First test, with 0-10 hours total of studying scored, 136, didn't even do a full prep test.. I know I know..

Taking in November again and studying 2-3 hours every weekday, plus practice tests every weekend.

Is 15-20 points jump plausible?

I was wondering if i was doing a timed section/full test if whether it makes sense to bubble now, given the changes in Fall 2019.

If am i taking in the digital era and its a simple click, should i just circle my selection now and tally it up afterward (post blind-review circle).

It is always preached to mimic test-day like conditions and i think this new way of just circling is better than bubbling.

I think I have a problem accessing videos. Does anyone else have this problem at the moment?

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Hello

I wanted to know if anyone has been granted accommodation (extra time) by just going to the doctor your physician refer you too. Meaning that would be the only proof the person has. I do suffer from anxiety (plus other things) every time I take a test no matter how much I try to calm myself and not think about it. I noticed lsac has a list of the things that would help for the approval of accommodation. But I never requested extra time on my exams in grade school or college. I took the ACT and SAT such a long time ago but I went to a community college so never really cared about my score.Can Someone guide me?

I already have two academic letters but I am trying to decide who I should ask for a third letter. Since I have been out of school for a couple years, should I ask from a law-related internship supervisor or from a non law-related work colleague? In comparison to the semester long internship that took place three years ago, I have worked with this colleague on two major projects over the past two years. I call him a colleague because he has never been my direct supervisor but still a senior staff. My dilemma is that I did a lot of policy writing and advocacy work, which I think matter more to law schools than the quantatitive and managerial work I did for my job. However, my job is obviously a lot more recent than the internship. Would it look bad on me if I have been working for the same job for the past 2.5 years but don’t get a recommendation from work? Any help will be greatly appreciated! Thank you!

Hey guys, so doing preptests, I've noticed for vast majority, the games 1 and 2 are the easier ones and games 3 and 4 the harder ones.

From what I've seen, the 1st game is usually a 1-level, the 2nd game generally 2-level, game 3 being 3-level or 4-level or 5-level (mostly 4-level), and game 4 being 4- or 5- level difficulty (mostly 5-level).

Sometimes there's an exchange in the level of difficulty between games 3 and 4 as well, it seems.

Is this trend generally true? For those of you who have taken real, actual LSAT recently, would you say this is pretty accurate?

If this is still true for recent tests, I want to make sure I can try to quickly knock out the first 2 games, so I can focus on games 3 and 4. I don't want to make the mistake of skipping around (and wasting time) trying to figure out which games are easier and which are the hard ones during the real test.

Thanks!

I am using a logic game practice book from kaplan that was given to me by someone else and i noticed that during one of my drills that i got an answer wrong on a question where it makes you "remake the game rules" ex. m-s is now s-m and i got the answer wrong. When looking at the answer explaination it makes a suggestion to skip this question bc it can be more time consuming and the time could be used somewhere else. What you do believe about this statement?

My follow up question would be, i believe i read that you should answer every question and not leave any blank bc only correct answers count for your score. I was taking a practice test and ran out of time on the section so i did not finish the section. I was wondering if i know for some reason i am 5 minutes from the section ending if it would be more beneficial to have the questions answered than not?

#helpfeelingclueless

UPenn is doing an open house at a law firm in NYC today and I was wondering if office attire is recommended, for the reason the location is a law firm. I know the answer is probably going to lean towards yes. What do you guys think?

Hi all,

I've posted about my RC struggles a few times now so I'm few several of you are familiar with my predicament. I have very strong scores in LG and LR, but my RC score is average at best. About -10 give or take on timed sections. I guess that's average because that down 4 sections would be about a 150...but I'm not sure of the actual average RC score.

I've tried all of the methods available to me. I've practiced, practiced, and practiced some more and with no progress. In fact, a few times I've thought that I've sort of figured it out with a -3/-4 section only to find out I was still in the -9/-11 range. That's the most frustrating thing of all.

Obviously, retaining every detail of the passage is impossible. I just seem to fall prey to trap answers left and right in RC. It demands a superb short term memory and I exercise that in games and LR...I just don't know why it doesn't translate to RC. Has anyone else faced this sort of problem? How did you 'figure it out'?

My two biggest problems are definitely falling prey to trap answers and having to look back at the passage when it shouldn't be necessary which slows me down. Because of this, I usually end up not reading the last two passages very well. Ironically, my scores on the last two passages are not any worse than on the first two when I put more time in...just another maddening piece of information.

I don't know if I need an entire RC makeover or what...but I'm just practicing and feel like I'm getting no where.

Any tricks or tips from people who were in my situation would be greatly appreciated. Again, 170+ range scores in LG and LR, 150 range score in RC.

i've noticed that when I print PT's from 7sage, the font is smaller than the PT's in the LSAC 10 Test books.

Did anyone else experience a similar thing?

I've had to experiment enlarging the print (to like 110%) in an effort to try to match the font size of the LSAC 10 test book PT's.

Is this just something wrong with my print settings?

Thanks.

I know that applying in Feb as opposed to November decreases one's chances of getting accepted, but does this affect the amount of scholarship money one might get? For example, lets say someone that was accepted is offered 60k, could that person have been offered more if they applied sooner? Is there like a certain amount of funds schools can give out that is given out on a rolling basis? Thanks :)

Hi all!

I wanted to reach out and ask if any students scoring in the 150's need tutoring.

I started out at a 138 and am now scoring in the mid 160's with the following stats: -3-6 LR, -3-6 RC, and -0-4 LG.

During blind review, I'm consistently scoring in the 170's: -0-2 LR, -0-1 RC, and -0 LG.

I can meet Tuesdays from 5:30-6:30 pm PST, Thursdays 5:30-6:30 pm PST, and on Saturdays from 2-6 pm PST.

I'm happy to tutor for free (Full disclosure: This would be my first time tutoring people for LSAT).

I have been attending the study group calls since June and I've gotten good feedback about my contribution.

Please feel free to message me and we can coordinate schedules. :)

Hi,

I took my first lsat in September and did not reach my goal score. I am writing my second lsat on November 17, and would like to increase my score by approx. 10 points. Since I am retaking the lsat, I have already done self-studying by reading books and doing drills, so I am familiar with most of the basic concepts/strategies. My score seems to be stuck at this point, so I don’t think self-studying by just reading and doing practice questions/tests will help me reach my target score. This is why I am interested in purchasing a 7sage course, maybe the starter passage, to assist me with studying for retaking the lsat. My question is, if I purchase a course with 7sage, what would an effective 1 month study schedule look like? Considering that I have already done the basics while i self-studied for my first LSAT (familiarizing myself with basic strategies, doing drills, few practice tests).

I remember a few people missed the Sept test so if you want to take November you can register for it until midnight tonight. I believe LSAC doesn't give extensions. Good luck.

If anyone has the time & ability to give me some insight/perspective/advice, I would truly so appreciate it!!!

Here is my situation: I graduated in May, planned to take one gap year, took the LSAT in September, and am now recognizing that I need far more time to study for the LSAT if I want to have a legitimate shot at my goal schools. I would like to attend a T14, so I am determined to score in the 170s. I was BRing around this score (but..my score would fluctuate quite a bit). Thus, I was not too surprised when I scored a 163 on the September test.

Basically, I am certain that if I took more time, I could score much higher, which would give me a good shot at the schools I am hoping to get into. So (partly since I am 21 and am personally in no urgent rush to start law school as soon as possible) I want to just take the time to study more for the LSAT and wait another year to apply to schools. However, my parents are very against this, and they think that November should be my last shot, and whatever score I get..that's the score I get. They honestly do not have many reasons for this, aside from just wanting me to get started with law school and not take any more time than necessary. I do not think they fully grasp the significance of everything from the LSAT score to the ranking of the law school one attends, but they are also not particularly amenable to me trying to explain it to them (they are both attorneys themselves, but honestly I do not think their experience was the same as it is today).

Has anyone has walked a road similar to this one before? Or anyone have any insight on how I should go about this? I am keenly aware that this is a highly personal situation that is very specific to my life, but I also believe that many law school applicants have had to have gone through this before, and I would really love to hear some perspectives on the matter. Do you have any advice on how I should go about this with my parents? Thanks in advance to anyone who can help!!

I am super perplexed on where to go from here, my goal admission is for the 2019 Fall Cycle. After a year of studying and Pt'ing in the Low 160's, I finally bulked up the courage to take the September LSAT after a debacle of a December 2017 score and fell 8 points shorter of my avg. at a 152 and hold a 3.6 GPA. I went -8 on RC (normally -1/-2, the first passage did me over), -8/-13 on LR, and -11 on LG (struggled to concentrate here as the guy next to me was being removed from the LSAT Testing Center). I foolproofed LG 1-20 and PT'ed 56-75 using other sections from 1-20 as my fifth. I went through Kaplan worst decision ever and then moved over to 7Sage for the past 9 months. I am a full time elementary school teacher and know I can get into most of my desired schools with a potential 75-80% scholarship if I hit a 161 and some full rides. I just truly don't know what would be a good starting point to pick back up and if even bumping up a score by 8 points by November is even possible. I am really stuck and don't know if to roll with the punches and see how ED apps go or to retake and post-pone applications for a few months. I am petrified that my score would fluctuate again putting me in worse shoes than I already am. HELP :D

https://www.usnews.com/education/blogs/law-admissions-lowdown/articles/2017-08-28/6-tips-to-find-lgbtq-friendly-law-schools

Lots of useful links within!!

I know this has probably been covered many times in the past, so I apologize for any repetition. I've been focused on fool-proofing logic games from tests 1-35, for a little while now. Logic games is my weakest section (averaging -11, compared with a -2 in LR and a -4 in RC), so I decided to double down on logic games for a little while. I've been improving, with a range of -1 to -11, but mostly in the -5 to -7 range. I'm wondering how much I should be beating myself up for struggling with the incredibly "weird" games, such as game 4 from PT 11 (I shouted some expletives out loud after reading the rules). As long as I'm doing well on the "standard" games, should I not worry too much? My understanding is that save for a few occasional exceptions, most of the modern logic games are pretty "standard".

If I can trouble people with another brief question, how many logic games sections did you have to fool-proof before things really "clicked" for you?

Thank you all in advance for the help!

Hello,

I started the core curriculum in August (the busiest time of year for my job), and I've had to play a lot of catch up or reset my study schedule from taking a week off a couple of times here and there. I was on a good pace and understanding the curriculum pretty well up until we got to validity through finishing the core curriculum for arguments. I'm not sure where I messed up to begin with. I read around advice from others about leaving problem sets available throughout the curriculum, especially if I was understanding it so I had something to come back to after I began doing PTs that indicated maybe I needed more work in that area.

Things I know I haven't done but need to do (memorize = I know they need to become intuitive):

I just stopped on the Quiz on Drawing Valid Conclusions that closes up on validity and everything that I just did related to valid and invalid argument forms. Mostly because I am just lost.

With the announcement of the transition to the computer LSAT for the July 2019 test and officially by September 2019. I am feeling the pressure of a June 2019 test. Otherwise, I've wasted my money on 7sage, and my time on studying in a way that will only be helpful to me if I have a paper test (especially after reviewing the thread on this matter).

I want to just get through the CC so I can come back to what I need to work on, but now I feel like I'm just getting more lost but starting over now seems like I'll never be ready by June 2019. I guess I just don't know how to approach my studying anymore with where I am at, and what is to come with the paper LSAT. Any advice, uplifting comments, etc. would be appreciated.

Hi

I wanted to know if any of you have tried or currently studying using 7sage plus another source such as Khan, tutors, books etc....

Has anybody tried Khan Academy prep?

Thank you!

Hey friends. I firmly agree with the 7Sage logic that completing PTs under test like conditions lessens anxiety because the process becomes familiar over time. The thought of taking 30+ PTs on paper only to write the formal exam using an unfamiliar digital system makes my palms start to sweat. Since the LSAT will be administered only in digital form from Sep 2019 onwards, will we have a chance to complete practice tests using the interface or an app that mimicks it?

Hey y'all. This is not just a ploy for "atta girl". But feeling a little isolated in my study world. And a little freaked out for November test. I took my first test almost 2 years ago, finished college, started studying regularly last fall, but got sidetracked by getting married. Now 6 weeks out I have the time to devote like I wanted after balancing studying and life all summer. Discouraged with not making much progress on timed sections, drilling and BR'ing. So, diving into the 7sage community for thoughts/advice and hopefully I'm not the only one in this boat!

November or bust!

Hi,

So when i drill 1-2 sections at a time on older practice tests from 40-51, i average 0-3 wrong per section but on full PT i get -5 to -7 wrong per section? Has this ever happened to anyone? I feel like giving up sometimes.

I need to know the secrets of the “I can get a 180 while I’m a prisoner of a Chinese re-education camp suffering from dysintery, completely dehydrated, freezing, and without one arm” people. Some of you diagnostic’d at 172. lawd Jesus. I need these insights.