I've just decided to postpone taking the december lsats! I scored a 161 on the september test, after consistently scoring in the high 160s on pts. However while prepering for a retake i broke through the 170s and decided i might as well aim higher!! I'm trying to get my hands on pt c2. Does anyone know where i can find it??

Anyone know where I can find a tutorial on 7sage re: the writing sample?

Taking the LSAT Saturday, while reviewing some LR questions today I came across something that sucks up a bunch of my time. It's the silly word "generalization" !

This is a labeling question where we need to figure out the role played by the statement "for music is merely sound". Two of the answer choices begin with "it is a generalization..." and I struggled to quickly eliminate them. After about a minute on the question I was able to eliminate those answer choices and choose the correct answer, but I got stuck got longer than I'd like. Has anyone come up with a quick way to eliminate the "generalization" answer choice? I believe I've come across this option in previous prep tests and I can't recall any instances where this was the correct answer... anyone have an example of that?

Thanks and good luck everyone!

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-77-section-4-question-22/

Please explain to me how in the world can D be the correct answer. The colloquial word 'buff' is the only thing in its favor. How could an article containing words such as apoptosis, nuclei, atrophy be meant for a general audience? I found all answers horrible, but B was the only neutral one without anything ridiculous in it, and so I chose it.

Thanks for your help!

Hello, so I'm looking for another recommender now and got a reply from one of the profs I contacted and...

He said he is ill (has serious illness he said) now and just got back from hospital.

(He also retired from teaching.)

He was the 2nd best prof I knew and since the best prof I know may not be available, I really hoped that I could get a letter from him.

I don't know...normally I would not ask or bother him but I may not be able to find another prof...

What should I do?

Can I still ask him to write a letter or should I not bother him?

Anybody have a list of the hardest logic games in history of the LSAT? Preferably from PTs 52 and on.

Hey! I'm just trying to get an idea of what information i'll need on test day to fill out the forms properly?

will we get enough time and guidance on this on test day?

I'm sure others are wondering too.

Thanks!

In another thread, about Logical Games, which I didn't want to hijack:

@BinghamtonDave This is a set that doesn't allow an ounce of hesitation or misreading.

Because this is a skill that's absolutely required for success in law school.

Right? ... Right?

And to anyone, including the LSAC, who says, "Maybe not specifically, but LSAT scores correlate well with success in law school," my response is that you do not understand the distinction between necessary and sufficient conditions.

And somewhat separately, but still within this discussion's title: it's 2016 and not only are we taking multiple choice exams on paper, we're writing essays in pencil?! Is meekly accepting being treated like a child -- or a criminal -- a criterion for success in law school?

I have been getting the same consistent scores for over a month now and have been happy with my score, but I took a PT two days ago (two days in a row) and went down 4 points on both of these days..not sure why? i know for a fact im drained but im not too convinced that this is the reason why my score went down two days in a row exactly -4. what do i do up until the test day? I plan on taking two more practice tests (tomorrow and wednesday) but also nervous to see the same low score I got two days ago? i saw on a few forums that its normal to randomly go lower the last week before the lsat but i also saw on other forums that the last 3 PTs is a good representation of what I would be getting on test day

Hey everyone!

I started the core curriculum on Sept. 26th and so far I've only completed about 10 percent of all the curriculum. I'm currently on the Weakening/Causation questions which are giving me a hard time. I'm a junior/senior in undergrad and I'm planning to take the June 2017 exam. However, I feel that I'm moving too slowly because I have to balance out all my other work while putting in 2 to 3 hours 4 to 5 days a week of prep. When I do study, I'm usually doing question problem sets in which I manage to complete only a few because I take a lot of time typing everything up in a word doc while blind reviewing to fully comprehend the problem (which I truly recommend because it really does help with learning). Should I take it slow and keep doing this, or should I just move on to another section and try to finish the core curriculum as my main priority? I have 7 months until the June LSAT, but at this pace it seems as if I'm never going to finish the core curriculum in time to start doing practice tests lol.

I know some of you will tell me to just go at it slowly and take my time and wait until I'm at my target score, even if it means taking a year off after undergrad. I have seriously considered this and it is an actual possibility for me. However, I'm graduating undergrad a bit behind as it is, and delaying law school will only extend my years of schooling into my late twenties which I truly would not like to do (I just want to work!!). What do you guys think?

hello all ,

I've sort of resigned myself to the fact that i probably wont hit my goal score of 158-60 on test day but its to late to postpone.. I'm registered for feb but I'm feeling a little cynical about December. I've already applied to a few schools so I'm sort of locked in.

what would all of you recommend for someone whose scoring 10/23 on LG? a mixed bag of timed games?

most of the time my achilles is simply my nerves. i get paralyzed when i see a hard game and all the fundamentals seem to slip away.

thanks

I am not looking for any scholly money...my priority is to get admission from ANY t14 law schools so that I can start school in Fall 2017. I am taking both December and February exams and I was wondering if I have little chance for those schools with February score even if I have median LSAT and 75% GPA? I am also an international (but have Undergraduate degree from a top US university. I heard it's harder for international applicants to get admitted.

Hello All–

I'm working on an addendum to include with a few of my applications about a decent difference (6 points, 10 percentile) in scores between 2 consecutive takes. Any feedback would be appreciated, here's what I have so far:

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During the June 2016 LSAT administration, I experienced several compounding issues that resulted in a score I feel is unrepresentative of my ability. Due to a large number of test-takers, the check-in, seating, and test material distribution processes took a significant amount of time. There was an approximate two-hour period of time between entering the testing room and commencing the first section of the exam, during this period I was unable to drink water or use the restroom. Although I was able to access my water during the break, I was already experiencing physical symptoms of dehydration that only worsened during the second half of the exam. As my physical condition worsened, my performance on the exam was significantly affected; notably in the final section of the exam, where I missed more questions than the first three scored sections combined.

Just finished my first timed practice LSAT after having finished core curriculum. I never did the diagnostic one timed so this really was the first ever long testing, timed, sit down session I had with the LSAT, so throw in some factors of some mid-test stress about time and what to do, whether to skip or not etc. I got a 157, and then got a 166 after blind review (did this all in one day). Realistically, am I going to get better with both scores? Do people learn to navigate the time better and the timed test scores increase? Or am I going to lurk in the general area of what I just got in regards to the timed test? What are your experiences

Hi guys,

I am currently in the section of 2nd RC section within the lecture. And just this weekend, I went back to LR again just to take a look, I felt less confident about my ability to handle these questions.

As such, I was wondering how you can do drills about them while in for instance, this week RC and next week LG.

I suppose reading prep book such as the one from Manhattan in the meantime maybe a good idea?

Thoughts?

I got it right. But I don't know why J.Y said we can can make "some" statement by contrapositive. The relationship is about "all" statement.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-34-section-2-question-23/

Any idea？

I understand. You're going to take an important test. It's not the most important test though. That one is called the February LSAT.

Just kidding. This is likely the last LSAT you'll ever take.

I'm only trying to remind you that for something this important, there are second chances. That's not true for a lot of other important things in life, so that's something to feel good about.

For most of you, you already know what score you'll get. Take your last three recent properly administered LSAT PrepTests (e.g., 77, 78, 79) and average your scores. You'll get plus or minus 3 points of that average.

There is nothing separating you from that score except the mere passing of a few day's time.

You are as prepared as you can be. You have already seen everything those crafty LSAT writers will throw at you and you've amply demonstrated your ability to respond with craftiness of your own.

Saturday will be just another PT day and the December 2016 LSAT will be just another PT. PrepTest 80, in fact, when the LSAC releases it a month from now. And how different could that be from PT 79 and PT 78 and PT 77 and on and on and on.

You are ready.

Even for those few insanely difficult curve breaker questions. Every LSAT has them. Every student who has ever taken the LSAT before you has encountered them. You have encountered them on your PTs and you will encounter them again on Saturday. Do what you've always done: skip. Keep moving.

Good luck!

If you happen to be in NYC, come grab a drink and something to eat on us:

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The December 2016 LSAT is gonna be https://media.giphy.com/media/YmiL1QKb89fPi/giphy.gif

Despite that jawesomeness, there's always a little anxiety before test day. And it's okay to be a little nervous, but it really isn't warranted. If it's test day, that means all the work is already done. At this point, you're not starting the LSAT, you're finishing it. The LSAT doesn't happen in a test room on test day. The real LSAT happens in the months and sometimes years leading up to test day; it happens in libraries and on desks and breakfast tables, in coffee shops and on trains, and in the curriculum and drills and PTs and BRs and seemingly endless reviews. All of your points have already been earned, and what's left now is simply a formality. We'll all see each other on the other side to try and determine which sections were experimental, but first, let's meet up and see each other off right!

Wednesday, November 30, 7pm EST

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If you need a break from studying, or you're trying to remember why you're doing this in the first place, Slate's Working podcast just released a great episode on what an immigration lawyer actually does all day:

https://player.fm/series/slate-magazine-daily-podcast/working-the-how-does-an-immigration-lawyer-work-edition

Anyone else down for another PS swap??

I took the OCT 2015 lsats for the first time and I did absolutely horrible . I only received at most 3 1/2 hrs of sleep and went to do the exam on an empty stomach . Within the second section I just wanted the test to be over with ; I also guessed on a majority of the LG games . I ended up scoring a 139. I started studying again and decided to take in September 2016 . I felt like I was better prepared ; I took a full time Power Score course , studied from 4-7 hrs a day and the whole nine yards . I made sure I got a good night rest the day before and ate before taking the test. I ended up scoring a 140. I don't know what else to do , I really need assistance smh .

I know that LSAT PT 69 has live commentary - are there any other PT sections with this? I seem to remember seeing some live commentary in the 70's but can't find it now

Hey,

This might not be appropriate to ask here but...

How to explain to them if you want to take another test/extend the test?

I have already postpone my June, September test actually and I explained to them all of the advice here and I also explained the score remains for 5 yrs and how important the score is etc.

But it seems like I cannot convince them anymore about postpone so I am kind of pushed to take the test.

I told them that if I cannot get the score that I want, I want to work&study for another take, but they said it is impossible.

I understand what they say too and because they are not as young as my friends' parents, I also feel like maybe I should give up if I do not get a decent score on December and support them instead of pursuing my selfish dream.

I am going to take the December test but...if possible I hope I can take 2nd or even 3rd test if the score is not good. In that case how should I explain to them? Saying nothing is actually not an option because we share our stories basically.

I feel really bad since they have supported me a lot so far...and not sure what to do now.

The best is to get a decent score on December test, but from my PT scores...especially the one on PT79, I'm not sure...

What would do/say?

Sorry for the unorganized sentences...appreciate any thoughts.

Thanks

Hi guys,

So here is what I have written down in my notebook as a problem I am having. If you have any good solutions please let me know.

So this is what I have written down today in my notebook:

1. When the question asks to refer back to specific passages, correctly identifying the referencing passage is key.

2. After the referential passage is correctly identified, the section of the paragraph should be read in sizeable amount as to capture the underlying meaning in a complete or sufficient manner. Even if there is a passage break in between, the beginning of the next passage should be read as well to identify for any hints.

3. A question can be made difficult by the author through applying referential phrasing in the sentence which it directly is referring. Under such circumstance, patience and care should apply and the main intended topic needs to be draw-out through back solving.

4. A question can be selected wrong for this set of questions when there is a answer choice that directly points out the main point of the passage. Under referencing questions, this reference only applies to the sentence which it is pointing instead of the main point. The brain has a tendency to go with the familiar without actually drawing a constraint for the task at hand.

Please let me know how you deal with this situation.

Hello,

I just finished my personal statement.. and it's kind of late but anyone willing to read it and give feedback?

my draft has about 600 words and i have to trim it down to 500..