This is a genuine question - Is it bad that I am not having to map out any of these types of questions? I have found these to be very intuitive, but I'm worried I'll screw myself in the long run if I'm not mapping these out like J.Y.
I felt like a damn child drawing the set circles (in different colors sob) from the fundamentals part of the course...but I got it right on the first try! This was a difficult one for sure.
For people who are having a hard time with this overcomplicated video explanation, try and solve the question first before going into the video walk through. I've been doing this and found I understand the questions when I attempt them first, and when I watch the explanation after it honestly confuses me more when I wasn't even confused in the first place.
I always look at the question before starting the video and try to find an answer. I started with D and then switched to B. That was so much, and I don't even really understand how B is wrong, but I do understand why D is right.
If you were confused like I was, thinking about it like this might help:
independent stores do not sell gerbils
if a store sells fish but not birds, they sell gerbils
inference: if an independent store sells fish, they also have to sell birds (because if not they would have to sell gerbils, which we know they don't do)
Answer choice D) is the inference stated above in slightly different wording. No independent stores sells fish but not birds. Why? Because if they sold fish but not birds, they would sell gerbils. Why is that a problem? Because no independent store sells gerbils. An independent store selling fish but not birds would violate the conditional logic rules set out in the stimulus.
I'm actually so hyped, because I took this test after studying for a few days and couldn't comprehend this question in the slightest. I answered this question before looking at the video, mapped it all out and got the right answer. There is hope!
For reference there were only 2 questions on that test that I couldn't understand so it feels pretty great to get this right. Before watching the foundations, I remember looking at this question for like a full hour.
Based on the logic given in the stimulus, could you conclude that no independently owned pet stores sell fish? because where he gets us to in the explanation of the correct answer is:
indie --> /fish or birds
i'm forgetting my foundations, does that mean if indie --> /fish ?
E is wrong because you could be an ind store and still sell NO birds while selling no tropical fish. The wording in E makes it so that you MUST sell birds.
I was doing well until I saw the "No" condition. Completely forgot what group it went into so I chose the "trap" answer of B. Looking over it again and writing it out in Lawgic knowing that the word "no" is a group 4 indicator makes it much clearer!
Do you guys feel like you'll have enough time to think and use lawgic on the exam? I can't imagine it.
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I hope I dont get a question like this on the LSAT haha
This is a genuine question - Is it bad that I am not having to map out any of these types of questions? I have found these to be very intuitive, but I'm worried I'll screw myself in the long run if I'm not mapping these out like J.Y.
I felt like a damn child drawing the set circles (in different colors sob) from the fundamentals part of the course...but I got it right on the first try! This was a difficult one for sure.
nah this one confused me so badly. Still dont really get how its not B.
For this type of questions: remember to find contrapositive of the answer choice that might be right
For people who are having a hard time with this overcomplicated video explanation, try and solve the question first before going into the video walk through. I've been doing this and found I understand the questions when I attempt them first, and when I watch the explanation after it honestly confuses me more when I wasn't even confused in the first place.
HIDEOUS.
wthelly
mega logic chain in the stimulus AND THEN the right answer is a contrapositive??? 😢
This was tough in a fun kind of way with all those conditionals, gotta practice these kinds of complicated questions to get my time down though.
I got this correct, I am so happy!!!
yeah bro this is crazy
ts lowkey hurt my brain
im cooked
I always look at the question before starting the video and try to find an answer. I started with D and then switched to B. That was so much, and I don't even really understand how B is wrong, but I do understand why D is right.
that was crazy
damn this is a lot bro
Can anybody give me a piece of advice how to shorten time for like this question?
If you were confused like I was, thinking about it like this might help:
independent stores do not sell gerbils
if a store sells fish but not birds, they sell gerbils
inference: if an independent store sells fish, they also have to sell birds (because if not they would have to sell gerbils, which we know they don't do)
Answer choice D) is the inference stated above in slightly different wording. No independent stores sells fish but not birds. Why? Because if they sold fish but not birds, they would sell gerbils. Why is that a problem? Because no independent store sells gerbils. An independent store selling fish but not birds would violate the conditional logic rules set out in the stimulus.
Are we going to be shown examples of how to handle these questions under limited time?
I'm actually so hyped, because I took this test after studying for a few days and couldn't comprehend this question in the slightest. I answered this question before looking at the video, mapped it all out and got the right answer. There is hope!
For reference there were only 2 questions on that test that I couldn't understand so it feels pretty great to get this right. Before watching the foundations, I remember looking at this question for like a full hour.
Based on the logic given in the stimulus, could you conclude that no independently owned pet stores sell fish? because where he gets us to in the explanation of the correct answer is:
indie --> /fish or birds
i'm forgetting my foundations, does that mean if indie --> /fish ?
E is wrong because you could be an ind store and still sell NO birds while selling no tropical fish. The wording in E makes it so that you MUST sell birds.
I was doing well until I saw the "No" condition. Completely forgot what group it went into so I chose the "trap" answer of B. Looking over it again and writing it out in Lawgic knowing that the word "no" is a group 4 indicator makes it much clearer!
Do you guys feel like you'll have enough time to think and use lawgic on the exam? I can't imagine it.