Taking my first (and most likely not final haha) lsat in Feb which is less than a month away now. I've been having some trouble trying to finish sections under the time constraint. Most of it is me usually having a brain fart while reading and having to re-read over and over again as well as not fully understanding RC passages and having to underline things which takes up so much time. With BR and spending as much time as I can on each section I've been able to get in the 160-165 range but with the timer on I leave about a whole section blank because I'm not able to finish.

The exam is so close and I'm getting super worried and anxious :( I've been trying to take as many timed practice tests as possible but I'm not sure at this point it will help much. Any advice or suggestions?

Hi guys,

I'm a new 7Sager and this is my first post! I am tentatively aiming to take the November 2018 or January 2019 test, with an end goal of entering law school in fall of 2020 (I am a junior in college).

I just took my timed diagnostic LSAT last week (the June 2007 one) and scored a 162 (-3 LG, -4.5 LR, -7 RC). I was pretty happy with this score, apart from RC (I actually expected it to be my best section). My dream is to get to 175+ (ideally 180 but I know that's nearly impossible). I am wondering how people who have achieved this went about it- what was your diagnostic score and how long did you study for? With a 162 diagnostic do I have a shot at getting there?

I have not purchased a 7Sage course yet but am planning on it soon. I have already bought the LSAT Trainer book but haven't looked at it yet. Considering this, which course do people recommend I purchase? I am leaning towards Ultimate+ but money is tight.

Looking forward to getting to know you all, this community seems fantastic :)

Ok, so I got this MBT question wrong. I initially was going to go with AC D (the right choice) but was turned off from the second part of the answer. The whole thing reads:

"More money is spent on microwave food products that take three minutes or less to cook than on microwave food products that take longer to cook.

The bold I take issue with. I get the first part was referring to microwave popcorn, but do we know that everything else that is microwaved is cooked longer? It doesn't say that in the passage; it just says other microwavable foods when referring to the other half of the market. The only other reference to cook time mentioned is conventionally cooked popcorn.

I fell for C and stretched the word "volume" and linked it to "popularity", but A, B and E are flat wrong.

Thoughts on D?

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I've just been asked to do the Kira interview for Cornell. I was wondering if anyone here has done that interview and can give me some guidance as to how to prepare.

Also, are all applicants asked to do this? is it a good or bad sign?

Hey all! So I'm going through a bit of a nervous breakdown (the one I promised myself I wouldn't have until after February exam). Here's a little background story: I took a live Blueprint class from June - September while studying full time. I look the Sept LSAT and scored roughly 10 points lower than my average PT score and was devastated. I immediately signed up for the December exam and registered with 7sage the same day. I figured I would change my study routine and choose a different prep class since I wasn't too stoked about Blueprint. Unfortunately, I was incredibly burned out after the September exam, so I didn't make the efforts I intended to make. However, I still tried to study as much as I possibly could. I studied about 25-30 hours a week on average but mainly did practice exams and didn't use 7sage much. I took the December exam and did worse on that one than the September one. Embarrassing, I know. I signed up for February the same day I got my score and made a promise with myself to be open minded and stick to 7sage from now until Feb. I'm not working right now, so I am able to dedicate myself to a full time study schedule. I am ready to get started and hopefully score well the third time.. but I'm super overwhelmed now and need some suggestions/help/advice with the following:

For the people who are/were in my situation or anyone who can provide insight, how did you study in between exams? Right now, I am dedicating one week each to individual sections. I'm ending this week on Sunday with having finished the LG lessons/drills from here. I was doing so well and feeling confident up until today. My brain just crashed. All the games I was able to do yesterday under 8 minutes, I couldn't do today for the life of me. I think it's a mixture of burn out and I feel a bit confused from 7sage's methods and Blueprints. Blueprint does things a little differently, and I'm having a hard time merging what I already know and what I am learning together without getting confused. I am mainly confused about conditional statements and the overall setup on grouping games. Any advice on this would be greatly appreciated!

I haven't submitted any applications yet because I am waiting for my February score. I am hoping to score between 7-10 points higher than my September exam. Keep in mind I scored lower on my December exam. Am I being unrealistic in thinking I can make that type of jump next month? I have major test anxiety and my fight or flight needs to calm tf down. Still trying to work on that. However, am I making the wrong decision in waiting to submit apps until after I get my score?

I've been fool proofing LG and I'm noticing some improvement. However, I haven't BR'd any of my practice exams yet. The reason I haven't done that yet is because I feel like I don't have time to take my time and don't want to get used to taking longer than about a minute on questions. Am I being ridiculous?

Any advice is much appreciated! Thanks in advance, everyone. :)

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Decent improvement? Is there hope? Or is this too terrible for any hope? Ha. Wasn't much of a jump. Although I am glad it went up rather than down. I don't think I BR as well as I could/should. I find myself not knowing an answer and I say to myself fuck it I just don't know if it's right so move along. Finally got that PT following the CC out of the way. Now onto drills & FP!

So I'm currently debating between two wildly different ideas for my personal statement: one about the world of undergraduate moot court (I took the class for three years and it really solidified my desire to pursue law school) and another about a week long camping trip in the Grand Canyon where I had some near death experiences. Obviously, the first topic is way more directly relevant to law school, however I also feel that the second is unique and potentially more interesting. Any thoughts?

Hey folks... I keep thinking and re-thinking my decision here. My original goal was to take the December LSAT, get my apps in by mid-December so they could be reviewed ASAP in the new year. Well, life happened and here I am, January 11 and still working on finishing my PS.

I did better on the LSAT than I thought I would so that made me think I definitely should apply this year. But now that we're getting to be relatively late in the cycle, I'm thinking I'd be better positioned if I delay. I could of course still get apps out for this cycle and cross my fingers. I'm going to be very dependent on scholarship money though so I'm worried that it won't be enough to make this year work. The more I think about it, the more I'm leaning toward delaying, whether or not I apply this cycle. I ended up with a really good LSAT (168), but I think if I kept studying and took it again like in September, I could likely break 170. Is that worth pushing school back a year? Also I'm non-trad, 33 years old. So while I'm already wayyyy past the usual age of law school students, I'm hesitant to push it back another year. But I guess whether you're 37 or 38 at graduation is tomato-tomahto. Yeah?

Does anyone have experience in re-applying? Do many schools look down on applying twice in a row? If I turn down an acceptance for this year and re-apply, will I be any more likely to get dinged or WL'd?

Poll attached with the options I'm considering.

The topic is roughly: how I've spent half of my life in the US and half in Asia. I had different "personas" in each place, and I made some choices that I regret that were made based off of those personas. The essay ends with me talking about how I can now be me regardless of context.

I've written a couple rough drafts, and I'm fairly pleased with the essay.

I'm not completely sure if it addresses diversity though.

What does you guys think?

Thanks in advance

Is it true that the June LSAT has the most unforgiving curve?

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I watched a explanation video but I still have few questions about this game. I have questions for #9 and #10.

For #9, I was choosing between A and B

For #10, I was choosing between C and E

Can somebody explain to me why some of the answer choices violate the rule? Most answer choice were incorrect because it leads to a violation of the RF block. But if you place it right, you can also avoid the RF block.

For example, #9 A. 1 on both J and 4 on F and H. I

I placed it like this below:

J F H R

J F R H

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-46-section-4-game-2/

Is it just me, or is the LSAC webpage a pain to navigate? I can't for the life of me find how to get LOR's submitted. I read somewhere on here that you can email a link to the person you want to write it. I have had no luck finding said link...

Did anyone else get an invitation to a YLS video webinar? Unfortunately I did not see the email invite until after the fact because it went to my spam folder (whyy would that happen?! It’s YLS!!)

But anyways, I’m curious as to what I missed out on.

Best!

:)

Hoping to swap D.S.'s or get some feedback

Message me if you can

Thanks

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Hi,

I've seen many posts about skipping and pacing strategy, especially those where ppl say they skip and fix their mistakes in the last 10 min in any LR section. But I've also heard some ppl only give themselves 30 min per section to mimic the test day anxiety.

But should I rather give myself full 35 min, instead of 30min, if I am trying to practice the skipping and fixing strategy?

What do you guys think?

Do you restrict BR to only the LR sections? Or BR more, or all?

Hey all,

Long time lurker here. Now that I am almost done with apps, I figured that it would be nice to give back to the community for once.

So, my background:

Took the LSAT in September, got a score in the mid 160s

Was left with only Preptest 82 and Preptest C2 for my December LSAT

After I received my September scores, I was scared - I mean, I have literally used pretty much every single preptest (except for those two mentioned and yes, I managed to get my hands on the so called unreleased ones as well), and I was afraid that I wouldn't be able to have the necessary practice for the December LSAT.

Guess what? It has been said many times before, but I will say it again - reusing preptests works.

The difference between how I prepped my September LSAT and the December LSAT was that I spent the bulk of my time writing explanations. This might not work for you, but it worked for me - I began to see patterns and if you can explain something in your own words, chances are good that you would know how to tackle something similar to it.

Anyways, on to the day itself. I am not a good standardized test taker, and I freaked out for the logic games section as I was unsure of how to proceed with the first logic game. That said, I looked at it for 2 minutes and I moved on. Probably saved me as I went back later and it was actually a really simple game. Finished the section with 5 minutes remaining. I ran out of time for the logic games section on the September LSAT, and a large part of that was down to NOT SKIPPING GAMES when it is time to move on. So, I would say that skipping is key, and I know that that is something that JY says in his logic games videos a lot, but please, do yourself a favor - skip when necessary!

Phew, long post, but if you made it this far, thanks for hearing me out. I will answer questions on this thread if you guys have any, and for those of you taking the LSAT, good luck and remember to take out the trash (LSAT, I am looking at you)!

LSAT Garbage Man

June'18 Study Group | Blind Review PT 46 | Tuesday, Jan 23rd | 7:30 pm EST

After a nice 2-week break to address some weaknesses, we will return on the 23rd for another awesome BR group call!

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I hope you're ready or gearing up to start PTing for the June 2018 LSAT. Join us this Tuesday if you are finished with the CC.

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For everyone: take the PT under timed conditions; BR as you are able on your own; then join us for all or part of the call—everyone is welcome.

Note: For the purposes of the call, we like to check our group blind review score together at the very end of the call :) So at least don't say ... "No guys, really, it's D, I checked it.” KEEP THE CORRECT ANSWER TO YOURSELF. Win the argument with your reasoning.

These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).

The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via GoToMeeting and intellectually slaughter each test.

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Hi all!

So I've been drilling LG for a while now and I figured I would start a thread where people can post little 'tricks' or things the LSAT commonly puts on LG that you can look out for/practice getting into the habit of. This is probably more for people who have been struggling with LG like I have~

Oftentimes I missed these inferences or tricks, or just didn't even think to look out for them, but with practice, time and noticing the patterns, I have been getting a lot better!! I had a lot more written down but I lost the sheet lol so hopefully I can add more when I find it.

Here are some of the things I've written down:

• When making inferences in in/out games, take note of the inferences that can be made from distributions as well, not just the stated rules; i.e. the gemstone game (https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-33-section-4-game-3/) where it says 6 in, 4 out; you are able to make a lot of inferences from this later on in the game

• Check to see if an introduced rule would not only trigger in-game inferences but would trigger a new, unspoken rule (i.e. in the gemstone game, 2S -> 1R paired with the distribution allows us to trigger a new rule 2S -> 3T)

• Always look for not both & or rules in in/out games, makes inferences a lot easier

• In sequencing games, block sequences i.e. [MKM] will likely only have a few places they can safely go, and will often trigger an inference or the ability to split the game board up so look out for how they will affect your setup

Some of the game setups I have come across often are:

• Circular (misc)

• Sequencing or double layered or triple layered sequencing

• In/out game

• In/out game with categories (i.e. selecting 'in' from multiple groups)

• Chart games (often a good setup for when the game pieces can choose multiple variables i.e. the showroom & cars game https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-35-section-3-game-2/)

• Grouping games

Please share things you have noticed or would find helpful for others!! :)

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So working full time and not being able to study as much as I want is not only getting to me physically (I'm tired all the time) but emotionally - I find myself losing momentum during the week because work takes over and I'm slowly feeling like my law school dreams are impossible. I really want to go to a T14- preferably a T-7 but this process seems so impossible, sometimes I feel like giving up and just trying to get into SMU down the road (which is not a bad school just not what I envision for my journey). I'm really trying not to give up here but it's getting harder and harder :(

Just got an email from WUSTL requesting a Skype interview. Any advice? My interview is this Friday the 12th.