Hey everyone!

So I have just started the LG section in the CC. JY mentioned something along the lines that we should be memorizing all the inferences of a game, and doing the game over and over to the point that we've memorized all the inferences. Could someone clarify what exactly I'm supposed to memorize? Kind of confused as to why I should memorize inferences if each game is going to have somewhat different game pieces and outcomes. Thanks so much!!!

So the app I use to track my workouts lets you pre-download the videos explaining the proper form of the various exercises they assign within the application itself. This way you don't have to rely on good reception in the gym or if you don't have unlimited data you can download the videos on Wi-Fi. As someone who loves to study on public transit or wherever I happen to be, a feature that allowed one to pre-download a number of 7Sage lessons while at home on their wifi network so they could later watch them on their iPad or iPhone would be great.

Does anyone know how long it takes for LSAC to recalculate your GPA?

I had three transcripts sent in which were all completed this morning, however, I still cannot view my Academic Summary Report. Thanks!

Hey all. Just wanted to write and foster a discussion about weakening questions. I don't really fully understand them. Sometimes I will get them right and then other times I will completely mess them up. I am really quite sad about this, as I obviously want to conquer them. Any insight into approach would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!

Hey guys! Since I know a lot of you just took the February LSAT, I wanted to hold a little contest of sorts. It's relatively simple, nothing flashy-- but the 3 people who post the most detailed, well-written review will get our Admissions Course for free. If you already have our Admissions course, you'll get a +1 month extension or a PT explanation of your choice. (If you don't have a full course, this will only last for a month!)

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Thanks!

Hey all,

So I'm finding myself a bit confused on the LG fool proofing method. Not the actual method, but which games I'm using. I have seen lots of people say the games from 1-35, but I'm not sure where this "packet" of games is on 7sage. What I did was take all the games from the LG section in the CC that J.Y went over, as they seem like a good large sample of the different kinds of games you need to master, and I'm fool proofing those. But those games don't seem to be all games from tests 1-35. Honestly, when I looked online, I couldn't even find the LSAT tests from below 7. I did purchase the 7-12 tests and I'm doing some of those games to mix it up as their style is quite different from the newer games.

So I'm just a bit confused about the 1-35 packet thing. I feel like if I master the games in the CC that that is probably good enough, as well as throwing in some of the games from earlier prep tests to test my ability to handle weird games. I also plan to spend a lot of time with miscellaneous games.

Am I approaching this wrong?

Thanks!

So i went throught the CC and i lost my notes. Could anyone lmk what are the main concepts that JY recommends memorizing. Im making flash cards and it wouod be a huge help.

I just want to make sure I'm doing blind review correctly. Essentially, I should be going through the questions three times, yes? First under timed conditions. Second, going through the circled questions under untimed conditions. Finally a third time going through the questions to solidify my reasoning for the questions I either missed or stayed the same during blind review.

Hey everyone,

Its been little more than a week of fool proofing after completing the logic games lessons in the CC and I have completed all of the the logic games in the first 10 PTs. So far, I am averaging about 11-13 mins/per game (not section) and usually get 1-2 questions wrong/per game. However, after watching the LG explanation videos, I pick up on the inferences and do the same games in half the time and rarely get any questions wrong.

I know its only been a week of fool proofing, yet I kind of feel discouraged as my time has not seen any significant change after the first 40 games (i.e., I am still taking about 45 mins per LG section). Is this progression relatively normal? I want to continue fool proofing, yet at the same time, I don't know if I should review the lessons before moving forward with the next 100 games. Any advice would be much appreciated. Thank you!

Hi Everyone,

Please don't tell me I am the only person on edge this week waiting for scores to be released?!

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Admin edit: Don't yell, I'm sensitive! :( (Caps and excessive exclamation marks removed from title)

So I've taken about 6 full PT and a few more timed LR sections, and I seem to not being getting too much better at LR. Currently I'm getting about -10 per section and really would like to be getting -2 or -3. When I BR I get nearly all of the questions right. I have a skipping method, but I was curious if there were any other fixes, or if it was just something that comes with time, patience and practice?

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Hey everyone,

Hope everyone is coping while you wait for your scores! I had a quick question regarding how you guys keep track of your LR drilling. I am in the process of fool proofing PT's 1-35 and decided (with the help of @Freddy_D and @"Alex Divine") to work in some LR in order to stay sharp. I decided to just use the LR sections from whatever PT I was fool proofing that day in order to keep it simple. As of right now, that's PT12.

My question to you is: how do you keep track of your LR performance? I think that I will only do one of the two LR sections in order to free up some time to work through the Trainer but I am curious as to what your methods are for going through LR.

Thanks everyone!

For those of you who applied and go in to Berkeley/have legitimate insider info, how critical is it have a 3-4 page Personal Statement?

I've seen conflicting information online. Some say it's fairly important to make sure it's longer, others have said avoid adding fluff if you do a solid job in 2 pages.

Good morning 7Sage community! I originally planned to take the September 16 test this year, but after careful consideration, I have decided to push it back to the December 2 test. That being said, where I am currently at in my studies is that I have finished the CC, fool-proofed LG 1-35, and am currently on the PT phase.

My reasoning for pushing back the exam is due to a few reasons: 1) I was out of the country for two weeks at the beginning of June where I did not look at any LSAT material and will be out of the country again in early August for about a week and I don't anticipate myself looking at LSAT stuff, 2) as of writing this post, the September test is a little under 12 weeks away which I don't believe is enough time to get myself in the score range I want, and 3) I started a new job (as a legal assistant!!) which is exceptionally demanding often making me work overtime making doing full PTs after work not really possible.

The December test is a little under 23 weeks away which I believe is ample time to PT and BR enough to where I feel comfortable and confident sitting for for the test. I have already taken PT 36, BR it, and reviewed weak spots. My question is what would you all recommend for a PT schedule. Realistically, I plan on doing one PT a week to start and seeing if I will have time to add a second as long as I can properly BR it. I've seen on another post that doing every other PT or so is a good idea so I don't burn through them all in case of a retake. I'd love to hear your guys thoughts on this so any advice would be much appreciated!

I am nearing the end of my core curriculum, what's the next step?

should I be fool proofing logic games from pt 1-35? or diving into the pts? or something else perhaps?

thanks

There are different techniques used for each section of the LSAT. On the RC section, you need to read the passage. You need to read it like a Reasoning Question. This takes me 3.5 minutes on average. I am an excellent reader, and I have read these sections in two minutes, which would work if I were reading a Tom Clancy novel, but this stuff is dry -and uninteresting. You have to be in the mindset to suck this info in. I don't mark up the page with lots of symbols, I mark the different viewpoints. I look for the key point in each paragraph. I underline that part. I put a V by each viewpoint. Timeline, you should be able to remember chronology without going back to look, and you should be able to remember where to find the answers to the questions, by memory, you don't want to have to reread a paragraph. I hope this helps.

Whyyyy is this so hard for me?? I am on RC on the Ultimate + (I upgraded yay!) and I'm finding that the hardest questions in the set for me are the first ones -- 'What is the main point'. In my mind there is just so much information, I can't seem to figure out which concept is the main point unless it's a super easy passage. Anyone have any tips? Is there anything that gives a general 'clue' about what sentence/thought is the Main point?

Hi guys,

What is your opinion on the optimal daily study schedule from now until the September LSAT? How many LR, RC, and LG sections per day and how many prep tests per week? Of course, review of the sections should be added into the daily schedule as well.

Good morning 7sagers! (or afternoon, or whatever!)

I have a quick question for everyone. As of right now I go roughly -4 to -5 on any given LR section. I took a full timed PT this weekend, and am now reviewing it.

THREE of the LR questions I missed because I am a special kind of special.

1.) I read the stem and saw principal and my head assumed I needed to find something consistent with it. The actual stimulus said Inconsistent.

2.) The last question in the section I got really excited for because I read the stem to fast and saw "Main conclusion!" yeah that would have been awesome, except the rest of the stem said "The main conclusion can be properly inferred" .....so yeah this was a SA not a MC.

3.) In the answer choice it said "never happens". I for whatever reason, didn't see "never".

HELP these little mistakes are brutal to my score. Simple issues that when I see are simple Homer Simpson "Doh!" types of mistakes.

Any advice on how to focus more intently on the AC/Stimulus/Stem

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Additionally since I am starting out, how would experienced LSATers rank from most difficult to least difficult the top 5 on this list, just to so i can start tackling the more difficult ones first

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- https://magoosh.com/lsat/2016/most-common-logical-reasoning-question-types/

"he table below displays the various types of Logical Reasoning questions, ranked by how frequently they appear on the exam. The number in the “Frequency” column represents how many questions of that type appear in the official LSAT PrepTests. Thus far, the list includes 55 real exams administrated over the past 15 to 20 years.

The numbers show that the vast majority of Logical Reasoning questions on the LSAT are either Assumption, Flaw, or Inference questions. Those three types combined historically represent about 40% of all Logical Reasoning questions. "

Question Type Frequency

Assumption 427

Flaw 410

Inference 402

Weaken 254

Strengthen 196

this was related i found here; in terms of individual LSAT tests

https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/465

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Okay, you know i saw this as one of my options after exams ended in the middle of April, but i had the POWERSCORE BIBLES already so from the end of April till today i have been reading and doing some drills from there. Not a knock on the curriculum i certainly learned a lot, but i thought to extend my hours of interest into the LSAT i thought a better interactive experience a la 7Sage was needed.

Chiefly, I finished most of the Logical Reasoning book and got my first exposure to the Conditional Reasoning / and a bit of Formal Logic in that book, which was new to me. Interestingly, at this time I was also under the impression that i would drill the question types 1 by 1 (MBT, A, CBT, MP) (which i know now is not recommended, but i think i will do in the beginning for as much as i think is needed not to burn as much PTS)

In May, I then switched from that and tried to get my exposure to Logic Games and read through as much as i can--mind you i was trying to be ready for September 2017 {thank God for 7Sage's tip to not to take it within 3 months} Anyway, i signed up 2 days ago listened to webinars, heard the methods and philosophies and AM happy I decided to find out what this place was all about!!

Here is my situation I am still in the process of finishing my degree but my schedule allows me to only have to take one course in September, meaning i will have an excess of time to PT, and BR, but before then i want to drill and hone my skills using material from PTs 1-35

Currently, until middle of August I am also taking one other class, so essentially I HAVE a BOAT LOAD of time to dedicate and prepare for December, with a so-so knowledge of Logic Games and Logical Reasoning, just minimal drilling at this point, because i have been jumping between school and this.

Here is what i have:

-Time 7 days a week: maybe 2-4 hours max for school/ 2 or 3* a week

-I have all the 3 books of POWERSCORE LR: 70% done LG: 50% done {basic/adv ordering and Grouping} RC: 0%

-I have Mike Kim's LSAT trainer 2nd edition {i might save this for august or after i strenthen my base knowledge and mechanics}

*my goal is to power through and complete Powerscore and 7sage for the 2nd week of July}

I have all PTS 1-80, and also i have them grouped in booklets from POWERSCORE per section {LR,LG, RC}, / per type

From what i have gathered this is the best thing to to do in my beginning stages is to drill the foundations of every question type for LR through practice and BR using PT LR Questions 1-20, then 20-35 i would save until i have comfortably drilled RC and LG to do as an actual PT, rather individually.

For LG drill the foolproof method using PT 1-20 or up to 35

For RC i have no idea what to do here yet i haven't looked it up.

In any case, if i can get a veteran advice or even someone who was here a couple of months ago to suggest improvements to this plan. I am simply looking to see what people could say to someone who had 5 months to prep that already has a bit of the knowledge, and has lots of time. What to do, what not to do etc. {i have found looking at answers = bad, defeats BR} and grouping question types {but i'm new and need to build a base from there}. I would still say that i am early in my prep and just want to know where i should focus and prioritize i.e., LG over LR or vice versa. My goal is to be ready to PT by August, because in August i have 4 weeks to do only this before i start my one course and i want a perfect balance of purely PTing before December.

For example, If by august i am in PT mode should i PT + BR PTs 35-50AUGSEP; 50-65OCT; 65-80NOV / or 30-50AUGSEP; 50-80OCTNOV

Additionally, I was going to type out as much LR questions and give explanations for the rights and wrongs to get as much exposure to the structure of LR questions similarly as to what David did to earn his 170, coupled with PTing. Any specifics would be greatly appreciated, such as maybe only saving 10 or so for the last month Nov before the December 2nd 2017 test.

Regards,

Hi all,

I've taken my LSAT and am now waiting for the score. I want to get a head start on the applications (recognizing that most applications open during September). I've completed my Personal Statement and writing up a diversity statement now. Is there a resource out there that has a list of essay requirements from top law schools (for example, list of essay questions or guidelines)? I'm aware that the essays typically change year-to-year but any resource to get me a head start would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!