My fellow June Test-takers!

Please take a look at this tentative schedule below and comment your thoughts/revisions. I also have a TON of “notes” that I’d like you to consider. Please leave any thoughts about them in the comments below. You should also add me on Skype. My username is dmlevine76 .

NOTE: We’re trying to organize some 2-3-Hour interactive workshops with 7Sage tutors during the month of December. They’ll be on specific fundamental topics like Blind Review, Finding Assumptions/Flaws, and Active Reading. Be on the lookout for another discussion within the next week as we try to organize this. However, if you are interested in attending, please say so in the comments below. Also, if you’d like to suggest a topic, leave that info in the comments section. It’s all new, so we’re trying to make sure we’re matching up supply with demand. If they’re successful, I’d like to continue them into January.

NOTE: We’re starting at PT 29 because we have so many extra weeks. It’s true that many of the questions from the problem sets will be in these tests, so we really need to take those scores with a grain of salt. That being said, it’s still good practice.

NOTE: I front-loaded the PT 70s for Fridays because I believe that people need to get eyes on 70s sooner rather than later. We’ll still have PT 77 available to PT in May. Trust me when I say it is worth it to do these tests twice.

NOTE: Friday’s attendance has been hit-or-miss. I’ve been considering I AM changing Group BR days to Tuesday-Thurssday-Saturday. Tuesday and LSATurday would be the regularly scheduled tests and Thursday will be the “wildcard” day. Please leave your thoughts in the comments.

Note:

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JUNE TEST GROUP.

We’ll now use GoToMeeting for all of our Group BR needs. Simply click this link to join the scheduled BR: https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/239503069.(/h1)

All times are PST

Very Tentative Schedule

Wed Dec 16, 2015 5 pm June LSAT BR Group PT 29

Sat Dec 19, 2015 1 p m June LSAT BR Group RC question types

Sat Dec 19, 2015 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 30

Tues Dec 22, 2015 5 p m June LSAT BR Group - Principle Questions (@c.janson35 & @nicole.hopkins) -

Wed Dec 23, 2015 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 31

Fri Dec 25, 2015 - CHRISTMAS

Sat Dec 26, 2015 1 p m June LSAT BR Group Assumption/Flaw (@blah170blah)

Sat Dec 26, 2015 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 32

Tues Dec 29, 2015 - 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 33

Fri Jan 1, 2016 All day New Year's Day

Sat Jan 2, 2016 5 p m June LSAT BR Group PT 34

Tues, Jan 5, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 35

Thurs Jan 7, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group TBA

Sat Jan 9, 2016 5 p m June LSAT BR Group PT 36

Tues Jan 12, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 37

Thurs Jan 14, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group TBA

Sat Jan 16, 2016 June LSAT BR Group PT 38

Tues Jan 19, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 39

Fri Jan 22, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group 70

Sat Jan 23, 2016 June LSAT BR Group PT 40

Tues Jan 26, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 41

Thurs Jan 28, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group 71

Sat Jan 30, 2016 June LSAT BR Group PT 42

Tues Feb 2, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 43

Thurs Feb 4, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 44

Sat Feb 6, 2016 5 p m June LSAT BR Group PT 72

Tues Feb 9, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 45

Thurs Feb 11, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 46

Sat Feb 13, 2016 5 p m June LSAT BR Group PT 73

Tues Feb 16, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 47

Thurs, Feb 18, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 48

Sat Feb 20, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 74

Tues Feb 23, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 49

Thurs Feb 25, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 50

Sat Feb 27, 2016 5 p m June LSAT BR Group PT 70

Tues Mar 1, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 51

Thurs Mar 3, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT52

Sat Mar 5, 2016 5 p m June LSAT BR Group PT 71

Tues Mar 8, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT53

Thurs Mar 10, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT54

Sat Mar 12, 2016 5 p m June LSAT BR Group 72

Tues Mar 15 , 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT55

Thurs Mar 17, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT56

Sat Mar 19, 2016 5 p m June LSAT BR Group 73

Tues Mar 22, 2016 5 p m June LSAT BR Group PT57

Thurs Mar 24, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT58

Sat Mar 26, 2016 5 p m June LSAT BR Group 74

Tues Mar 29, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 59

Thurs Mar 31, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 60

Sat Apr 2, 2016 5 p m June LSAT BR Group 75

Tues Apr 5, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 61

Thurs Apr 7, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT62

Sat Apr 9, 2016 5 p m June LSAT BR Group 76

Tues Apr 12, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT63

Thurs Apr 14, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR GroupPT64

Sat Apr 16, 2016 5 p m June LSAT BR Group 77

Tues Apr 19, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT65

Thurs Apr 21, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT66

Sat Apr 23, 2016 5 p m June LSAT BR Group TBA

Tues Apr 26, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 67

Thurs Apr 28, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 68

Sat Apr 30, 2016 5 p m June LSAT BR Group TBA

Tues May 3, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 69

Thurs May 5, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 70

Sat May 7, 2016 5 p m June LSAT BR Group TBA

Tues May 10, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 71

Thurs May 12, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 72

Sat May 14, 2016 5 p m June LSAT BR Group TBA

Tues May 17, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 73

Thurs May 19, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 74

Sat May 21, 2016 5 p m June LSAT BR Group TBA

Tues May 24, 2016 5 p m June LSAT BR Group PT 75

Thurs May 26, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT76

Sat May 28, 2016 5 p m June LSAT BR Group TBA

Tues May 31, 2016 5 p m June LSAT BR Group PT 77

Thurs Jun 2, 2016 5 p m June LSAT BR Group TBA

Sat Jun 4, 2016 5 p m June LSAT BR Group PEP RALLY

MON JUNE 6, 2016 1:00 LSAT Actual

With 2 months until February, I'm at low 160s(163) most recent. Want to hit 70. I know it's attainable. What's a good schedule to run while not getting burned out? Usually I study every day till i can no longer comprehend a stimulus without being like, "wtf did I just read?!"

I'm taking the December LSAT this weekend in Munich, Germany. I foolishly assumed my test would be in the morning, but it turns out I don't have to be there until 2pm. Does anyone have any advice as to how I should spend my morning/lunch? Should I wake up early to study? Practice a few sections? Drink coffee? Relax and walk around town? Any insight is much appreciated.

Hello,

Can someone please explain to me what's wrong with this argument?

Con: The amount of sleep one gets has minimal correlation to the amount of anxiety and depression he or she feels

Prem: A study showed that the top 5% of sleepers have the same level of anxiety and depression as those who are the bottom 5%

Here's the passage:

A study recently published in a leading magazine showed that, surprisingly, those who are in the top 5 percent in terms of the amount of sleep they get daily, have on average, about the same level of anxiety and depression as those who are in the bottom 5%. This proves conclusively that the amount of sleep one gets has minimal correlation to the amount of anxiety and depression one feels?

What's wrong with this argument and or support?

I have not taken any of the PT's in the 60's or 70's except for PT62. As far as games go I do not want to miss something because I have never even seen a game like it, although I am sure it will still happen. What I mean by this is that the Circle game (for instance) is very unique so I have made sure I really have that game down. Are there any other games types that don't follow our normal set-ups? Also has their been any type of trend for games in the later PT'S? My last week I am really only going over stuff I want to review but am doing games games from Pt's that I have not seen yet in the lower PT Range <30. So anything dire I should see games wise in the most recent 25 PT's?

As always thank you. Hope everyone had a great thanksgiving

Just curious figured someone has to know why.

From the stimulus, I got two conditional statements:

1) knowingly brings about misfortune --> should be blamed

2) not knowingly brings about misfortune --> should not be blamed

But because of the "for example" part, am I supposed to add "could not have reasonably have foreseen it" to the sufficient part of the 2nd cond'l statement I wrote above?

Also, Can anyone please explain why (A) is wrong?

Can I interpret "it did not occur to Riley" in (A) as "not knowingly brings about misfortune?"

Hi all,

I hope someone may be able to clue me in as to what I'm doing wrong with this problem. This is a MBT.

Special kinds of cotton that grow fibers of green or brown have been around since the 1930s but only recently became commercially feasible when a long-fibered variety that can be spun by machine was finally bred. Since the cotton need not be dyed, processing plants avoid the expense of dyeing and the ecological hazards of getting rid of leftover dye and by-products.

So I understood how to diagram the stimulus. "Spun by machine --> commercially viable"

When I looked at answer choice (B): Green and brown cottons that can be spun only by hand are not commercially viable" I diagrammed it as "Spun by hand --> /commercially viable". In order to get to answer choice (B), you would need to negate the sufficient and necessary which gives "/Spun by machine --> /commercially viable" which is an invalid argument form (mistake in negation).

What am I doing wrong? I am having a hard time seeing how answer choice (B) can be diagrammed as "/commercially viable -->spun by hand" Thanks!

Hey Everyone!

I will be withdrawing from the December test by Monday. I will likely register for the June or October test. That said, I think a major problem for me, and likely part of the reason I have to withdraw from the December test, was burnout.

I studied for 10+ hours a day, 7 days a week, for around 4.5 months. By the 4th month, I was drained. I did see a decent improvement (20 points, +-5), but tanked on my last PT.

That said, how should I plan out my breaks? 1 day off per week? Half day off on Sundays? Other suggestions are welcome.

When using the fool proof method for LG, should I be doing the games in groups? For instance, 6 grouping games on week 1, 6 hybrid games on week 2, etc. Or, pick a few random games and do them, then use the fool proof method. The latter makes more sense, since the actual test is not ordered by game-type.

Random question: When you guys grade your PTs, do you count the questions that you guessed on? In other words, do you input them into the grader, and count them towards your final, scaled score? It makes sense that you would, but then again guessing is hit or miss - for instance, on 1 test I blindly guessing 9 questions right, on another, only 3 of my blind guesses were correct.

Thank you!

Hi all,

I've been studying since June, and have been scoring fairly consistently into the 170s within the last 3 months. My average is about a 173. Within the last 3 weeks, I've taken LSATs 72, 73, and 74, and I've seen my lowest scores yet (168, 169, and 167, respectively.)

I'm really freaking out about this, and I just can't believe this is a fluke since it's happened over the past 3 tests. My scores on LG for these tests was below average (at least -3) because I thought the games were unusual or tricky. However, I've also seen decreases in my RC (I usually get -2) and LR (I'm getting above -4 now.)

I can't tell if this is burn out, stress, or all of the above, but I need to decide whether I'm taking the test this Saturday. I already postponed taking the October test.

What do you all think?

Pretty clueless on this one. I narrowed the answer to B or C during the exam, and I couldn't do any better during BR. Turns out, the answer is E :/ Can someone break down all of the answer choices? Even though I got rid of A and D, I'm not convinced that I got rid of them with good reasoning.

Stranger is same age- MOST feel comfortable approaching that stranger. Long term friendship start MOST someone felt comfortable approaching a stranger. Therefore, long term friends probably the same age.

What I am looking for: No clue. I don't really understand the argument with this one. Can any of the diagrams link up (not that it really matters)? JY does it in the videos, but I don't see how the approaching the stranger ideas are the same thing. Here is the video: http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-61-section-4-question-24/

Hello,

I am taking the December LSAT. This week I plan on taking PT72 and PT 74 I am debating if I should take PT75 OR PT76 as my last PT for the week. PT76 is a great indicator of how I might score on the December test, but I have been unable to find explanations for the test thus far. Should I take PT75 since I can just buy the 7sage explanations?

Thank you,

Does anyone else think this PT was particularly difficult? It seemed like there were a ton of questions that more people put the wrong answer than the right, and I usually don't see that many on the LSAT Analytics like that. The RC really threw me off, and the second LR section. I'm taking the Dec test, and I guess I want to see if it's really just me.

Changed my answer during the exam from D to A, but only because of POE. I still don't really understand how D is a sufficient assumption.

This is a PSA question.

Although we have learned a lot, we are ignorant of a lot of things dealing with organisms. Allowing species that we are indifferent about to die would hurt the viability of other species. Therefore, if we have an interest in preserving any species, we should try to preserve the maximum number of species.

What I am looking for: If allowing a species that we are indifferent about to perish might undermine the viability of other species→we should preserve the max number of species.

Answer A: I fell for this bullshit answer. This just affirms the sufficient condition in the conclusion. It does nothing to address the relationship between the premise and conclusion.

Answer B: I think the passage implies the opposite. If we held action to this high of a standard, then how would prevent the death of a species that we are indifferent about?

Answer C: Human populations? Totally irrelevant.

Answer D: I was pretty iffy with this one, even when I changed it during BR. This states Allow change→Change won't jeopardize anything important to us. I am really having a tough time seeing how this paraphrases what I was looking for, though. How are these ideas relevant to the stimulus? Where is the idea of something being important mentioned in the stimulus?

Answer E: Best consequence for immediate future? Irrelevant idea.

I am currently grading practice tests at 156 hoping to increase my score by 10 points wanted to hear what helped others. I plan to take the June 2016 test :)

Hi all,

I have been seriously studying for the LSAT since about the beginning of July. I joined 7Sage pretty late, at around the beginning of August. I hurried through the curriculum and due to parental demands, took the October LSAT and scored a 155. Since then I have been PTing and BRing but have not seen an improvement in my scores.

I desperately want to go to law school; I have some exposure to the field and I loved every minute of it. However, my parents simply won't allow me to postpone the test/application process any longer. At least, not with their continued support.

I have a good GPA (can disclose if needed) and I know what a good LSAT score could do for my future.

I suppose my question is this: Do I suck it up, get a mediocre score, get into a mediocre school and try to transfer? Or is it really worth it to postpone the test again, disappoint the parents, but put myself in a better place for the future? I am currently in my gap year (graduated in May), so this would mean taking another year and waiting until Fall of 17 to enter school, as I understand it.

Quick Breakdown: - Taking the LSAT next Saturday, Dec. 5th.

A. BIGGEST ISSUE i am having- Reading Comprehension: -as my RC scores on PT's high-50's & low-60's has improved, my Reading Comprehension section on PT's mid60's to early 70's has significantly dropped. I'm aware the RC got a little tougher, as it has been widely supported on this forum by most test takers. STUCK IN A SERIOUS PICKLE. Here is it

-I've tried 7sage's 'memory retention method' - didnt do much for me. Although I have attempted roughly 40 passages with this, and it has DEFINITELY improved my memory retention, it hasn't given me that edge I need to go -10 or -9

-I've tried the blueprint/testmasters method (tag the heck out of the passage.. box this, circle that, underline this, etc)- takes WAY too long and i get nothing done. I get way too caught up tagging up the passage that the reasoning structure and the change in directions completely blow passed me. It works for others, but it is simply not for me.

-I've tried a private tutor's method: Attempt only 2 or 3 Passages, go for accuracy, and hopefully you'll be -10 minimum -- I got the accuracy, however it is mathematically IMPOSSIBLE to hit a 160 while attempting only 2 or 3 passages. -What i've been trying to do: Read for reasoning structure, bracket each paragraph, and write a note if I see a main Point, big statement from the author, Conclusion, or hypothesis + if there's a hypothesis that is offered in support/against the first one.

*** Any insight towards anything will be much appreciated ***

B. The cute little twist in the LG section on the recent PT's changed my score from 159/160 to 156. (instead of going -3/-4 im at -7 [on average]. PT's: 67,68,69,70. --Any insight on how to master the cute little twists? i've done every games over until i have perfect them all; attempted each one until i went -0 for each game in under 8:30min.

Thus far, Most of the insight received on 7sage has been AMAZING. lets keep it going.

(Realistic) TARGET SCORE - 160.

breakdown of last PT -

Section1(LR)- -9

Section2(RC)- -14*** :'(

Section3(LG)- -6

Section4(LR2)- -7

Hi all:

I've noticed my LG score change from -3/-4 to -7 (on average) for PT's 67, 68, 70. Now, I know the more recent PT's are a tad different (some games have a cute little twist in them); nonetheless, this increase in incorrect answers just took me from a 159/160 to a 156 :(

The issue presented is that I DO NOT want to touch the games on the remaining PT's (71-75), Since i am taking those this week-

I've done the fool-proof method to perfect the questions missed on the games attempted in PT's 67-70, but i am looking for a better way to secure me mastering those 'cute little twists' the games got me on.

Any insight?

Taking the December LSAT.

Hi everyone, I initially planned on taking the December LSAT. However, I recently decided to postpone the test until June 2016 to better prepare for the exam. My recommenders have already submitted their letters for this cycle via the LSAC website. I am going to let them know shortly that I will be applying for the next application cycle. Do you know if the letters are saved in my LSAC account for use in the next cycle or do they need to re-submit for the next cycle? Thanks so much for your help!

I am wondering whether I should withdraw from the December test or to go ahead and just take it. My pt scores are around 168 and with my gpa below the medians at HYS, I need a 172 at least. I am hoping maybe the adrenaline of test day will give me a 5 point boost at least. Tonight I was -7 on the two LR sections combined, -3 on LG and -3 on RC. On test day, can I get to -2 on LR combined and -1 on RC and LG? Or should I swallow my pride and keep plugging away till June? I was planning on applying next fall anyway so there is no particular rush. But I thought I could get the test done now with 172+ score and confidently approach next fall's cycle. What do you wise folk think?

If I decide to retake a PT that I have already taken just to rewrite and re-evaluate, is there a function for that?

It would be great to compare my previous score to my new one if that was possible.

Thanks in advance

Hey all,

I was doing fairly well on my LSAT prep, scoring upwards towards the 170s. However, having taken PT 72 and 73 my score has dropped dramatically down towards the lower 160s. At this point I want to put off this test till the next one offered after December. LR and RC were always my weakest, and I'm pretty certain they've gotten wordier and more difficult. I still have PT 74, 75, 76 left.. all advice welcome... I need it :-/

Hello,

6ish months ago I took my diagnostic and got a 149. Slowly I made my way through the curriculum and last weekend's PT was a 163, BR was at 173. This has been pretty consistent for me (Only 5 PT in). LR was -5/-6 LG was -3 and RC was -8. I need close to if not a 170 to get into the school I am aiming for. I am pretty confident I can get LG down to -1 or 0, but I don't know how much improvement I can make in LR and RC because when I BR'd it took me anywhere from 10 to 15 minutes per question to arrive at the correct answers for questions I circled. Any strategies for LR and especially RC improvement would be appreciated. Looking to write either February or June of 2016.

I tried watching a couple lessons on my iPad for the first time and found that videos tend to load very slowly/not at all. Does anyone know if a certain browser works best, or if there's a way to improve the load time on an iPad?

How often should I be doing the prep test with the proctor and everything? I did the one that was embedded into the course in the first or second week, but noticed there aren't any more until the end. Should I be doing them through the curriculum or wait until I've completed it?