Hi guys,

After finishing the CC and taking a few practice tests, I decided that I'll need to slow down and first drill individual LR question types before diving into more full PTs. I've been using the question bank and doing individual questions timed then leaving one full 35 minute section of JUST that one problem type to do. Afterwards I review the questions. But I still find that I'm struggling and average -8 per section, section of just one problem type that is (which i feel like shouldn't be happening cause I literally did just so many of the SAME question type). I'm wondering how you guys went about this? How did you drill Q types for LR? What helped?

Thanks so much!

How’d it go for everyone? Personally, I was annoyed by the paper test after all of the digital prep I’ve done. I had two LG sections and I’m praying that the art gallery was experimental.

For #2, we can affirm from the first paragraph that MLK was influenced by at least one work from a transcendentalist, namely MLK was influenced by David Thoreau's essay "Civil Disobedience"; the correct answer choice says as much and yet the correct answer for #7 states MLK was not at all affected by transcendentalist thought. But you can't be influenced by a transcendentalist essay (and presumably by the ideas in said essay) and then turn around and say you actually weren't impacted by transcendentalist thought. And both were talking about civil disobedience too. Isn't that a contradiction in the passage/video explanation? I was under the impression that MLK was influenced by transcendentalists, just not as much as writers previously thought.

As for answer choice C, are morality and ethics the same thing on the LSAT?

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Can anyone please help explain this question? very confused..

My thought:

C and S are required to leave their respective stations immediately to pursue any prisoner who attempts to escape.

prisoner escape --> leave

unless they are pursuing such a prisoner, C and S are forbidden to leave until their replacements have arrived.

leave --> replacement arrived or pursue prisoner ??? is that correct?

On 9-11pm, when they finished shifts and replacement arrived, it was discovered that C had violated these rules and S has not.

Pick could be true except:

A prisoner attempted to escape at 7pm, neither C or S left his or her station before 9pm.

Why is this the correct answer?

All the answer choices don't really make any sense to me. Not sure how to apply because the one person violate the other one did not situation completely threw me off...

Please help! Thank you!!!!

Hello! I'm currently working on my weak points of the LSAT and I am Drilling Single/Comparative passages. In anyone's experience with taking the LSAT already, how many passages would you recommend drilling per day? I am doing about 6-7 but i am not sure if that's too much. Any information would be appreciated!

I see that the conclusion is based on a resolve the paradox.

But I find that unfair for a MC question because resolving something does not make it the conclusion of a paragraph.

Example:

If I make a paragraph on what really went down on Roswell, the point is asking all the crazy thing. The main summary would be “something weird happened that caused people to look into”.

If I give explanations (aliens, CIA, time travelers, big foot) that doesn’t justify it to say that’s the conclusion. I would say “ummm no, this just means reasons for what is it”. Reasons for what? The mystery (HENCE THE CONCLUSION)

Are resolving paradox's conclusions now for modern LSAT?

Hi everyone,

My reading comp score has been the same for a while now. It won't go up or down it just stays the same. Can someone recommend some helpful tips on how to be more successful with reading comp? Perhaps there are certain strategies I can implement from the reasoning section in order to help me eliminate wrong answers in reading comp? Please advise! Thank you as always for all your help!

There is a concept from the first few lessons of MSS that I cannot find. It goes like this: "As one thing occurs, in any direction, another thing occurs in that same direction as a result" For example, if the temperature of a large body of water to a depth of 60 meters rises, so will the chance of a strong storm in that area rise. What is this concept called for the LSAT? Is it universal to all question types? Thank you in advance

Just took PT 84 - wondering if anyone found the LR kind of weird? Not hard per se, but for example PT 84 S2 Q2 (an NA) was more of a soft NA answer? They are usually a lot more clear. Idk maybe I’m just being picky but I found there were a couple questions where the answers were a lot more subtle to me.


Anyways, onto PT 84 S2 Q11

I knew AC was right but crossed it off because I thought it attacked a premise. Looking back it appears I misread the stimulus.

The premise says: “Many features ..." Admin Note: I deleted the premise and Answer Choice C as it is against our Forum Rules to post LSAT questions on the Forum.

And AC C says: "Excessive blinking ..."


I thought that the stimulus read “excessive blinking is not such a feature of confidence” (rather than saying "blink rate is not a feature")

My question is, if it had said what I thought it said, would AC C have been an attack on the premise like I thought it was?

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Should you use the phase 2 memory method for RC for the real test?

thank you.

I don't understand why answer C can not be correct. Wouldn't the fact that sicily was/was not cold affect the idea that the cold in China had nothing to do with the eruption? If you determine that it was not abnormally cold in sicily that would automatically mean that the eruption was not the cause of the cold in China.

Hello, I posted a comment on someone's previous post on this question, but because it was from 3 months ago, I wanted to bump with my own post.

I got the answer correct, and I can explain why I thought C was correct, but I couldn't fully prove why A was incorrect. I could eliminate B, D, and E, because the stimulus does not mention what conditions would determine whether someone deserves praise or is worthy of it. The stimulus only mentions whether which treatment is more worthy.

In regards to C) Only what is subject to a person's choice should be used in measuring the praiseworthiness of that person, the stimulus mentions that a person cannot choose to have feelings. Therefore, the ethicist's argument that one's treatment is more worthy of praise if it is at least partially motivated by feelings of compassion means they did not have choice in the matter of having those feelings. So C cannot be true.

For A, the reason why I personally did not choose this answer, is because the stimulus states that treatment that is entirely motivated by cold and dispassionate concern for moral obligation is less worthy of praise- I was unsure if 'cold and dispassionate concern' could still be categorized as feelings, even if it is slightly described as lack thereof. Still, I couldn't completely eliminate this answer.

I'm not sure if my reasoning is correct- could someone confirm? Thank you so much!

looking for people who plan to Study Group Online together no test date just to study

Is any one here getting an "upload speed" issue ? It says that my upload speed is bellow minimum requirement. The issue appears randomly for a few minutes. Any idea what's going on ? I know we can't write the test if we don't meet the speed requirement.

Guys should I cancel my score if it is below 150 and I’m planning to take it in September and hopefully improve by then since I’ll have the whole summer to practice more and more?

im taking the exam in person and when i went on lawhub and clicked lsat it said information on scheulding with a proctor has been sent to you, i just wanted to know if you guys see that also or i missed out on an email or something

Hi everyone, I am posting because I recognized that I had actually blacken 29 ovals for the reading section and I am wondering whether I should cancel my score. Given that there were only 25 questions in the reading section, I must have repeatedly blacken several ovals. However, I cannot recall whether I made this dreadful marking mistake early on or not, but I feel like my entire response for RC is misplaced and the worst scenario is that I may score nothing for my RC section.

I am extremely anxious right now because the September exam is my fifth and also the final shot. I took my first exam last year and canceled the grade because RC smashed me. I score in the lower 150 twice and my highest score is 158 so far. I was hoping to use the September exam to boost up my score and get application done, but now all I want to do is to cancel my score...

Do you have any suggestion? Should I cancel this time and apply with the 158? Or should I keep it and retake in November? If I decided not to cancel this time, will a extremely low score hurt my overall application? Thanks so much and any help is appreciated!

Very interesting question. Chose C like a moron cuz I was thinking hmmm how would irritation in the lungs and pollen has anything to do with death? No way people die to pollen allergy?

AC A is the correct one. The fact that population increased does not mean anything to the argument. I can't even identify the trap here and my theories are that first, it is trying to trick the taker by hinting at that the death rate rose was just due to the population increase instead of the inhaler. But death rate has already taken into account of total population, so if death rate rose, the total urban population doesn't matter: it simply means that the percentage of ppl within a given population dying to asthma has increased. My second theory is that the test writers want to make test takers mistaken "population" as "pollution," but idk.

AC B is a direct reference to the part where the question stem mentions that the ability to count asthma patients has not improved. AC B bolsters that part of the argument, making it more likely that there is something else other than the increased accuracy of data collection.

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Hey everyone! I am looking for some awesome strategies on improving timing for LG. I noticed that most of the time, I can do LG to complete perfection in blind review or when I practice untimed (bad habit, I know). But during timed conditions, I ALWAYS run out of time from spending too much time up front on the first game. The only thing that has made somewhat of a difference thus far is doing all of the "if" questions first and then going back and doing the other questions that don't present new info. So if anyone has any time-saving tips I would be forever grateful!!!

How are you guys approaching RC when doing low res? Since LSAT is digital, you can't write in the margins of the passage. Should we just commit to memory the low res of each paragraph? Or are we supposed to write them down on scratch paper?

I've been looking at this question for the last 20 minutes, watched the JY's explanation, and looked through the comments. Still have no idea what is going on. Can someone help explain it to me?

Thank you!

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Hello All,

I have taken the LSAT a number of times, and most of the time my score is unsatisfactory in comparison to what I had been PTing. Most recently, I scored a low 160 when I had been averaging 170+ the last 7 or so PTs previously. Any advice on what I could be doing wrong?

LG I have down to -0 and RC I know I can improve. I think most of the issue is LR, where I feel like the questions I PT are so much different (and easier) than the ones that show up on the real exam. I don't strictly recreate exam day conditions during PT, but maybe even less than ideal conditions (people walking around, visual/audio distractions, etc.) and yet I still do well on PTs and not on the official exam.

Any help is greatly appreciated, thanks y'all

So I have found, as with many others I am sure, that time is the enemy (in general but way more so on the LSAT) When fool proofing are you guys starting out timed then just reducing the time each round, or do you begin untimed? I am never sure exactly how much time to give myself. I am not 100% on games ever but with a solid 15mins I can figure just about anything out (sometimes I still miss a question), but I know I will NEVER have that for just one game. I am not sure with what games I should be giving myself 8-10 mins, and which I should be giving myself 5...i've been thinking for fool proofing to give myself 10 mins on all to begin with, then each round of 'retesting' reducing it by two minutes? does that sound like a good idea? I really need to improve my logic games because right now I am finishing PT tests and getting usually all of the questions I FINISH right, but only actually finishing 2/4 games, which as you can imagine is killing my score.

Looking for Similar Logic Games to Practice that are hybrid type with a ton of variables kinda like PT 5 Game 4 or PT 89 Game 4. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Citizen's Sufficient Condition: Interest in helping the economy

Citizen's Necessary Condition: Building a business park

That is to say, if one has an interest in helping the economy it is a given that they would build a business park; if they do not build a business park then there is no way they have an interest in helping the economy.

Question is NA, focus on the above necessary condition when looking at answer choices - If she did not believe that building a business park would help the economy, then fail necessary -> fail sufficient implies she has no interest in helping the economy, which disagrees with the assumption that she does not believe that the business park would help.

In other words, if she does not believe a business park would help she could still be acting in the economy's best interest by doing what she believes would help. This is why it is required for the citizens to assume she knows that building a business park is better than the highway.