PrepTest 23.Section 3.Game3.Q18 (https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-32-section-3-game-3/)

Questions like 18 always get me confused. I was able to narrow R down to 6 and 7 fine, but after that, I just didn’t know where to go. None of the other rules seemed immediately relevant, and then I started stressing out because I didn’t know where to go from there.

The way JY explained it made complete sense but it would have been a huge time sink for me. I.e. making the inference that if R goes into 7, then we remember our rule that S can’t go into 6 or 4, which means P & S must go into 1 and 3, which means T won’t be able to go before F or after R. As I am very new to logic games, interpreting or making all those inferences in my head in a short amount of time has been really hard for me. This did not come naturally to me and I was completely stuck -__-

Does anybody have advice for a question like this where, once you get to a certain point it becomes very open-ended (i.e. multiple slots open with no immediately obvious rule to jump to)? Is it really just trial and error?

I am aware that this is a relatively easy game but I am struggling with LG in general lol

Do schools take into account what school you went to for undergraduate when looking at your GPA. i.e. a 3.1 at Harvard vs a 3.8 at UGA? Is the LSAC calculator universally applicable?

Hi all,

I was wondering if anyone took yesterday's Sabbath observer test and if yes if anyone knows which RC was real

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I had a strategy for when to submit my applications but I'm kind of questioning it right now. So would love advice from anyone out there!

The situation: I just took December LSAT and it's my first official test. I was planning on submitting applications by mid-December so that they are received before the holiday break and would hopefully get faster/earlier decisions once the LSAT score comes through. However, I don't feel awful about my performance but also not great. I was PTing pretty consistently around 167 but I think my score is probably going to be closer to 165. I was hoping for a lucky break and it to swing a bit higher and be closer to 170 but I don't think that's the way it's going to go.

That said, at 164/165 I feel pretty good about safety schools and my middle-of-the-road target ones, but for any stretch schools I would probably need to be at least 167. So with that information, do y'all think I should wait on submitting any of my applications? Maybe I should submit now for safety/target, and wait until score comes back before submitting for stretch schools? Basically, I don't want to waste application money (or unnecessary rejection) if my score comes in at 164 and a school's 25th or median is 167. Just for context, my GPA is 3.85 so I should be ok on that side. Really going to hinge on the LSAT performance. Thoughts?

To whom should my recommenders address their LOR? I intend to use each of two LOR's for all schools. Thank you!

Hi! Need some advice what you think would be better? I’ve been studying for some time now so I’m not new to games and for the most part my games section score is usually between -2 and -5. I’m starting studying again now for Feb so I would like to set up a game plan. Thanks all!

Hey all!

First off I want to say how much 7sage has helped me in such a short time! I felt so much more confident walking out of the December test than I did in September. That being said, when should I submit my applications? Should I submit now so law schools can see my profile before the scores come back? Or, wait for the scores from December?

I'm just concerned schools will render a decision without looking at my December score.

Thanks!

Hey everyone!

I hope everyone is recovering from Saturdays test well... I feel so lost not studying!

I was wondering if anyone could tell me what the protocol is for issuing a complaint about a proctor and their assistant?! I wrote in Ontario, and my proctor and his assistant were so bad and so so disruptive... I'm so disappointed because I'm so worried that I couldn't focus on my second section (LR).

Basically what happened was the assistant walked out of the room during the test and somehow got locked out... and when the proctor tried to go let them back in, he couldn't. So there was a bunch of banging. If you imagine yourself trying to pull open or push open a door that is locked, multiple times, then thats exactly what happened during Saturdays test. I couldn't believe it... and I still can't!

Any and all help would be greatly appreciated :)

Just curious, did LSAC ever release December test score before their two weeks holiday?

Thanks.

Hi I just took the lsat on Saturday, I had also taken my first one last June. I'm wondering if others get as nervous as I do when first starting the test, and also blank out momentarily. Just feeling everyone scrambling to start the test, I have a hard time understanding the first few questions. I think it lasted the whole section honestly.. I finally eased into it more by the second section. I thought I wouldn't feel this way on my second try at this test. I had three LR sections, I'm not sure if it was because my first one was experimental or not but either way it really go to me.

The first time I took it the room was small and I was crammed against other test takers and could hear their pencils scribbling furiously...it was all really distracting. I also didn't know that those sitting next to me were working on different sections so I thought I was behind, I felt a heat inside my head and chest and my brain went numb, like I couldn't understand what I was reading at all. Later on I took the same ptest at home and performed much better, in total disbelief that I'd missed so many questions due to nerves. This time (Saturday) the room was much larger, I had a corner seat so at least no one sitting on one side, and knew the person next to me was working on different sections from me so it didn't matter when they turned pages...but still, I was very nervous starting out even though I've practiced taking deep breaths.

Also I feel I had had enough practice of logic games from 1-81 with the help of 7sage and been exposed to enough weird games to feel confident, but still ran into some games on this recent test that I didn't know how to set up effectively. Did this happen to anyone else?

Trying desperately to figure out which of my LR sections was experimental. Those of you who had only two LR sections: do you remember having a Justify question about how kids aren't going to grow up to be into literature b/c of the prevalence of T.V.?

What's the PT that was sequencing and out game. 4 in and 2 out. It was in one of the recent PTs

Do y'all get the same test for those who took the test this Monday? I'm sitting for Feb. Sabbath date.

Is there any real difference for translation of typically vs often? For example:

"Typically, winners of Nobel prize for science are not motivated at all by love of discovery."

"And unlike professional scientists, who are often motivated by economic necessity or a desire for fame, amateur scientists..."

I've been translating both as "some" but I'm sort of questioning if it's a stronger "most" or even "all"?

Does anyone know what the deal is for seating at CUNY Law? I've heard from some they were in smaller rooms with spacious desks while others were in large lecture halls with the tiny pull out desks-- not sure what to expect. Appreciate the input!! :)

For those of who've taken the exam a couple times, if you do worse on your subsequent tries... I'm still unclear how all that plays out, I understand law schools are able to see all your previous scores, but if your most recent ones are worse, do they look at the most recent scores to make a determination or do they look at your highest score?

So, I'm foolproofing LG and I am doing it by difficulty. So, I'm starting with simple ordering and am almost finished with that section. I feel like I'm getting better but that's not showing in timing and accuracy wise on the first attempt. So, when did you all who foolproof started doing better?

I just recently sat for the December test and want to take it again in February for good measure. The December test will be my first official LSAT. A lot of school's I am interested in have deadlines of March 1st, but I've heard that schools will hold an application if they see you're signed up for another test. I was just wondering if it works the same if you are signed up for a February test.

Hi All,

Interested in hearing the thoughts of my fellow 7-Sagers.

My LSAT journey has been a long learning process to say the least. My first attempt (a year ago) came after taking a worthless Kaplan prep course which had successfully convinced those of us enrolled in their course that all we needed to crush the LSAT was their three-month study plan. This was evidently false after I received my first attempt score (Dec. 2016). In hindsight, I should have cancelled.

Later, after some research into the more popular study techniques/guides I made my second attempt last June 2017 after studying the PowerScore Bibles and saw a significant increase in my score. I applied to a #50 school but was ultimately waitlist-denied.

However, it was nearly the end of my study for the June 2017 that I discovered the undisputed, most effective, most honest and realistic LSAT preparation company of all time... 7Sageeeee! Working through the CC and watching JY's explanations gave me the "ah-ha" moments I was longing for.

SO, last Saturday's Dec. 2 administration was my THIRD attempt at the LSAT. However, I don't feel like this attempt was within the score range I had hoped to be within (162-167).

With all of that said, should I roll with my score and get my applications in early? Should I cancel and retake in February? Or finally, should I keep score and make a FOURTH attempt in February? I'm not too thrilled about having that many reported attempts and also I am not happy about applying so late in the cycle but if it means scoring well within or over my ideal range and making myself a more competitive applicant, perhaps a fourth attempt is worth it..

All feedback is encouraged. Thanks!

Kyle

PS. Didn't intend for this to be a narrative lol Hopefully just provides some context. Maybe someone else has a similar story.

I took the September LSAT and decided to cancel and registered for the December one. I was scoring in the range of 165-168 before the December exam and felt pretty at ease. The night before the LSAT (Friday), I received news that my cousin had died. I still went to take the LSAT on Saturday morning, but I was filled with different emotions that day, so I can't really trust my hunch on how I did.

I know the scores won't be released until January, but I was wondering if I end up scoring below the range that I was scoring prior to the exam, should I write an LSAT Addendum?

Anyone down for a resume swap? I would like another pair of eyes to look at my resume. Any suggestions on what to cut would be much appreciated. I'm more that willing to edit yours in exchange. Send me a PM if interested.

Thanks!

Hi all, anyone interested in a personal statement swap? Especially interested in swapping with people who are applying to HYS and/or for public interest law. Thanks!

I took the December test this last Saturday, and my testing center was a complete nightmare. I won't go into the details, but to just kind of put things into perspective - I had the book on my lap, pencils between my thighs, curled up trying to take a test on a table that was the size of my palm. The door was making this consistent squeaking noise for the entire 5 hours (it was defective, wouldn't close so it squeaked). I lost my train of thought every other sentence so I had my fingers closing my ears for most of the test. To make matters worse, the proctor was laughing at the entire situation.

I feel like I know the answer to this question already, but I'm wondering if I should cancel or not...

I took the test in September, and did not do as great as I could have (149). After September, I was pting at 160-164 right up until the December test.

If I don't get my desired score/canceling, I'll be taking the test in February but applying for the next cycle.

Should I cancel my score? Would 3 scores look bad if I don't?

Help :(

Burn your LSAT materials.

You're done!

It feels real good!

Rituals are nice!

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Hey guys! Here's the official December LSAT Discussion Thread. Please keep all discussions of the December 2017 LSAT here!

Here's some ground rules, taken from my usual sticky:

We know that everyone will be excited to discuss what was on the Dec. '17 LSAT, but mentioning specifics about the test (e.g., "I got B for question 6" or "the 3rd LG was sequencing") can get both us and you in a lot of trouble with LSAC. Saying that the test was hard/easy without going into detail is okay, but anything more specific is not okay. LSAC monitors this forum.

If you're unsure what may be too specific, feel free to PM me with what you'd like to post.

The only exception is you can say which sections were real or experimental. For example, the LG with "flowers" was experimental. That's okay.

TL;DR: PLEASE don't talk specifics about December's LSAT!

Here's where you can see the current Real/Experimental Sections:

https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/13991/december-2017-lsat-real-experimental-sections-keywords

Have fun discussing!