After nervously waiting for my December LSAT results on Tuesday, which were exactly as bad as I expected, I proceeded to drink away my problems with some friends. I had so much alcohol (a third of a bottle of whiskey and about 8-10 shots of Tito's vodka) that my best friend annihilated me in FIFA 6-0, after which I puked on myself and his sofa mid-nap. I managed to drunkenly stumble my way home at 2am.

I woke up six hours later, vommed my brains out some more, and had to take the day off from work because of "food poisoning." I spent the entire day curled up in pain shirtless on the floor of my bathroom, utterly unable to shake off the worst hangover of my life.

I share this story to assure you that no matter how disappointing your LSAT score was, it could always be worse - at least you didn't publicly and privately humiliate yourself immediately after finding it out! So here's to attaining glory, redemption, and a social life in June.

Hello,

I took the December LSAT. For the top school that I want to attend, my LSAT score is within the range of scores admitted to their school and my GPA is above their MEDIAN. During my practice test, I had an obnoxious proctor(https://classic.7sage.com/forums/discussion/9671/my-nerves-got-to-me-for-the-first-section#latest) which resulted in me having a nervous break down during the first section. For like ten minutes, I was on the same question over and over again. Fortunately, I recovered and the other four sections I did well on. I was hoping the first section was the experimental but it was not, in fact, had the first section been the experimental and the third section been real, my score would have been astronomically better. Due to this, I have registered to take the Feb LSAT. I am continuing to practice and am confident my score this time around will be better than in December. However, my top choice sent me an email saying that put my application on hold since i am retaking the lsat in February. Feb LSAT scores wont be returned into March and I am afraid that if I wait to long, it will be harder to get in. Should i take the application off hold and have them evaluate me now? My score is below their median but within range and my GPA is above their median.

Hey all!

If anyone has received accommodations on the LSAT, would you send me a PM (if that isn't too much to ask!).... I have a couple of quick Q's:)

Hi everyone, pretty new to 7Sage, it's my first time using it, so can anybody kindly let me know where I can find the practice tests? I already did some prior studying on the test, and want to take a practice one to see where I stand and what I need to work on. Can someone let me know where to I can find them? Thanks in advance.

I am very uninformed about the entire process, and I would appreciate any help or suggestions.

I deferred admissions last fall at the in-state flagship where I currently work in secondary education. I received a small scholarship to a school that is ranked around 90, but the dominant school in the state I am 75-80% likely to practice. My December score only improved 3 points, but I am now nine points higher than their 75th, though below their 50th in GPA. However, I have a good story since undergrad and the ability to tell it well. I do not know if they will offer more with the marginal improvement.

I was accepted early admissions last month to a neighboring flagship ranked around 35. They are the second strongest school in the state where I reside, physically closer to the city where I would most like to live than the in-state school, and obviously stronger in 49 other states. Due to a childhood move from current state, I lived there for public middle and high school, college (at a small religious school), and even my first job. None of my family currently lives there.

My score is 2-3 points higher than their 75th, but GPA is right at their 25th. They claim "holistic admissions", and GPA minus one semester jumps substantially, plus I have heard it's much easier to find high GPA than high test admits.

Should I be able to at least negotiate in-state tuition? If so, how do I go about doing so?

I appreciate any guidance. I made a couple of misteps early on due to finding 7Sage late, and lack access to an undergrad advisor or anyone close to me who was been through anything similar.

I did not. Details can be found elsewhere on 7Sage regarding test center issue, but I basically knew it affected me on one section.

I missed more on that section than on the other three combined. As a result, I am 5 points from simulated test average with a score that is an outlier among my last fifteen. Cruised through three of four sections with time to spare and on pace for my goal, then fell two points short of my minimum satisfaction threshold.

Also, screw the University of South Carolina test center and their test director.

For some strange reason, I find myself preforming better on passages that have less questions (5-6), regardless of difficulty. I use the same methods for all passages.

Has anyone noticed this?

Can someone give me some pointers that may help me do better with passages with more questions?

I feel like this is a dumb question but I'm just curious. If you guys have unanswered questions when taking a prep test, are you guys guessing? Say you have 2 mins left and have 3 unanswered questions, are you guys leaving them blank? I leave them blank in order to get an accurate diagnostic. Just wondering what others are doing. I know for the actual test it's best to just guess if you have questions remaining, but what about our preps?

I find abstract FL AC's to be quite a hassle on the LSAT. Usually I POE it down to one answer, which feels right, but I don't work through the FL if I feel it'd be a super time sink. So I BR and work it out then (now). I'm talking about AC B here, "No migraine sufferers with heart disease will take the new medication except under careful medical supervision." The no makes it a not both relationship: IF MIG sufferer w/ HD -> NOT take medication. The "except" gets translated to an IF NOT, which now becomes a joint sufficient condition: IF NOT under supervision.

SO, in total:

IF MIG sufferer w/ HD

+ -> NOT take medication

IF NOT under supervision

How is my methodology?

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-21-section-2-question-03/

So I'm not happy with my December score and average a much higher score than I received....reason I messed up was I hardly got 2 hours of sleep night before so my eyes were liter ly closing on the most important test ever... now question is can I submit an app without an lsat and is that an advantage over waiting to send when lsat comes.... or is this evenpossible ? Please help

I read in the past in some 180er's blog that he used to do a LG section before each PT to warm up. So I started doing that. 1 section of LG, usually an old one, about an hour before starting my PT (to simulate waiting in the test center to start).

Now I read on a discussion here (not naming names, but @Sami says that she warms up with 3 sections before each PT (1 LR, 1 LG, 1 RC). I was really surprised, hence this post. I would honestly try warming up with 3 sections before each PT, but I find I get a headache during the 3/4th section and I am pretty beat by the end of the 5th. I don't know if I could handle more than that. You think it is just a stamina thing that I need to work on? How much do you all warm up? And what are you with/without warming up PT scores? Noticeable difference? Especially @Sami , I'd like to hear how you go about doing a PT run. Any comments appreciated!

Hi, I am looking to take the LSAT in June of 2017 and want to start studying now. I have already took the June 2007 diagnostic test and scored a 157. I wish to score in the mid 170's and intend to dedicate significant time towards this. Any tips? My weakest point on the diagnostic was LR- just fyi.

For the question, "Have you ever been subject to academic warning, probation or suspension at a school, college, university or other educational institution?" is that talking about academic related issues after high school? I was suspended in high school for uploading some pictures online. I tagged one guy's name in the pictures(like what people do on Facebook) and I didn't get his consent so his family threatened to sue the school if the school didn't punish me even though I took down pictures with him in it when he asked me to(or according to this student friends, the school punished me on their own because the student "didn't ask" the school to punish me). The school accused me of putting the student "in danger" which I thought was ridiculous because people tag other people in online pictures all the time. Most importantly, I did not get any criminal charges for this.

With this context, would I have to disclose this?

Creating this thread to quell some of the anxiety. ;) Will be updated when it's actually Grey Day.

Feel free to chat here about it.

Hello, 7Sage. I took the September test, and the December test (My score dropped for the December test :( ), and I'm planning for another retake by June or September. My account expires in about three days, and I'm interested in buying the PT 79 Explanation to extend my account, but it seems like the explanation is not up yet. Should I go ahead and just extend my account and not wait for the explanation? Thanks so much!

Hi There everyone. I will be taking the February LSAT. Usually LSAC publishes the PAST LSAC for purchase before the New LSAT. So for example the December Exam would be available for purchase before you take the February LSAT. I just called LSAC and they said because the time interval between December and February is so close that they dont have time to publish before the February Exam.

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I know, I know, another cheesy THX7SAGE post. BUT! I want to share my story since I'm NOT one of the people aiming to get into a T14 school, to let you know that it is okay to be THRILLED with less than a 170 (no offense to everyone who worked their booty patooty off to get to a 170, hat's off to you, seriously). Here goes....

Last May, I decided I wanted to be a lawyer. I bought a GIANT Kaplan book and began reading it during my lunch breaks. I remember thinking to myself, "Gosh almighty, this book is boring, and large, but if I can just get through it the LSAT will be mine!!!" I sporadically studied during the summer. In August, I got called to go with the Red Cross down to Louisiana to help with the flood relief for 2 weeks. I still had approx. 1/3 of the book left, and the September test was fast approaching. I brought the book with me hoping to study, but with 12 hour days and staying in a staff shelter sleeping on cots, there wasn't any 'quiet' time to do so. I returned home with the same amount of the book left and only 2 weeks to the test. I forced myself to finish the book and thought that was it!! And.....I sat for the September test and made a 153.

I honestly thought that it was a good score (it certainly isn't horrible), but went to talk to a professor at my school of choice who advised me to re-take in December to get at least a 157 to truly be competitive. So, I did a bunch of online research and found 7sage (Almost fell for the $1,000+ Kaplan online course LOL). I studied as much as I could. During this time, I was also working 40+ hours a week, and several personal things were going on that sometimes made it hard to concentrate, and made me want to give up entirely. But, I did not. And here I am to tell you that in December I got a 159. I am competitive for my school. And I am thrilled.

So, new 7sagers, here's to you. If I can improve by 6 points in the most stressful months of my life, working 40+ a week, you can too. If you have more than 3 months, are not working 40+ a week, and are not stressed, just IMAGINE the possibilities! Everyone is different and learns at a different rate, but keep at it. Work the program (now I sound like I'm at AA lol). I believe in you, you are in an incredibly supportive community, and most importantly, you are capable.

Much love, and so THANKFUL to be done with this test!! (One day you'll be done, too!)

I understand the 7sage method of improving on games (referring to the flowchart that is mentioned in the core curriculum) but I find that over the last 6 months I haven't improved at all on logic games. The only pattern I've come across with my scores on this section is that usually I can get 2/4 games but the remaining 2 I'm completely lost.

After I watch the video explanations I can re-create in the inferences very quickly, but then when I go onto the next prep-test I run into the same thing; 2/4 games I can do, but take too long to complete, then I end up having to guess and bomb two games. This process is something that has been on rinse and repeat for the last while and I want to know what am I doing wrong? It doesn't feel like I'm benefiting at all from the 7sage method to master games, as my understanding of games is still so low; its feels as if I'm making the inferences out of memory of the video not so much my understanding of how the game boards/pieces are operating.

Any advice on what I should do differently would be greatly appreciated, thanks in advance.

Note: It could also just be that I'm an idiot

I just want to say a huge thanks to JY, Dillon, and everyone in the 7Sage community and share my story.

When I started studying for the LSAT at the end of June, I'd been out of school for six years and just a couple of weeks out of the end of a serious relationship. The entire prospect of applying for law school (and studying for the LSAT) was really daunting and intimidating.

I signed up for the Ultimate course with the intention of studying pretty much full time (ended up doing some odd jobs for a couple of months and doing some stuff on the side when I wasn't studying) to take the exam in September. As September approached I wasn't where I wanted to be, and after consulting with folks on these forums, decided to wait until December. I did a total of 16 timed PTs with BR (not including my diagnostic, which was a 157). By test day my average was a 164, with a high score of 170 (only once). I also watched many of the webinars.

I took a PT the Monday before test day and scored a 160 (one of my lowest). I took the rest of the week off, kind of resigned to not being able to reach my goal of 170, but did the best I could to get myself in a good head space before Test Day.

On test day things felt really good - better than any of the PTs I'd taken over the previous months. I was just in a great place mentally and came away feeling good about the whole thing.

Tonight I got my score back and scored a 170! I'm so happy and relieved to be done with this test.

For anyone who is intimidated at any point in this process, don't give in or let your discouragement last long - you can do it! Work your way through the curriculum, take your PTs under timed conditions, BR honestly so you're learning from each take, fool proof the games to the best of your ability, and turn to this community frequently as you assess what's working for you and what isn't. If there's anything I can do to help others down this path, don't hesitate to ask!

I also want to especially thank @Cant_Get_Right, @montaha.rizeq and @Alex_Divine for being so active and positive on these message boards while I was going through this.

1 month to go!

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Hope to hear you there!

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The Full Schedule for Feb Test Takers

12pm EST, Wednesday, December 28, 2016 - PT 74

12pm EST, Wednesday, January 4, 2016 - PT 75

12pm EST, Wednesday, January 11, 2016 - PT 76

12pm EST, Monday, January 16, 2016 - PT 77

12pm EST, Thursday, January 19, 2016 - PT 78

12pm EST, Wednesday, January 25, 2016 - PT 79

12pm EST, Wednesday, February 1, 2016 - PT 80

Google Calendar: Coming soon!

Note:

I was working 50 hours a week, while preparing for the test. Not a very high score, but it's enough to get me in where I want to go. With the help of lsat I was able to improve 12 points from my PTs. Thanks to 7Sage and thanks you guys!

The dude abides.

Dude

This was my first LSAT, my goal was 175, I ended up getting 177, and I am beyond happy! I couldn't have done it without 7sage's LG guides.

For people who are curious, my diagnostic was somewhere around 162-166, timed. My worst section at first by far was LG.

I studied intensely around 1.5 to 2 months, took a 1 month break, then spent 1 month doing a few practice tests a week. Prior to the test, my PT score average was around 175.

To study, I used the LSAT Trainer and 7sage for LG. I later also bought ACE The LSAT Logic Games book for practice (I didn't use the techniques, I just did the games for warmup and practice). I started with the LSAT Trainer techniques, then changed my LG techniques to 7sage's after.

Also, the Blind Review sessions hosted by JY are invaluable. Make sure you go to those for at least one practice test; I went to almost all the sessions for PT 78, and it helped so much even though it was right before the actual test date. I didn't realize how little I understood about each answer choice until I had to explain it to other people.

Thanks again 7sage, you guys are the best, and you probably helped me get into my dream law school!

First of all, congratulations to everyone who took the December 2016 LSAT..for taking it alone you are so brave and I admire you all so much. So many people got the score they deserved (for those in this category Yay!!) and some didn't (for those in this category, you are not a failure or dumb or stupid), so please do not beat yourself up...the good news is you can retake and improve vastly from your last score.

You are all entitiled to take a break, even if it is just for a day...and when you return, this community will still and always be here for you.

My break recommendation:

1) Eat lots of chocolate (who can ever go wrong with chocolate)

2) Drink lots of wine or whatever drink you prefer

3) Sleep (Catch up on all the lost hours of sleep)

4) Binge watch a show (All those shows you put aside till after the LSAT..this is the time)

5) Go outside and breathe in clean air, and just take a walk

6) Read books (Nothing LSAT related...for just one day at least)

7) Do something that makes you happy (If it's LSAT related...do the second best thing that makes you happy)

8) Play (video) games or whatever game you are into

Just take some time off to recharge, and when you think you are in a better place...return to the tackle the LSAT with a stronger zeal and a peace of mind. This journey is not an easy one, but there will come a time when you become that attorney you've always wanted to be and the LSAT will be a thing of the past. Once again, congratulations to every single one of you...I'm so encouraged and proud of this community :)

Hello everyone,

I was just wondering,

When is usually the last day when we receive notice from schools that we apply?

School starts on August, right?

Will we be able to find out all results by April?

Or can some results arrive on May and after?

Thank you!

what is an lsat score band and should i care?