I just had a very poor performance on a PT. I missed 3/4 LR questions because I did not know them no excuses. BUT I missed another 7!!! Because I misread something in the stimulus or did not correctly read it. How should I interpret this? I am at a point where I feel that I could go perfect majority of the time because I truly do know the test, however this PT score hurts. What should I do here?

PayPal has a feature called Bill Me Later where you can pay with credit, and as long as the $ is paid within 6 months, no interest is charged. The ability to pay over the course of 6 months would really help a lot of students who'd rather not have to pay everything all at once. Cambridge LSAT accepts PayPal and and I was wondering why 7sage doesn't. I think this added feature would help attract even more students. Would it be possible to add PayPal as a payment method?

Just wondering why that is, if that is the case?? I mean they still are administered official LSATs why not weigh them equally to tests administered in other months...

Hey Everyone!

Just out of curiosity (I've already decided to withdraw from the December test), do schools seldom admit students who do not fall within their "25%, 50%, and 75%" LSAT/GPA numbers?

A friend of mine graduated from USC, and mentioned that he knows two people who were accepted with LSAT scores that were about 5 points below the "25%" number. I'm not sure if he was referring to USC law, but either way, how common is something like this?

I know that my GPA falls within the "75%" for the vast majority of schools, but my LSAT is lacking. Regardless of where I apply, I am aiming for a 165+, for the purpose of receiving a decent scholarship.

How often do you guys review your stack of questions? My stack of questions is getting quite big now. I’ve got about 160 of them and I’m working on Pseudo Sufficient Assumption Questions. I reckon my stack will only get much bigger as I move along in the course.

Reviewing these questions that you didn’t get right, certainly helps to reinforce correct reasoning skills obviously for questions you got wrong or got right but weren’t 100% sure.

The problem is the bigger your stack gets, the longer it takes to review. (It took a little over an hour for me to review all 160 of them. I reckon it’s gonna take quite awhile to review all of these questions once I’m able to move onto doing PT’s)

Also, inevitably you end up memorizing the correct answer choices. Any thoughts?

This is a necessary assumption question. I correctly identified what is the premise ( aesthic value --> possible for at least two readers to agree on the interpretation) and the conclusion ( objective evaluation of a poem is possible -> popular belief is false). I realized the gap immediately but still had an issue with the correct answer.

I see how the contrapositive of (D) would make it necessary for the conclusion but at first glance I thought it was a possible mistaken reversal. I assumed it would be aesthic value -> objective evaluation. Can someone please explain how to better approach NA questions when they play on conditional logic and a possible rule of thumb. Perhaps a better illustration of the conditional logic chain would help in absolute terms (ex. A -> B -> C etc.) Thanks!

I have been "just about to start" my LSAT prep for way too long now. I am a 2015 graduate with a full-time paralegal job and I first intended to study during college and take the June 2015. Bought Blueprint and never used it (senior thesis was too time consuming). Blueprint expired and I didn't renew. Then, December was the goal, but I didn't start prep and decided February would be better. I still haven't started and I'm worried that now I should take June, but I don't want to keep this cycle going. When I get home from work and my 1.5hr commute each day, I just don't feel motivated to study.

Part of what's holding me back is that I bought Blueprint and didn't use it, so I'm afraid of buying another course now and then having the same thing happen. My diagnostic was 153, with -16 LG, -8 RC and -5/6 LR. It is obvious that LG needs the most work. I feel comfortable with the type of thinking that LR and RC require, and I honestly feel that PTs will really help me in those areas, but the fact of the matter is, I have no LG competency right now, and in order to make PTs worth my time (and to avoid wasting them), I need to learn how to do LGs. I would like to score above 165.

I'm left with the question of whether I really need to spend money on a course (if I do, I think it will be 7Sage), or if the PowerScore Logic Games Bible can teach me what I need to know to start doing PTs. If I do 7Sage, is the Ultimate really necessary? Maybe a few meetings with a tutor would do it? Honestly, I'm lost, and some guidance would be very helpful.

Hey all,

I was wondering what is the best way to warm up before an 8:30 AM test?

Dear fellow 7sagers,

The upcoming test will be my third and so last LSAT I'll be taking before I apply to law schools.

But there is a problem, namely, that I can't locate PT 76 anywhere.

I've taken all the PTs besides 75 and 76 and it's really important to me that I take PT 76 before test date.

Do any of you guys know where I might get it? If it is the case that it hasn't been published, do you know when it might become available?

Thanks!

Wow, I know for the most part if we apply the skills we've come to learn then we should be OK with the slight variations of the more recent exams, but honestly, holy shit.. they are definitely harder. Maybe not so much the questions, but I guess the length of the question stems. Super frustrating, I wish I started PTing these 69 and up 2-3 weeks ago. Any advice on how to tighten up LR on these more recent exams? I just took 70, and my confidence is shaken. Is it just an adjustment period with reading these longer stimuli? I sure hope so.. or im fucked 13 days from now

Hi All-

I am having trouble skipping questions in LR. I recognize when I am spinning my wheels about half the time but the other half it is when I look up and I have spent three minutes or more on a question that I realize that I need to skip it. Any tips on how to skip questions and when to come back to them? How about when you skip questions, how do you mark it on your bubble sheet?

Thanks in advance for any tips!

Whats the lowest ranked law school you would attend and why?

Hi. I have submitted my answers for a prep test and the scores are not loading. Anyone else experiencing this problem?

The circles that tell you your score for the Test and for each section is not working. I have tried numerous browsers with no luck.

Note: this is on test's that I have previously taken and graded an am coming back to for review.

Hi guys, I'm new here.

Someone might ask the same question before, but I'm wondering if any of you have used/are using both Velocity and 7Sage? I'm currently using TestMaster's Full Online Course. My TM account only gave me about two months of access of its online materials. I'm a full-time student and when my account first expired, I only finished 30% of the lessons. I had to spend another $700 on an extension, which only gave me two more months!! My TM account is about to expire again in two weeks.

So now I'm looking for a prep course that can supplement my study when I start doing PTs. I've watched some videos from both Velocity and 7Sage and both seem great to me. I plan to take the test in June 2016 and I have to start early because of my other school obligations. I would really appreciate it if you guys can give me some detailed comparisons between the two, specifically the 7Sage Ultimate+ and the Velocity Online Course!! I'm aiming for 170+. Any other test prep suggestions are welcome too.

Thanks!!

I need some help on this MSS question

The stimulus states that some vitamin-fortified foods have 100% recommend daily intake of vitamin A and D. We also know from the stimulus that some (many) people overestimate the serving size of vitamin-fortified foods, eating two or three times the standard serving. The answer ended up being (B) Some people who consume vitamin-fortified foods exceed the recommended daily intake of vitamin A and D.

But isn't it possible that those who overestimate and eat double servings of vitamin-fortified foods are not eating the ones with 100% recommend daily intake of vitamin A and D?

vff some 100% vit a+d

vff some eat two or three times serving size

Am I interpreting the stimulus incorrectly here?

What are the chances or likelihood of transferring law schools after first year?

Does anyone know what factors into it?

If its desirable choice at all?

Hey Everyone!

With the December test coming up, I'm seeing more and more of these threads appear. That said, I really am in need of some guidance. I was scheduled to take the October test, but realized that I was nowhere near my target score. I thought to myself, "surely, if I take it in December i'll be ready!" Turns out, I was wrong. Here's some background information about my situation:

Cold diagnostic (July 2015): An embarrassingly low 137. LG and RC destroyed me.

Most recent PT and average, respectively: 157 and 155.

UGPA: 3.94 (or 3.95...probably the former)

Target PT: 165

Target schools: UCLA, Northwestern, USC, UCI, Iowa, and pretty much any school in the T25 (I prefer to attend the ones listed).

So, what you all think? Postpone, again, and take it in June? Or, take a shot and cancel if things don't go well? I've gotten pretty good at ball parking my PT scores.

I feel like I'm wasting a ton of money by constantly moving/withdrawing. At this point, if I withdraw I will have spent around $260 to not take a test. I figure, I may as well take it just to get the experience.

P.s. My issue is with time...I can get -0 to -3 on every section...I just need 50min/section.

By the way, do cancelled tests appear on your record? I know they count as 1 of your 3 takes, but do schools actually see that you took the test?

Thanks!

I have been doing sections every day (Reasoning, Comprehension, and Games) and getting around a -2 to -5. Granted, many of those sections are repeat sections (sections I have done before but practiced again) but I felt fairly confident in my scores and ability. Today, I took PT 73, and I got a -7 on Comprehension, -6 on Games, and -7 on Reasoning. I cannot believe this. I had felt like that I was performing well on the test. What happened? What can I do to prevent this from happening again?

I feel very confused and frustrated that my individual practice sections are not translating to the practice tests.

I was conditionally approved for an LSAC fee waiver, sent all the documents 2 weeks ago....now they want a tax transcript from the IRS. I don't want to wait anymore - what is the fastest way to withdraw the fee waiver request so my account is not on hold anymore??

Hi everyone, with the December LSAT swiftly approaching I thought it would be good to start a discussion on your personal choice for game day breakfast. I've noticed if I have a breakfast primarily of carbs for example that I feel sluggish and less focused. I seem to perform better on my PTs when I have something more substantial like an egg, or bacon, egg and cheese sandwich. Pacifico has won me over with the bulletproof coffee as well, not sure if I perform better or not but it certainly does seem to help me feel better and more focused. What are your favorite breakfast foods before a PT, or the actual LSAT?

I have been studying for the LSAT for a few months now and my score has tremendously improved. I am now scoring on average 165 consistently on prep tests, but what holds my score back is my reading comp section. I usually always score the lowest on RC. On my last prep test I took, I missed 2 in LG, 2/3 in LR, but missed 8 in RC, so it is really hindering my overall score. I am consistently having trouble with the humanities and social science passages in RC. I do not like those subjects and have had virtually zero practice since high school (I'm a Finance major). I have been practicing more on RC and trying to review, but I just don't know what I can do to help my score. I watched the webinar that was posted previously on the discussing and I am going to try her tips, but I just feel like I always second guess myself and narrow it down to two answers, but in the moment of the test I choose the incorrect answer. Any ideas on what I can do to try to work on my reading or any other tips? I am going to try to notate differently because I do find myself going back a lot and not being able to find anything because I underline everything as I read.

So for questions like question 11 on PT 71(Game 2) where the question is If _____ happens then for how many of the other "pieces" is their position fully determined do you count pieces that are established by a general rule? I watched the video explanation and J.Y. counted it but he didn't give it any comment. I usually do but for some reason I did not on this game. Basically if the initial rules say "X" must be here and then a question stimulus says if "Y" is in this spot, for how many of the other pieces is their position determined you count "X" even though it was already established before the question added a new piece of information? The piece in question here is "G" for this game.

Just wanted to thank @"J.Y. Ping" and 7sage again!

I got into Berkeley Law and I'm sure my LSAT score made a big difference. I wouldn't have scored in the 99th percentile if it wasn't for 7sage.

Thank you 7Sage!

I know that there are recommendations about length here on 7sage, and that there are vague guidelines in other places. However, I want to know how long the personal statement was that you actually submitted as part of your application? I'm having trouble getting mine down to the recommended length (~850 words), and am thinking about turning in a longer essay. Thoughts?