Hey everyone,

Whether you are going into September LSAT or have heard about how difficult the newer tests are I want to actually say please do not worry. I know I did for a while but I want to share my experience with you and I hope that dispels a lot of the fears for the upcoming tests.

Throughout my preparation for LSAT I know I kept worrying that I hadn't ventured into taking the newer tests and as test day kept approaching my fears would increase that maybe I was missing out on something that the newer tests wold test me on and I would therefore end up scoring lower. My tutor was firm in making sure that I use all my old prep materials first and I got into the score range that I wanted to be in before giving me any of the newest test.

A month ago, my tutor had me take a test without knowing what PT it came out of. It's essentially a blind test and I did not feel the difference. It turned out it was a higher 70 series test and I ended up scoring in the same range that I usually do. Since then I have done a blind test on lower 70's and higher 70 PT series and I always end up scoring in my score range. This is true despite some PT's having weird games and I actually did not do well on some of those weird games. Despite that, I still managed to score in my average range.

I agree that the newer tests are different from 1-40 PT series. I also see that we now have comparative passages in RC and weird games in LG. But comparing the logic and even the language from 50-70 series I didn't see a difference. At least the difference wasn't enough to take me out of my average score range.

I really hope this helps people who fear the newer tests. If the tests were significantly different or harder then when I did the higher 70 series without knowing what PT number it was I should have still scored lower. But that did not happen. Obviously what I did is not a robust study and it did not involve a lot of participants. But its enough for me to know to not worry and my hope is that it helps other people not worry that the test on this coming Saturday will be significantly harder than what we have faced.

True some RC's or LG's are tougher but the curve compensates for that. When you do start scoring in your range that you want, I would say you are ready to take the LSAT real time whether you have taken many 70 series or not. So please don't freak out about the series in your prep or as you go into the test if you have not done a lot of newer test. Just do what you have been doing to score high and you will do just fine.

Good luck :).

Maybe a few of us will be testing together.

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I'm not too sure what to do, I mean, I'm not doing PTs yet - I just want to focus on improving on each section before starting ahead w the PTs. Should I just keep working away at sections from PTs for LR? Is that the best way to improve?

Where can you buy the cambridge difficult passages?

I find in the LR section that it's not a particular type of question that kills my score, but the timing. I notice that I get a few questions wrong in the dead center of the test and then the last few questions. In the middle of the test, I believe my mind tends to wander just to check the time and I get a little more stressed at that point when I realize how much time I have. This also happens at the end when they announce "5 minutes" are left because even though it is a lot of time, I feel like it never is.

Any advice on continuing to focus, without completely ignoring time?

I have my admissions ticket printed and ready to go for this Saturday, when I realized my photo does not completely fill the 2x2 box. There is a white bar next to the photo. The photo is clear and you can tell it is me - do you think I will be allowed in or are they going to give me a difficult time/turn me away?

Hi guys,

So, I'm over here frustrated trying to figure out what I'm doing wrong. I can't seem to get out of the mid 150's range -- and I have been here for quite some time. My BR has been going up (currently at 165). I drill often but I'm just not seeing results. I only see them when I BR.

I don't want to keep taking tests though I think I should because I am writing in December (and yes I know I should write only when I'm ready but I have made the decision to put this down after February -- been at it for too long).

I want to hit at least a 160 consistently before the December test but I just don't know what to do anymore. :(

Help!

Hi,

I'm scheduled to retake the LSAT on Saturday. I initially scored a 172 in February after 3 weeks of study interrupted by having my wisdom teeth yanked. Early in the summer I made the decision to retake and fool proofed the logic games(my weakest section) to the best of my ability. I was relatively happy with this decision and felt I had a good chance of squeezing a few more points out of the test until yesterday.

I woke up with a sore throat, spent the day sneezing and coughing, ran a mild fever, and vomitted during the night. I have previously largely found that practice testing in sub-optimal conditions tired, hungry, with distractions, on pain medication after my wisdom teeth were pulled has not significantly affected my results and I feel a little better this morning so my question is two fold.

First, should I take the test even if I am still sick the morning of?

Second, does anyone have any tips for managing a cold or the flu while taking the LSAT?

The ticket says "No later than 8:30am." Do people tend to arrive much earlier than then?

Hey everyone,

I was curious whether one should aim at clocking in answers within the 1:24 minute mark while learning the CC for the first time. I've been taking way more time than necessary on LR questions with a higher difficulty rating (approximately 5 minutes or so on each of those questions). I've read elsewhere that in the CC phase, one is typically fine doing those questions untimed. I'm worried that if I continue to do them untimed I might run into timing issues when I start taking PTs. That said, I do want to get a solid grasp of the logic of this test. Not sure which is the best way to go. Interested in knowing from you experienced test takers!

Hey guys,

I am almost finished with the CC, but I was just wondering how many of you actually watched all of the LR videos (ie. all the flaw question videos leading up to the problem sets). I have taken a course before that I didn't find to be helpful so I feel like watching 15 flaw videos aren't really helpful to me at this point since I have a pretty good understanding of watching just a few of the videos.

What have you guys done? Did you watch them only to become more familiar with how JY tackles a question or did you watch all of them? Or did you come back to them once you felt like you were still struggling with the problem sets?

Thanks :)

Good luck peeps.

Hi all,

Has the LSAC ever given an experimental section a sthe very first section before?

I was hoping to get a sense of how long I can expect it to take to complete the application process. I understand that this is completely subjective and based on each person, but I am trying to figure out how realistic it will be for me to apply this cycle.

I was planning to take the September LSAT but I am not currently scoring as high as I would like. At this point I can expect between a160-165, the numbers indicate I will be on the lower side. I had a 3.82 undergrad GPA and I would rather not squander that with a mediocre LSAT. I have spent today contemplating if I should postpone until December, but this made me realize that if I did I would not have much time to actually complete the applications once I get my score. I understand there are some portions I might be able to complete before I take the test, but in effect that will take away time from actually prepping. I was really hoping to not need to wait another year before law school, but I am now thinking it is something I might have to consider.

Edit - One other question, will a school look consider the fact that someone already applied and got rejected during a previous cycle?

The LSAT is pretty explicit that you need to show up on test day looking like you do in your photo (including needing to wear your facial hair in the same way etc). The photo requirement has always confused me - not sure how it prevents people from taking the test for other people because they can still just submit the photo of the person showing up on test day? (let me know if I'm missing something).

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Anyways, anybody have any experience they're comfortable sharing or know anyone with experience re: presenting their gender differently than in their LSAT photo? Has anyone heard of anyone being denied entry into the LSAT because their gender presentation doesn't match their LSAT photo, or doesn't match their legal sex on their ID? And in general, not exclusive to gender presentation, how similarly do you have to present yourself (for example, can you have short hair in person if you have long hair in your photo)?

Also - solidarity to all the queers taking the LSAT in September. Would love to hear more about what you're planning on doing with your law degree - hope it's not evil :/

Sometimes I have to take a breath and remind myself of why all this studying, hours, tears and heartburn is worth it. For me, the drive comes from envisioning myself helping employers and their employees stay aligned with the proper Labor and employment laws (a passion of mine) and having a lucrative career that can take care of my family for generations. What is your motivation for studying? Why do you want to be a lawyer?

Hi friends,

After reviewing some mistakes from one last practice test and making sure I got my stuff down, I decided that these next two days (Thursday and Friday) will be LSAT hiatus for me. I am a firm believer in resting my mind before standardized tests. Before I log off, I just want to say I wish you all the very best. I know many of us are going in on Saturday with our minds ready for this to be over.

As someone who has been studying for this test for over a year and has put her heart and soul in it, I've come to realize this. People who study for this test are truly brave and ambitious souls. This web platform is fantastic and I'm truly greatful for the advice I've been getting. Thank you to 7sage especially JY and Dillon.

All the very best to all of you. Be kind to yourselves when you go in there tomorrow and know that if you've done everything you can to prepare, you're good to go.

Peace,

Shireen.

Hey guys, had a student email in asking how to best use the LSAT Trainer and 7Sage together. We don't have a guide on how to do that so I thought you guys could help out. Here's the email:

I just had a quick question. It might be a question that does not have an answer yet or it does have one. Before i signed up for the 7sage i read online and a lot of people stated the way your course is was similar and goes perfectly with the LSAT trainer book by Mike Kim. My main question is that do you have some sort of document or PDF that gives you the page number of the lesson a student would be currently on in the 7sage course to the LSAT trainer book? That way if a student like myself who cannot afford to pay for the ultimate package, can still have access to more questions via the LSAT trainer book. is there something of that sort? Just thought i would ask.

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Well, over 20 test centers in Florida have cancelled their administration of Saturday's test. LSAC has confirmed that there will be a makeup scheduled. Is anyone familiar with the protocol for makeup exams? What does the curve for a makeup exam look like? Any information you have about what to expect is much appreciated! Thanks in advance!

I am currently finishing the section in about 36.45 minutes. I have just started drilling RC today after realising my issue with the timing.

When I do individual passages I usually do it in 9-10 minutes with -0 but with timed sections it's closer to -5 or -6.

I'm also worried about bubbling in the answers within the 35 minutes, as right now i spend close to 4m on reading and about 6 min with the answers which gives me hardly enough time to even finish all the questions :(

I'm slightly worried, I'm planning to take the December Lsat, is it possible for me to reach my goal of -2 within time by then?

Any strategies, turning points stories would be great!

Thanks :)

Hey Everyone,

So I took one last PT on Tuesday and just graded it. Did anyone else find the last passage on RC PT76 really difficult? I usually score in the low-mid 170's and I got the lowest score on a PT than I have in the last month or so. So I'm basically just trying not to freak out because RC is usually my strong suit. Ugh.

Just wondering what you guys look oit for whilst reviewing tape

Thought it was strange that no one reached out to confirm my accommodations for Saturday like they usually do. So I reached out to the supervisor here in Louisville, and someone in her office notified me that I am scheduled to take the test next weekend (23rd) instead of this weekend, even though my ticket said the 16th.

This seemed strange, since when I took the test last December, there was not a separate date for accommodated testing. But after speaking with the administrator directly, I found out that they had to reschedule at the last minute because there were not enough proctors. Just a few minutes after we spoke, I received an email from LSAC containing the updated information.

From the LSAC Accommodations page: "Additionally, your test may be scheduled for an alternative, later date."

This is just a reminder to everyone with accommodations that you should confirm the details for your test with the administrator. There may be some last minute changes that you aren't aware of. They had apparently lost my contact info, which is one of the reasons I wasn't informed until this morning. But she also mentioned that this happened with another person, so I hope whomever that is gets the message as well.

Should we see something similar in PT 82 on Sat? ... Is there any sort of a pattern or just varies? ... Prepare for the worst I guess?