First things first, hello. I am very new to this site, and I found it while scrounging the net for any resources I could get my mitts on. That said, I have a question for any willing and/or able to help.

I know a lot of my weaknesses when I take this test, and I know how to fight a lot of them. For example, I panic when I see the ticking clock, but that can be conditioned out. The main problem I've been having is that while I've been studying for the better part of 3 months (with just shy of 2 to go), it seems like a lot of my practice just churns up the same undesirable results. I check my answers regularly and review helpful question strategies but seem to keep slipping up on stupid, easily avoidable mistakes. Maybe I am simply not cut out for this test, but suffice it to say I refuse to accept that.

To avoid this conclusion, I'd like to know what method(s), shifts in point of view, study regiment changes, and all other such alterations that might have helped you break through to a better grade the most effectively.

Thanks much in advance for any insight you might offer.

https://www.reddit.com/r/LSAT/comments/3nqa0l/my_lsat_farewell/

Thought I would share a post I wrote this morning on Reddit. Thanks for all of the support and motivation from this 7sage community, all of your input and advice helped make this test so much more than just a test for me. Hope some of what I wrote can motivate some of you to working a little harder, because that hard work will pay off. Hooooorah to all those test takers who finished up their studies with me on Saturday, and best of luck to all those future test takers, take this test as an opportunity and grab it by the horns!!

I had a hard time with this question. What tripped me up was the year/5,000/films/novels/other books. Can some one clarify step by step how to solve this question?

So I did about 8 games today and maybe 3-4 I made the dumbest mistakes and didn't catch them until AC just weren't working right for me. Each time I noticed that a rule would say something like P is in the same group as S. W and Y cannot be in the same group as G, but I'll actually write a completely different letter that's sometimes not even part of the game! Or I'm reading W but I'll write with complete confidence Y. Like wth!! I'm not even burned out. I took a break Saturday and Sunday. I noticed I kept doing the same crap so I was more focused on reading the rules the next time around. The rule said must and I swear I read can't, or vice versa!!! What in the world is happening here??!

Firstly, I am in Canada. Since there are some universities who have a deadline for November 1st, should I apply now or wait? The reason I ask this is because, I just wrote the October LSAT (It was my first time) and I am really not sure how I did. If I apply now then I either have to mention that they look at the marks for October LSAT or the December one. However I don't want to write December, if my October mark is fine and I don't want to write my October LSAT as the determiner if it's not that good. I know that most people write a second time, so should I play it safe and submit my application now with the December LSAT or should I wait till October 26-28 when I know my October results and then apply within those days dependent on the score I get. I am also worried that If I wait that long, my chances will be reduced due to rolling admission and applying so late in the cycle only a few days before the November 1st deadline. Please help me!

I just took the LSAT for the first time this past Saturday (10/3). I know I didn't do as well as I need to - or even as well as I was PTing leading up the test. The RC threw me off and I had a mini panick attack (I calmed down quickly). Also, the break threw me off my concentration.

With all that said, I'm feeling good about retesting in December! the first time experience should help me be more calm, and I feel like I know exactly where I need to focus my efforts.

I'm thinking of buying the LR, LG, and RC bundles for PT1-38 from CambridgeLSAT, but am curious what the thoughts are about the reliability of old PTs vs. newer? Of course, I'm gonna do the new ones, but I'm gonna save them for closer to December. Are PT's 1-38 worth the time and money?

For those of you guys who have the time to BR an entire exam before the BR group, do you find it helpful? or not so much [e.g. better time being spent on practicing games or drills, etc]? I would imagine that if you had the time to BR on a clean copy before, view answers, and BR with a clean copy during the discussion it'd be helpful (but maybe not as much with a scratched up copy) any thoughts?

LSAT Prep Test 32

October, 2000

Section 3, Questions 19-24

Game 4

2nd Rule States That G Is In Slot 1, So G Cannot Be In Slot 7. Contrposite Is G In Slot 7, Then G Is Not In Slot 1.

Question: Why Is Not A Board With G In Slot 7, But Not In 1?

As I am working through the games, I find myself going over the ideal time and I miss a few of the answers. However, when I redo the games, my speed increases and I get more answers correct, sometimes perfect score.

When I take the LSAT, all of the games will be new to me, so I am worried that my speed and accuracy may be hindered. I am worried!

Should I be worried about this, or is this a normal process when introduced to unfamiliar games during this program?

The common understanding among law school applicants is that if you want a reasonable shot at practicing "big law" you HAVE to get T14. My questions is, why 14? I understand that you have to draw a line at some point, but I'm just wondering why its 14. Would the difference (chances getting into big law firms) between Cornell (#13) and Georgetown (#14), if there is any, be significantly different from the difference between Georgetown and UT (#15)?

I understand that it seems silly, but many people I've talked to really seem to be putting a lot of emphasis on the idea of T14. So really, two questions, to whoever either has an answer or any opinion. I am currently in the running for most of T14. I am about 90% sure I would like to work in big law, and perhaps even internationally, so geography and regional strengths are really non-factors. Would it be unreasonable to choose UCLA #16 over say the #12, 13, or 14 schools if I just like UCLA better? Also, if 14 does happen to be the magic number, how do we account for the fact that these rankings DO change, and that what's 14 today may be 16 or 17 in 3 years?

I have read, and re-read, Mike Kim's explanation on how to approach "Match the Flaw/ Parallel Flaw" questions, and I continue to not identify this correctly...

Any suggestions on how to approach these? I understand it is important to have a strong grasp of the flaw when you enter the questions, but I am consistently wrong in matching conclusions and supports...

Any tricks or obvious tactics would be so helpful!

I am scoring consistently in the LR and LG sections of my PT's, usually -3 total for LR and -0 for LG save some dumb mistakes on occasion that have diminished now that my timing is doing amazing after drilling nearly all LG for 1-38.

BUT- my reading comp just isn't improving nor is it consistent. Sometimes I do pretty well, like -2,-3 and other times I ruin my entire score with like an -8. I am just looking for any guidance that any of you used that led to improvement. Timing and accuracy are both issues for me, I can't seem to get a good internal clock for RC and regularly run out of time.

I know that practice, practice, practice is key but any specific strategies are welcome. I just ordered the Trainer solely for the reading comp lessons because Im that desperate.

Like I said, any tips or strategies that helped you are welcome.

So I took the LSAT this past weekend and there were several procedural errors.

!) 2 students were admitted after the test books and answer sheets had been gicen out and after we had already bubbled in our names and wrote the statement. Nothing was reread to those who came in late.

2) The proctors forgot to tell us when 5 minutes were left for the first 2 sections

3) Because we weren't given the 5 minute warning for sections 1 and 2, one student requested if he could transfer answers from his test book to his answer sheet during the break(apparently he likes to answer all the questions in the book and then go back and fill in the answer sheet, but was unable to do so because he wasn't given the warning) SO DURING THE BREAK THE PROCTOR GAVE HIM HIS TEST BOOK AND ANSWER SHEET AND LET HIM WORK ON IT FOR ALMOST 10 MINUTES

4)Several people brought phones which were confiscated. However the phones were not turned off and several times they went off with emergency alerts( Took the test in Carolinas where it is flooding)

Hey all,

I thought I'd make a thread about possible curves for the exam. Yes, I know, it is purely speculation. Many people thought the exam was comparatively very difficult. In fact, Spivey posted an article about the difficulty, which can be found here (http://spiveyconsulting.com/blog/help-i-failed-the-lsat-october-edition/)

What is the consensus on 7sage? Did you guys find the exam to be of moderate difficulty, or more or less? I think this exam was slightly more difficult than 72.

I'm about to enroll in 7Sage and I've been going through the free-trial as of now, however I’m a bit confused on the phase 2 part of the Memory Method - do you do it again with the same passage immediately after you finished going through all the questions for that passage using the phase 1 technique?

Or is it like so:

Passage 1: Phase 1 technique

Passage 2: Phase 2 technique

Passage 3: Phase 1 technique

Passage 4: Phase 2 technique

Then come back and re-do all of them using only the Phase 2 technique?

Because if we do a passage once then go right back to it with the second phase method, wouldn’t we memorize a lot of the details/answers unless there’s a certain amount of time you recommend to wait before doing the second phase?

Thanks.

This is very subjective given that everyone is different. For me, when I see that the stimulus is long, I tend to skip and attempt to come back because I am not a very fast reader.

My question is, does this seem like a fairly good approach, or are there some signals that I am overlooking to determine if a question is more so on the difficult side?

Hey fellow 7sagers, and a special hi to those in Korea.

I've taken the LSAT in June and got a 169, and am looking for a study partner or two who'll help me stay motivated (as will I to you(s)) for the upcoming December LSAT.

I believe that we could be most helpful to each other if you have at least scored a 168~169 on the real test and/or have been PTing in the 170s. (For those of you who'd like to know more about me: I have graduated from college in the U.S. and was born in 1990)

I'll be studying in Gangnam (Apgujeongdong) or Bundang. I work at a prep academy so I can provide space for mock tests.

hit me up if you're interested!

Without going into detail, whats the consensus on game 3? Difficult? Easy? Or just time sink?

Lots of people on the TLS forums giving conflicting accounts on it.

How did you do it? I took my 4th timed PT today (pt51). So far LR is my favorite yet most frustrating section. I try to finish the first 15 in 15min, but I get bogged down doing the first 1-12. I didn't finish on time and ended up not answering about 3 questions.

I somewhat have the accuracy because although I barely manage to finish LR, I tend to get -3 or -4 wrong per section.

If you were in my position at one point in time, what did you do to get to a point where you are finishing early without suffering accuracy?

Anyone here take the test in Asia? Based on what I've read everyone in Asia had the same test and it appears we were given the identical test given Dec 2012 in Asia. The RC and one of the LG games is definitely the same as Dec 2012. Everyone has 2 LGs and trying to sort which is the experimental.

In understand that the word “for” introduces a premise with the conclusion following the premise or preceding this word. Does this this concept apply when “for example” is in the stimulus?

Please explain. Thank you.

Whenever I take LR and RC from preptests (esp,LR), sometimes I can't be sure whether I pick the right answer.

When I choose an answer, I think like "Hmm..It looks like it's an answer." or "It might be right." and I choose and then move on to the next question even if I'm not sure about the answer. So half of the answers I choose are usually right and the other half are wrong.

So being unsure about choosing answers always makes me feel really worried and annoyed. Especially, PT50s and recent ones make me feel vulnerable and worried. I want to be sure and certain (e.g Yes, this is an answer!) when I pick answers.

How can I overcome about this problem?

Please someone give me advice.

Thanks!

For the retakers out there.... I think I made a costly error on game 3 (I see I'm not alone there) but anyway I have a feeling I won't be achieving my target score. For those of you in a similar boat, when are you going to kick it back into gear? I had been going pretty hard and was getting pretty tired towards the end and was planning on taking a week off from studying before getting back at it next Monday. Is that too much time off? What're your guys plans of attack going forward?

I have searched around discussion boards online and it does not seem that anyone or any group of people have identified the experimental LR from the test yesterday. In June, I remember it being easy to discuss and identify the experimental LR just like RC and LG usually is. I had LR(26) LR(26) RC LR(25) LG, the 25 question one was real and luckily it was cake, but for the life of me I cannot figure out which 26 question section was experimental, nor can I remember specific questions from them. Also have seen people note about there being 2 questions for a stimulus which I did not have so that must be experimental as well, which means the test had 2 possible experimental LR's... which seems bizarre. Also, talking to other people that had taken the test at my center they had LR LG RC LR LG or LR RC RC LR LG. Does this mean that my 2nd section is for sure the experimental or is there a chance my 2nd section was their 1st section?? Any feedback would be appreciated, would love to have a confirmation on this as the 1st LR(26) was insanely hard (especially compared to the 2nd LR(26)) and that being the real one could definitely be a detriment to my score. ): Hope everyone's test went well, thanks to this 7sage community for getting me as prepared as I could have been for Saturday!

If one has learned all of the valid argument forms, does it make sense to learn the invalid forms? Of course, I could be incorrect, but it seems to be redundant to learn both. Please assist. Thank you.