Hello everybody,

I was wondering if anybody could help clarify something for me. I am a little confused about diagramming the sentences with two "if (or unless)". How could I translate the following sentence into the formal lawgic?

"no plant is worth growing unless it bears fruit"

I tried this way " - bears fuits ----> (P ---> - WG) " but this structure is not helpful.

Is it okay to translate this into either one of the following?

" -bears fruits ---> P ---> --WG" or " - bears fruits + P ---> - WG"

Can anyone shed some light on this?

P.S: Please helpe me with the next one too

"New investment that takes place while interest rates are falling cannot lead to the huge growth"

I hope everyone does extremely well! Let's do this!!!!!!

Because having a social life is overrated.

SATURDAY, October 3rd at 8PM ET: PT70

Note:

1. Is there a limit to the number of pencils we can bring to the testing center or have on our desk during the test?

My mom gave me a weird look as I sharpened my ~20 pencils and I double-checked the guidelines which say we "must bring... (3) three or four sharpened No. 2 or HB pencils, with good erasers." I take it that this doesn't mean that we can ONLY bring 3/4?

2. Does chapstick count as a "medical product"? :P

Seriously though, I'm kind of addicted to it. I jokingly say that my greatest LSAT success wasn't (finally) getting -0 on Logic Games or (finally) breaking 170, but rather managing to go an entire section without putting on chapstick. I can definitely live without it tomorrow, but it'd be nice to have it on me...just in case.

Like I said, these are dumb questions and I'm not stressing over them. But it'd be nice to know now vs. tomorrow.

Thanks and good luck everyone!

I just recently decided to take the LSAT and I am studying for the Dec. test. I am nervous that I will not be ready for the Dec. test and end up taking the Feb. test. For personal reasons, I really want to start school in Fall 2016 and not wait another year. My top two school choices both are still accepting applications until the beginning of April and one is accepting until May. However, both are on rolling admissions, which I know significantly will lower my chances.

I guess I need some guidance if it is unrealistic to think that applying that late in the game will still get me in for the upcoming Fall. Taking the test in February would give me more time to prepare and I would most likely get a higher LSAT score but it puts me applying so late in the process.

Any advice or opinions is greatly appreciate!

*please don't quote

i am in a dilemma regarding whether to take the test this Saturday. i had been scoring at my target of 173 in the retakes of the tests but on the only 2 fresh tests that i did this year in the last 2 weeks, i was much below the target, mainly due to rc. i also missed some silly points on lg so i think i can go near perfect on a normal lg section.

pt 72: -18, 166, rc -9, lr1 -0, lr2 -4, lg -5

pt 75: -13, 168, rc -6, lr1 -2, lr2 -2, lg -3

i have already 2 scores so this take is pretty much it. if everything goes normally i think i'd still be sitting at -11/-13, which would still be below my target. so i am unsure whether to withdraw and do december or just take it now.

how could one decide?

is there any point in doing a 73/74 rc (which are fresh for me) and seeing again if the section goes better?

Has anyone ever taken this? It's being offered at a location near the real exam but I can't find any information on what I need to bring.

Are there 7Sage mods/reps commenting on students answers reported below videos to correct any mistakes students make when they attempt to solve problems? If so, do these reps/mods have an official avatar or a 7sage sign so we can quickly identify them? One of the reasons why I ran away from the Manhattan forums is that it took a good amount of time to weed through incorrect answers/explanations. Please help 7Sage?

Also is there a way to print one's notes or save them in a PDF format?

Thanks

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Can someone break this one down? I don't see how B is incorrect, and I don't see how E is correct. Isn't one of the flaws in the argument a past to present flaw (line 6)? Doesn't B call this assumption out that an education party could be different than what has been historically true?

Also, for E, I eliminated it because I thought it strengthened the argument! Isn't the conclusion that the education party isn't going to be viable in the long run? The percent of people is too low for historical standards, and stating that even fewer people would join the party would strengthen that support right? Isn't that what answer choice E does?

Ok, folks. Let's discuss options for BR groups heading towards December.

We have two matters to consider:

1) Which tests to BR

I think the top priority is to get all the way through PT75 (June '15). We have approximately 15 sessions between now and November 30th if we meet twice weekly (with PT61 happening this Wednesday), which should be the last group call for the Dec 6th test.

That means we have to make a choice between:

1) Staying the course and doing PT60s all the way to 75 in sequential order.

2) Something else? I’m not sure if there’s a better course, but I’m open to ideas.

My question to you: Which course do we follow?

2) When to do the groups

I propose the following. Please either respond to this thread or PM me if you have strong objections.

—Every Saturday at 8pm EST (note the time change). Our sessions have been averaging around 3 hours (shorter than previous sessions) and I do not think 11pm is too late for most of the East Coasters to wrap up the call.

—Every Wednesday at 8pm EST (if we have a lot of West Coasters who work full time, we can perhaps find some wiggle room depending on how long your commutes are. I hesitate to set it any later as that would push the East Coasters near midnight by the time we finish)

----Friday Special! We do PT70 through PT75 over the next several Fridays; please specify if you want to do this special session—some of us want the opportunity to take these later tests twice before the December test date. Maybe after that, we can play with some older tests in the 40s to switch it up??

My question to you: Do these days work for you?

To all who have participated or reached out to me about participating: Please make your lovely voices heard!

And as always ... If you want to join in on some BR fun, PM me with your Skype handle.

I spent the entire summer working 50 hour weeks at a law firm and now back at school for my 3rd year of undergrad. I want to get back to studying for the LSAT which I haven't done since May-ish. Somewhat busy now with school and clubs but I do have some time to start studying again. I finished off the complete course in May and now I have to idea where to pick back up, I don't want to start right away with Prep Tests because I feel like I will just ruin my confidence by taking one after being so far removed from the LSAT. Any Suggestions??

To lighten the mood for all of us before our exam on Saturday!! Feel free to share jokes for all of us to enjoy.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/jameskicksa/35-signs-you-are-studying-for-the-lsat-b2tp#.xq0yPPQPX

GOOD LUCK TO EVERYONE ON SATURDAY...not that you need it because you all have wasted away in a desk for the last few months studying hard to get a good score ;)

I think PT 1 is June 1991. Does anyone know what the exam was like before then?/have a copy of a pre-1991 exam? I am a little curious.

I'm registered for Saturday's administration. I am not ready but if I score at the highest end of my PT's, it will be acceptable if I somehow bomb December's administration. The biggest problem is I am quite sick with a viral chest cold right now and it is not improving. I have a cough that I cannot suppress and I pity anyone who would have to sit near me.

On the other hand, I am definitely applying for this cycle. I just am not going to wait another year... and so it seems like I don't have much to lose from taking it Saturday.

Please advise?

For those people applying to schools in Ontario, Canada (such as University of Toronto) for this November, we need to apply through OLSAS. There are a lot of different things on there and some items might require clarification. Since I think a decent number of us are applying in Ontario, I think it's a good idea that we all ask each other in this thread (perhaps make it a sticky thread). Any random question. Try to make an effort to find out first, then ask here. I'm sure some people have already called OLSAS for things of this nature. Hopefully you all agree this is a good idea. I know I wouldn't mind just being able to ask here rather than having to call if I need clarification.

WEDNESDAY, October 7th at 8PM ET: PT61

Note:

Hi eveyone, does anyone know where I can get preptests 39-51? Those are the only ones I seem to be missing & I couln't find them on the LSAC site.

I have the 7 sage beginner program and have not written and of the newest practice tests. The most recent test I have written has been prep test 48, does anyone know how much the newer LSATS differ in range of difficulty. what should i expect for this saturday ??

thanks

Just a happy reminder to get your passport-style photos taken forgotten Saturday!

And I dare people to post theirs.

I always wonder how the individuals taking this test coped with this specific logic games section. The second game on this was not difficult, but time consuming as hell, and the last game is like "wth is this?"

I know it's in the category of ridiculous questions. Now let's get to business. No one likes to waste time filling in bubbles. And for ADHD + OCD perfectionists like myself, when we read "make sure it's perfectly filled in," we make damn sure it's filled in perfectly, wasting precious seconds on the clock.

So, does anyone know how perfect it needs to be before the scantron reading machine thingy fucks it up? If I leave an imperfect stray mark outside the circle am I finished?

And, does anyone have any strategies for colouring quicker? (if you noticed the U in colour it's because us Canadians spell it the correct way lol) Do you start with the outside ring and work your way in?

And yes, I already bought those tri-conderoga pencils.

So I just looked at the weather and a hurricane will be moving up the East Coast in the next few days.

What are the general practices for the LSAT and inclement weather? Do they ever cancel? This may be the first time in my life I don't want a test postponed.

This LR section killed me. I spent all day BRing questions 22, 24, and 26 in this section. This is another one that I am just lost on. I eliminated every answer choice, so I pretty much guessed 1/5 on this one. Can someone break this one down completely?

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-47-section-1-question-22/

Hello everyone!

I am desperately looking for advice on how to improve my LR score. I have been studying on and off for my LSAT over the past 2 years with lengthy breaks in between (studying during my Master's was a bad idea). My original diagnostic score was a sad 138 and now I'm scoring around a 153. I know it is really hard to come up from such a low score, but I'm determined.

I have seen some improvements and have hired a private tutor, but my LR score is stagnating. The most I ever get correct in a given section is 15 and I usually get to anywhere between 17-20 questions on any given LR section. I time myself religiously and almost every single time I get 15 correct. I want to score in the low 160s this December and I am currently dedicating all of my time to studying. I know I am having a serious time management issue, but I'm not sure how to fix it. My goal is to get a minimum of 20 correct on LR.

I review every single one of the problems I get wrong, but I cannot seem to break this pattern. Are my goals realistic and if so how do I achieve them?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!