I got it right on a feeling. Blind review I mapped it and it made sense. same thing as the last question. What brings me confusion on both is basically not mapping the contrapositive. It is so hard for me to see the right answer unless I see
I should have gotten this right. Got it on the blind review. I felt it could have gone either way that you had to "guess" if Pat was a part of the club or not. I chose the wrong one on the 50/50 but after the explanation I should never have thought he could have been in the club.
How do you know when to infer and when not to infer?
I took the description of Pat for face value and did not infer that they were a member of VideoKing because the stimulus doesn't tell us they are a member of VideoKing.
But sometimes, our lessons tell us not to infer/assume. Are there any guidelines we can follow?
@cworth1512 It's not about making inferences, but rather distinguishing what conclusions are formed by the stimulus. The passage specifies there are only two possible methods for MEMBERS to get the coupon. Pat doesn't fit either of the stated criteria for his coupon retrieval, which disqualifies himself from membership.
I read the stimuli 10 hundred times. I started questioning the first statement, "can now receive a special discount". It didn't say only members of the club would receive and that's how I got to D. Also bump Pat for finding a loophole.
Based on this question and the one before, i should start reading the entire stimulus first before trying to translate anything lol. I think my overall comprehension of the passage wouldve been much clearer had i done that. Thus, helping me make more accurate translations. The explanation was so simple imo, but i jumped to conclusions that werent even relevant. fahhh
@mahi0615 I feel the same way it doesnt really help me to create a map. Just reading the stimulus carefully and making sure I understand what it says deliberately has been most effective.
@mahi0615 Right, don't take any kind of visual that appears in an explanation as a suggestion that you should solve it the same or that you're "supposed" to draw something out. It's purely for the purpose of explanation, because some students have a hard time understanding conditional statements from a purely verbal explanation.
On a timed exam, high scorers are diagramming AT MOST 1 or 2 questions on a section.
Speaking of grammar parsing, and therefore being the least popular guy at the party, the first sentence says member CAN receive a coupon. My mind interpreted that to also mean that non-members DON'T receive the coupon. I was about to select the correct answer when the thought came rushing into my head and crushed my dreams...fucking Pat..anywho, is CAN interchangeable with MAY? Did my brain make CAN too heavy of a lift by thinking CAN is interchangeable with ONLY? Just want to make sure because if I start off with the confidence that CAN=MAY, I get this question right.
@ArthurWasilewski reading this question lit a lightbulb because I was thinking the same thing. So, if members of the club can receive coupons, other non-members can receive it as well. I may be wrong but receiving a coupon is a sufficient condition, it guarantees that only the superset of members can redeem it at only those 2 locations. But since pat, who received a coupon, cannot redeem it at the only 2 stores that members can, then we can infer that Pat is one of the non-members that CAN receive a coupon. idk if that helps, but writing this out did help me.
@rmuriel66 Yes, that kind of sounds how this logic was structured. I should have known better because in my previous career, operators like can, must, shall, will, may--they all had very specific meanings in understanding policy and, for the life of me, I simply forgot all of those meanings!
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LMAO. this question is hilarious wow
I got it right on a feeling. Blind review I mapped it and it made sense. same thing as the last question. What brings me confusion on both is basically not mapping the contrapositive. It is so hard for me to see the right answer unless I see
club->10+movies->last location
contrapositive
/last location->/10+movies->/club
This one felt easy to me, though I have struggled a lot more with lower-difficulty questions
Oh so Pat n i got problems
I assumed pat was in the clurb...smh
Classic Pat moment
fr
oh this was nasty
@coconut reallllllllll funky
I should have gotten this right. Got it on the blind review. I felt it could have gone either way that you had to "guess" if Pat was a part of the club or not. I chose the wrong one on the 50/50 but after the explanation I should never have thought he could have been in the club.
bruhh cmon pat, messing up my flow. i did everything right until pat came in doing things that didnt follow the rules. great learning lesson
How I be feelin when I get these max difficulty questions right without blind review on time
@SalmaanEjaz
@ManusWeber got me way too confident for this test LMFAO
How do you know when to infer and when not to infer?
I took the description of Pat for face value and did not infer that they were a member of VideoKing because the stimulus doesn't tell us they are a member of VideoKing.
But sometimes, our lessons tell us not to infer/assume. Are there any guidelines we can follow?
@cworth1512 It's not about making inferences, but rather distinguishing what conclusions are formed by the stimulus. The passage specifies there are only two possible methods for MEMBERS to get the coupon. Pat doesn't fit either of the stated criteria for his coupon retrieval, which disqualifies himself from membership.
I read the stimuli 10 hundred times. I started questioning the first statement, "can now receive a special discount". It didn't say only members of the club would receive and that's how I got to D. Also bump Pat for finding a loophole.
Everyone is talking about Pat, but no one is talking about how bad of a deal the VideoKing Frequent Viewers club is.
I was torn between two, didn't get it on the first, but got it right on Blind review.
pat got me smh
Based on this question and the one before, i should start reading the entire stimulus first before trying to translate anything lol. I think my overall comprehension of the passage wouldve been much clearer had i done that. Thus, helping me make more accurate translations. The explanation was so simple imo, but i jumped to conclusions that werent even relevant. fahhh
loved the F bombs in this vid lmaooo
sorry mapping and conditionals is a no for me! I just read the stimulus and got it right away. I think sometimes the chaining confuses you even more!
@mahi0615 I feel the same way it doesnt really help me to create a map. Just reading the stimulus carefully and making sure I understand what it says deliberately has been most effective.
@AdamPrice0311 Agreed. I feel like I use it when the language is really convoluted otherwise, I don't need to use it for these types of questions.
@mahi0615 Right, don't take any kind of visual that appears in an explanation as a suggestion that you should solve it the same or that you're "supposed" to draw something out. It's purely for the purpose of explanation, because some students have a hard time understanding conditional statements from a purely verbal explanation.
On a timed exam, high scorers are diagramming AT MOST 1 or 2 questions on a section.
@Kevin_Lin agreed.
I love that for Pat, not you got a coupon anyway
I over thought the question and got it wrong.
Got it right but damn Who tf are you Pat to just walk all over the rules and just YOINK the coupon like that
Speaking of grammar parsing, and therefore being the least popular guy at the party, the first sentence says member CAN receive a coupon. My mind interpreted that to also mean that non-members DON'T receive the coupon. I was about to select the correct answer when the thought came rushing into my head and crushed my dreams...fucking Pat..anywho, is CAN interchangeable with MAY? Did my brain make CAN too heavy of a lift by thinking CAN is interchangeable with ONLY? Just want to make sure because if I start off with the confidence that CAN=MAY, I get this question right.
@ArthurWasilewski reading this question lit a lightbulb because I was thinking the same thing. So, if members of the club can receive coupons, other non-members can receive it as well. I may be wrong but receiving a coupon is a sufficient condition, it guarantees that only the superset of members can redeem it at only those 2 locations. But since pat, who received a coupon, cannot redeem it at the only 2 stores that members can, then we can infer that Pat is one of the non-members that CAN receive a coupon. idk if that helps, but writing this out did help me.
@rmuriel66 Yes, that kind of sounds how this logic was structured. I should have known better because in my previous career, operators like can, must, shall, will, may--they all had very specific meanings in understanding policy and, for the life of me, I simply forgot all of those meanings!
Four minutes over but I got it :,)
just a horrible question
This one actually felt like a riddle wdym pat just simply wasn't a member and why didn't I think of that?