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So I just got my December LSAT results back, and as expected, I didn't do very well (155), I knew right after that exam that it hadn't gone great. I choked on the logic games section, and underperformed on the LR. I need some advice on whether I should take the February one, or wait until June... Essentially my situation is as follows:

I am from Canada, and my GPA is slightly lower than the median for most people applying to law schools here. The average applicant has an A- average which is 80-83% (with a 162 LSAT), mine is a B+ 77%, or so (differs from school to school but this is just a snapshot). This isn't from lack of ability (I got straight A's my final year of university), just lack of focus or motivation my first few years. I already paid for a handful of applications for this coming admission cycle and obviously would like to go somewhere but I am not sure if I should put myself through 1 month of extreme stress with a large chance of not getting a high LSAT mark (163-165) I currently need (and blowing another LSAT write). From what I have learned in JY's course, crushing the LSAT is a habitual process that most people get to from months and months of constant repetition and practice. I put in a couple months of full time studying but clearly that wasn't enough.

A handful of people have recommended that I register for classes at the university I graduated from as an unclassified student and take a year of classes that I am interested in (I am a huge history/politics buff) to bring up my GPA. On average, Canadian law schools tend to weigh GPA slightly higher than the LSAT. I shot myself in the foot by not becoming absolutely stellar at LG's, I was averaging 16/23 on the 8 PT's I took before my actual write. Assuming I did well in all these classes, It would alleviate some LSAT pressure.

The only downsides to waiting until June is that I wasted $800 on applications since February's LSAT is the last score accepted for admission in Fall 2017, and I delay my law school aspirations a bit (I am currently 26 years old).

Anybody who has advice, opinions, or general comments....please let me know!

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7Sage Community,

I never thought I would be posting a discussion again now that I got my desired LSAT score and have submitted all of my applications. But I have to say... I seriously miss all of you and your encouragement. I could not even bring myself to delete the app off of my phone even after I submitted my apps.

So I have already pressed submit on 15 law school apps and after going through them and reviewing them, I noticed that the current address was wrong on one of them. After going through all of them, I noticed I made the mistake on 4 apps. I am absolutely freaking out... I have been told that revisiting or resubmitting apps after you submitted them is a huge NO NO and that it can hurt your chances of getting accepted. The mistake was super minor, I put 726 E instead of 736 E.

Should I just email the law school and let them know? Should I not even bother because most of them send denials/admits over email? Will they use my permanent address? (that one is accurate)

I am completely freaking out, what should I do??

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Hi there..

I was wondering if there is an inclusive list that includes the PrepTests necessary for the different tiers of curriculum with 7Sage. I knew that the PrepTests didn't come with the curriculum but I found myself very frustrated today as I was trying to work through the curriculum only to find out I didn't have all the necessary materials.

Was hoping there was a list so that I can buy them all at once.

Thanks!

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Last comment tuesday, jan 10 2017

Reading comp AGH

I'm scheduled to write the Feb exam and I've noticed that my RC is my worst section by far! I'm averaging - (3-5) per LR section, and -(0-2) per LG section... but getting around 15-17 (out of 27) on RC... I find that I focus too much on the content rather than structure. I most always correctly answer MP questions but find myself lost on questions that reference specific lines and ask for such things as the tone. Recently I've tried to focus less on content, but then I am complete loss when it comes to questions that ask for analogous situations/opinions/beliefs (because I either don't know the authors motives or I spend too much time trying to re-read). I've done loads of passages to know that my skills deteriorate with complexity (obviously like everyone else) but rather than by theme (science, econ, law, etc)... with the exception of history passages, which I would rather just guess :p

Any tips or recommendations for specific skills to help keep on track of what's happening in the passage, without trying to retain information overload?

THANK YOU!!

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Last comment tuesday, jan 10 2017

PT 80?

Does anyone have any insight on when or if we'll have it available for purchase on LSAC's site or Amazon before the Feb administration?

Also, if it does become available, what are the chances that 7sage will have explanations available in time for Feb?

Thanks!

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Couple of questions:

1. How does one translate "never" into Lawgic? I know this is a group 4 indicator, but could someone really break it down and give a couple of examples? I'm struggling with this word.

2. How would one translate this sentence into lawgic (of. 258 of the LSAT trainer) "Sarah will never date a funny guy?" Could you not only state the answer but also WHY you translate it that way?

Thanks in advance!

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Last comment monday, jan 09 2017

Memory Method for RC

When your read the passage in 3.5 min, Jy says to summarize the main point of the paragraph into one line. Does he mean to do this within the 3.5 or after the passage has been read?

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Last comment monday, jan 09 2017

Law School Transfer

Hopefully it doesnt come to this and I get into the law school I want or one that I am satisfied with, but just out of curiosity too, what is the law school transfer process like? Do you apply with LSAT scores as well? New recommendations or the same old one will work? And what factor is considered the highest?

I recently read an article that said that the most transfer students were those going into Harvard Law School interestingly enough. Not saying I wanna go there but there might be better chances when transferring.

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Hello all ,

i was just thinking , given the amount of time that has elapsed , and the fact that i dont remember which questions i circled, wouldn't it be better to re do the December LSAT as a timed exercise by splitting into its components. that way it would serve as practice for all three sections and at that point i could BR etc.

or i could simply just take all the time i need to answer the sections again and see if a second look improves my understanding .

looking for advice

thanks

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Gap year explanation

Hi All,

So I had to take 2 semesters off at the beginning of my 3rd year in university because I had suffered from severe eating disorder... Although I had recovered from it fully since then (and this gap year happened about 7 years ago) I am planning not to write an extra addendum unless schools specifically ask me to explain about any gap years in my education history (So far I have noticed that Cornell, Duke and NYU ask this).

Would it be ok if I just say that I developed a medical ailment and decided to treat it during the 3rd year instead of talking about the details of the illness? I just don't wanna open a can of worms if I do not have to. I've been looking for some sample addenda explaining about gap year but haven't been successful as of yet... Any feedback on this would be much appreciated!

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My goal is to score 160, I scored just a few points shy of that in December but during practice tests before then I was scoring 160 back to back on practice test with my highest score being 161. I am retaking in February with that goal score in mind again. Any tips/study plans from now until Feb,4th? Do I have to begin averaging 165 on practice test to meet this score?

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I was going to take the Feb 2017 test but after a frustrating attempt where I scored 158 earlier this week, I do not think I would be ready in time for the February test (since I want to be scoring within the mid 160s). This would have been my fourth time testing and I have been studying on and off for the LSAT since October 2013 while doing grad school and working. My undergraduate GPA is 3.72 and I just received my MA in Gender Studies in May 2016. Given that the best score I have on file is a 158 and that this is probably the best I can do, should I apply for this cycle or study for another 5 months for the June test? Also, if I do opt to take the June test instead of the February test, do people recommend working part time while studying, or studying full time?

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Short version: Went from a 149 diagnostic to a 157 on the September 2016 LSAT, then 167 on the December 2016 test in 11 months all thanks to 7Sage.

Long version: I'll try to not make this a novel, but I've read every increase story on here and found them all uniquely helpful and motivating so I thought I'd give it a shot!

Before I found 7sage, I took an Oxford Seminars classroom course and found the material quite overwhelming. I worked on some PTs and never saw more than a point increase. Eventually I just gave up on applying to law and cancelled my LSAT registration for December 2014.

I found 7sage last February after doing some research for a different course to try, since I was still so interested in going to law school. This course was my last chance to learn how to beat the LSAT, and I wish I'd found it earlier! I completed the core curriculum and took 16 four section PTs before taking the September test with a 165 PT average on my last 5 tests. Getting my score was brutal, underperformed by 8 points and got a 157. After some reflection I realized test day got to me and that there was more I could do to prepare.

In the two months before taking again in December, I took 13 more PTs and increased my pace from one a week to two a week. I sat the test with a 167 last 5 test average and ended up with a hard-earned 167 as my result.

The three things I did that I felt helped me improve the most were:

1. Taking 5 section PTs. I printed out the September test and redid it as 4 sections and scored 167, so I knew I had a stamina problem. I read somewhere that taking 4 sections was just as good, but that didn't hold true for me. I'd recommend taking 5 sections only as soon as possible, because you don't want to find out on test day that you're one of the people that need it like I did!

2. Learning to plug away at all LG sections. I would often mentally give up halfway through the section if the last two games didn't "click". On the September test I panicked so badly that I left 10 questions blank and scored a dismal 8/23. I was able to gain 10 points in December for an 18/23 by practicing filling in all the bubbles on games I was struggling with, then picking the easiest questions that could be answered with the rules alone or at least eliminate obvious wrong answer choices. The last two games made no sense to me but by elimination and brute forcing I was able to score the points I needed and make some late inferences.

3. Being more strict with dropping the pencil on time. I made sure all answers were at least guessed around the 32 minute mark and working on the ones I thought I had the best chance at getting. This worked well for me on LR especially.

Thoughts on future tests:

I'm out of the game thankfully, but I'd recommend that test takers do all the early logic games (PT 1-10 have some weird ones) to get an edge on the more unusual games that have been appearing. I'd also say that doing and BRing more PTs than I did would probably help as well, since I only did 29 in total.

Finally, thank you to JY and everyone who posts on here!! Lots of people read but don't post like me (until now) and really benefit from all the advice posted. Best of luck to those still on their journey!

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Hey All,

I need some advice regarding a sort of inconvenient situation. I work 9:30-5:30 everyday in Manhattan, but I live on the outskirts of Manhattan, which means I am spending an hour and a half on the train each way every day.

That's about 3 hours a day on the train. Yes. I know.

I spend a majority of that time reviewing LSAT materials, in addition to whatever I can get in at work during my lunch break. But I never feel like I've gotten enough review in (if it's even possible to feel that way...). Mostly because the train during rush hour is not the most conducive environment for intensive LSAT review. I do what I can, but studying for hour increments, spread throughout the day does not exactly give me enough time to hit my optimal level of engagement with the material. So I clearly need to figure something out...

(Weekends are also mainly dedicated to review, as well as certain week nights. More on this below)

Now to the exercise part. I am sitting for 8 hours a day at work and another 3 hours on the train. I am an decently active person, so physical exercise is important to me. My hobby is rock climbing, so I do a lot of indoor rock climbing to keep my body engaged. Its mentally exciting as well as physically challenging, so I see it as a psychological release as well. I do some occasional yoga as well.

Okay so now back to the timing issue... considering I get home around 7:30pm, going to work out basically takes up the rest of my night. I'll end up getting home at 9:30pm and then...well...there's that early AM train I have to catch so I have to get to bed shortly after.

I'm willing to give up rock climbing during my LSAT prep if it's going to benefit me (I will cry every step of the way...but I will do it). My question is...will it? Physical exercise seems to be a common thread among top scorers and that's where I am aiming. I also don't climb everyday- I usually dedicate 2 weeknights to climbing and then a couple hours on Saturdays. It sort of comes down to what will benefit me more and I'm honestly not sure. I've considered other forms of "quicker" exercise like taking up running, but the idea of that makes me cringe (clearly not a runner...) and I don't see how that would give me significantly more time to study. Plus there's the whole "mental release" benefit to doing something I actually enjoy...

I should also follow up with the fact that the time I do put into study has been immensely productive. My understanding of the material has grown significantly. My contention is more because I know that I have the capacity to be learning more than I currently am (because of my limited time), so that is frustrating. All that to say, I could technically just keep doing what I'm doing and probably hit my goal score eventually...but I know I can hit it a lot quicker if I didn't have so many time constraints.

So I guess I'm just asking for cost benefit analyses. How important is physical exercise in your prep and do you foresee any catastrophic consequences if I decide to fully embrace the sedentary life? Do you think it's likely that the extra time will benefit me more than exercise?

Thanks in advance :)

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It seems JY recommends copying the game board for questions that give you new premises

Like: if a question says "if M is in lane 4, what might be true?" then you would make a mini game board and put M in 4, then add whatever deductions you can from M being in 4.

To me it seems much faster and less cluttered to write the permanent rules, board, and deduction in highlighter, and the temporary ones in pencil. Then after each question, you can just scrub the entire board area with your eraser, instantly deleting all the work that is local to one question.

Of course, the con is that you don't save information about previous questions, chiefly examples of hypotheticals that "could be true". My gut feeling though is that this is only useful on about 10% of games, and the speed/clarity gains from not having to recopy the board over and over outweigh the loss of that benefit.

Anyone else have a perspective on this, or a preference one way or the other?

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Can I rip off pieces of the page? I don't mean stuff with text on it, just blank margins.

I would like to cover the bubbles from previously-completed sections while working, to minimize the probability of accidentally mis-bubbling.

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Last comment monday, jan 09 2017

Degree date

Hi,

Quick question...

I'm purchasing and creating CAS now, and I'm wondering, if I finished my graduate courses on December and attended graduation ceremony on the following May,

which date should I put, May or December?

Surprised to see we cannot edit info after we confirm it, so I'm kind of cautious...

Thank you!

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Last comment monday, jan 09 2017

Logical Reasoning

Can someone please further explain "the gap/ support" between the premise and the conclusion????

I need more clarity because this is really impeding my performance.

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