You spent months not only putting in all the work, but also sharing your experience and wisdom and touching so many of us on 7Sage. And you spent this past week watching us go through relief and anxiety and hope and freakouts, while you had to still stand quietly on your start line and wait for your own GO! whistle to blow.

You got through that and you're still kind and funny. You felt the pressure and didn't crack - as much as it tried, the LSAT's got nothing on you!

There's a reason the Elite athletes run on their own and not with the recreational masses - so all the spectators can concentrate fully on cheering them on. Brittany, you're our Elite athlete, and we're all here, ready to cheer you on tomorrow!

Howdy Folks,

I'm thankfully coming to the end of this course after a long fought struggle with LG. I wanted to ask some of you veterans our there: I've been covering the LG portion of this course with a lot of patience and I haven't touched a lot on my other skills. I wanted to ask what were some of the ways many of you put the course all together for yourselves. Did you begin prep tests and pick a few days a week to go back through the old material? Did you dive right into the prep tests and only review the old material as you needed to while doing your BR? Did you take a few weeks to review old material before diving in? Thanks for any feedback folks, I appreciate it.

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Hi guys. So over the years, starting from first year I looked at questions from the 2007 preptest just because it was free. Now it is spoiled as my diagnostic...so do I need to take it? I also studied for 3 weeks before taking this course so I have an understanding of what each section entails.

I make a bubbling error nearly every practice test. In fact, I can't recall, the last time I have not made a bubbling error. I record my answers on the Analytics page as they are on the Scantron because I will likely perform on the real test as I do on practice tests (as I have already learned from taking a real test and making a Scantron error). This way, my score reflects not which answers I circle in the booklet, but which answers I successfully record on the Scantron and are ultimately used in my real score.

How do you score PT bubbling errors (if you make any at all... if that's the case, please share your bubble mojo)?

A note, I bubble and double-check after every game, after every RC section, and once before turning the page in an LR section. I'm thinking of changing my strategy, as it's clearly not working for me.

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So, I have been reading a lot of posts on here and it seems like those who score in the 170s (my dream score), studied for about a year to a year and a half.

What I want to know is that is this time spent from start to finish, non-stop? Or on and off?

I've been at it for about 11 months on and off, and approximately 3 months consistently (at least an hour everyday with days of break every now and then).

Any help and/or info is much appreciated. Thanks all!

I am currently working through the course and I am wondering do you typically complete the entire course lessons before taking another test? My diagnostic was test 56, so I still have the 2007 I can take. Should I take it now, that I have a more basic understanding... or take it once I am completely through the starter package course??? I guess I am semi desperate to see some improvement :)

Thx guys

Hey guys,

I am taking the September LSAT and after reading a good number of people saying how the June LSAT was easy to moderate I am getting nervous. While my "theory" has not evidence to back it up whatsoever I am afraid the September LSAT will be much harder. Could there be any truth to it?

Hey team,

Wanted some input on the optimum time to conduct a BR session. Do you find it more beneficial to BR an hour or two after you PT, or is it more effective if you wait to BR the following day? Since I'm a re-taker I'm cutting ZERO corners this time around, at the same time, I know for BR to work you need to be very meticulous and disciplined during review. I know this process, however rewarding it may be, is still taxing. What approaches did you take to properly PT/BR in conjunction with drilling your weaknesses whilst avoiding burn out?

Thanks

Happy Saturday!

Hello everyone! This is my first time posting here on 7Sage. I have been reading a lot of the forum posts, hoping to find an answer to my question but I couldn't, so here it is. I took the June 2016 Administration of the LSAT and I am in need of opinions on whether or not I should cancel my score, as today is the last day to do so.

Some background on my situation:

I first took the LSAT during the middle of my junior year in college, December 2014. I had not prepared at all and knew next to nothing about the test and so just registered and took it. Based on the fact that I knew nearly nothing at all about the LSAT and the rigor it demands, my score was not surprising, and I scored an abysmal 138. I took this as a learning experience, however, and decided to study after I completed my final year of undergrad. I graduated with a 3.86 GPA in May 2015 and I was proud to have earned that, but I knew it was time to buckle down for the LSAT. Beginning during the first week of July, I began to study using the Powerscore LG Bible. It helped me gain a nice foundation for logic games but it didn't put me over the edge, in terms of mastering them. I studied on and off like this for months... signed up for the December 2015 LSAT and I ended up withdrawing because my biggest fear was/is wasting my GPA and accepting a mediocre LSAT score.

I got a tutor during the last week of January 2016 and began to see major improvements in my logic games. It was incredible. I should say also, that I partnered my tutoring with 7Sage's free logic games video explanations and my score sky-rocketed! I had gone from getting only 8 correct in a section, to consistently getting no less than 17 correct in a section and climbing! With this success, I decided to sign up for the June 2016 Administration. As the test got closer, however, I noticed that I was peaking at scores of mid-to-high 150's. This was NOT anywhere near my goal of 170+ but I was convinced to take the test anyway, after I learned that multiple takes were not going to kill me.

I sat for the test and came out of there feeling defeated. I found that the games section was very doable but I found myself running out of time. Then my reasoning sections were touch and go, they truly were a blur to me. My reading comp (my weakest section) was tough but I found myself blanking on my second RC section (which luckily turned out to be the experimental section). Overall, I found myself completely guessing for at least the last 10 questions of every single section, and that being said, I don't think I had good accuracy when it came to the questions I actually got to attempt. This made me feel extremely uneasy, following the test.

Now, ever since this past Tuesday morning, I've been wrestling with the idea of whether or not to cancel. I already have a 138 (December 2014) on file, and then am risking having this other miserable score on file (June 2016). I am without a doubt sitting for the test again and am planning to sign up for 7Sage's curriculum, since they've helped my LG significantly.

My biggest worry is that I'll have to explain 2 miserable scores and then have that third out-of-the-park score. I am aware that most schools will only use my highest score to evaluate me as a candidate, but I can't help but think that 2 bad scores will hurt me, as opposed to having a poor score, a cancel, and then the high score.

What should I do?

Thanks for reading, if you've read this far and I apologize for the long post.

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I finally decided to take another yet hopefully last LSAT next year. Would you please introduce anyone who achieved the significant jump? I really need to learn from those and it will put me on the right track later.

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If it is true that most schools other than Yale do not penalize for multiple takes...

Unless something happened during the test that was extremely detrimental to your scoring potential, I would not cancel...

Post-test anxiety is a given but you never want to waste a take.

7Sage and the BR process has given us pre-testers a way to try to evaluate our decision choices under "optimum" test conditions. If you sat for the test and cancel your score, you have nothing to gain from the experience other than sitting for 5+ hours in a testing room and have to trust your memory on AC's once the test is released to everyone.

Why would you want to give up the chance to have your answer sheet and the scored test for you to evaluate your decisions and choices during "real" conditions? The opportunity to be able to seriously BR the heck out of the test could mean serious gains on the next take if needed.

Always a personal decision, but I hope this helps:)

Hey Guys,

I know it's not a fun topic, but I am really struggling with the question of whether to cancel my score and would appreciate some advice. My situation is a bit unusual so I've found most of the advice out there to be not that helpful. (tl;dr - too busy at work, wasn't ready for June but took it anyway, will do better in sept., should I cancel?)

In January, I registered for the June exam. I am a legal assistant at a v5 firm and shortly after registering was assigned to a new case that was going to trial. I worked 85+ hour weeks from mid-March thru 2.5 weeks before the June exam, and thus did no prep at all during that time.

The biggest problem at this point was that I hadn't yet "learned" logic games. I knew I couldn't do that in two weeks, but continued to work as hard as I could, prepping 7 hours per weekday and 10 on weekends, plus 6 hours of tutoring. The tutoring was great, and gave me the tools I need to work most effectively over this summer for September. I went into the exam knowing well that I was not ready and would not perform to my highest potential. I took the test because I paid for it and felt the test day experience could only be beneficial. I was PTing around 160 and getting at least half wrong on LG. The test went fine, but I think I scored somewhere in 159-161. I am going to take September and am planning to work extremely hard until then, and I won't have the same issue with work hours. I am certain that I will do much better in September. I am aiming for at least a 165.

The question, then, is whether it is worth having a lower score on my record if I know for a fact that I will do better in September. It seems to me that the best choice is to cancel, and that all I would get out of not canceling would be having the ability to see my score - nice, but worth it if I can avoid having a 159 on my record? If I don't cancel, I would write an addendum explaining the circumstances leading up to the exam. What do you guys think?

Thanks so much!

Hello I am just curious to see how 7sagers felt about the 7sage course and their june LSAT. is there anything you would have done differently? how did you find that the course prepared you?

hello 7sages!

I'm considering buying editing services from 7sage or somewhere else, partly because I'm too busy (working 13+ hours a day), partly because I'm not an English native speaker. Paradoxically, the fact that i'm not a native speaker also stops me from buying editing service, because i'm afraid that the polished statement from David Busis will be too good to be mine.

I browsed a few top law schools' websites, Michigan Law School makes it explicit

May a foreign applicant who does not write well in English use a professional editing service to edit for language and style?

We expect that essays are the work of the applicant. It's one thing to show them to a friend or two for input, but we definitely frown upon a professional service. This is true whether the applicant is a native speaker or not; all too often, U.S. natives will hire "admissions consultants" to actually pen their personal statements, and we view that too as a violation of our expectation that all the work is that of the applicant. You'd be surprised how easily we are able to detect these professionally polished essays. We will often compare the writing style of the LSAT essay with that of the personal statement, for example, and when there's a stark contrast, we'll know why.

Some law schools have similar warning as well.

If it's ghostwriting by editors, it's no doubt a cheating and should be forbidden. But if I have worked hard to the best PS I can produce, and then buy the services I need to compensate my disadvantages (not living in the US, nor a native speaker), it's seems a little in the grey area to me.

But of course, if I know i'm going to have a editor help me, i may rely on him or her rather than trying my best at the very beginning of my personal statement.

I really appreciate all of your help and opinions! Thank you!

I know I'm not the only one.

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Hi! I may not be a typical LSAT student at least in terms of age. I graduated from college in 2002 (Mechanical Engineering) and received a Master’s degree in Biomedical Engineering in 2005 and Ph.D. in Bioengineering in 2010. Then I spent two years as a postdoctoral researcher in neuroscience and then I worked as an assistant professor at a state University for two years. Before it gets too late, I wanted to try something else other than academia, so I left academia and got a government job two years ago. So I am an engineer and scientist by training, and I have published more than 30 peer-reviewed scientific journal papers.

My experience in the government over the past 2 years has motivated me to go to law school. It’s been a while that I took a test since my graduate school and I was quite nervous and I think I significantly underperformed on the June LSAT last Monday than my usual PTs. Do you think if my background (PhD in engineering, research paper publications, grant funding and student teaching/mentoring history, work experiences as a university professor and in government) could be considered as a strong soft in law school applications? Also, if any of you have a similar background or have seen similar cases, I will appreciate if you could please share your stories how your work experiences or soft helped your law school admissions. Because of my current job, I'd like to go to part-time programs in the DC areas. Thanks!

I don't believe I pressed the "reset" button while the timer was still going; regardless, my 180 Watch is off about five seconds, with the long hand setting just behind the "0."

Does anyone know how to fix this? Hopefully, there's a way to do so!

Did anyone hear anything funny or unusual at the LSAT sitting? One person at mine was taking it cold and claimed her gpa was strong so the LSAT shouldn't matter much. Another person had studied for over a year and claimed she never scored over a 140 but her goal was a 145 so she could get into an unaccredited program. Another person said their logic games strategy was to spend all of their time on sequencing games (the person said games where you place things in order in a row) if they got one because they are the only ones that are even possible to do quickly. She said she would just guess on the rest of the logic games because trying didn't really change the result. Any others out there?