I'm rarely one to make a public discussion post like this, but I want to express my gratitude to 7Sage and encourage others to give it a shot.

In September 2019, I got a 156 after using PowerScore. I re-took in November 2020 after studying w/ Khan Academy, and saw a marginal score increase (162), but I was still nowhere near my goal score. I started w/ 7Sage in March of 2021 and told myself this would be the last time.

The 7Sage core curriculum helped me tremendously. Starting with such a great foundation (and treating my LSAT studying like an online class) really helped to raise my floor score. I found myself performing with greater consistency and was confident going into test day (a strange feeling!). Anyways, all this to say that I have been thoroughly impressed w/ 7Sage, and after having used other popular methods like PowerScore and Khan, I can say that this was the best prep regiment I tried hands-down. Excited to never have to think about this test ever again!

Hello everyone, I apologize if this has been discussed previously but has there been any word on when 7Sage plans to post explanation videos to the PT's in the title?

Okay, kind of a long post but I am feeling super discouraged after getting October LSAT results and I'm scheduled to take the November test. I feel like I have gotten the absolute worst luck of the draw on LSATs and can't tell if I'm just being dramatic or not.

I've taken 3 LSATs so far, two of them two years ago, then focused on work until a few months ago when I decided to apply again and took the October 2021 LSAT...here's how each one went:

September 2019: aka PT88 and flowers game, a notoriously hard LSAT, and I was okay with my score considering it was a hard test, but I knew it didn't show my potential so I decided to take the November 2019 test.

November 2019: Show up to the test and the proctors never arrive, so our entire test center gets rescheduled BUT we have to do a paper test. I had not practiced on paper at all since all the tests had moved to electronic, so I ended up scoring 4 points lower because you can't see time remaining and I just wasn't used to the timing of filling out the scantron.

October 2021: I originally sat for the test on Saturday when it was interrupted and I waited 2 hours to be told it was going to be rescheduled. The test I originally had was 2 LG sections, which is my strongsuit, and the easier RC section. When I retook the test, I got back to back RC sections with the scored section (Mali and Paternalism) being the second of the two, as well as the Duets logic game.

I got the same score as my Sep 2019 test...

I just feel like all the tests have been stacked against me and it is so frustrating when some tests feel so unfair. I have been PTing in the low 170s but have had awful luck during all of my actual LSATs. Am I just being dramatic?

How do I stay motivated when it just feels like I'll never get a fair test administration?

Hi everyone,

I will be going over the CC for the second time in a much more thorough way. I wanted to know y'all's thoughts on when to incorporate PTs and study groups.

Currently, my average is a 155 (best PT being a 157) so I am going back to reallllly learn the fundamentals again. Being that I have some fundamentals already down, I am not sure if I should be PTing while doing the CC again or if I should wait to PT (and have a study group BRing PTs) until after I finish the CC. I'd appreciate y'all's insight.

On all of the tests, the experimental section is either 3 or 4. Will it be like that on the LSAT as well?

Due to technical issues I honestly expected my score to be a heartbreak. Turned out to be a 163.

It still is a heartbreak, in a way, because I had regularly been PT'ing at around 170, my goal score, and my last PT before the test (the morning of the test in fact) was a 173.

I put this partly down to test day nerves but the vast majority down to the extreme anxiety caused by Proctor U. Like many others, I was sitting on my hands for close to an hour due to a 'technical problem' not on my end between the 2nd and 3rd sections.

Still, getting an 84th percentile score even in the worst test conditions possible (at least I hope it could not be worse) has honestly given me a lot of confidence for November, which I am thankful I registered for. I want a 170 and feel better about getting there now. Thanks in big part to 7sage whose materials and guidance was the biggest factor in my score lift by far.

The 7sage video says that the stim. says:

S -> (U or C)

thus, S -> (C -> U)

But this doesn't seem right?

Shouldn't the contrapositive instead be: (U and C) -> S ?

This question is in general very frustrating and confusing, but I need to understand how J.Y. came to the conclusions he came to.

Admin Note: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-71-section-3-question-24/

I started studying on September 1st and got a diagnostic score of 148. I have been studying consistently for almost two months with some breaks in between. Last week, I hit 166! I take the LSAT in January and wanted to ask if there is something more I should be doing to prepare for the test or should I just continue to take practice tests? My goal score was 160 so I am having a hard time feeling motivated to continue to study although I know I have to.

I was consistently PTing in the low-mid 160s and BRing in the upper 160s. I just got my score back and it was 9 points lower than my most recent PT and two points lower than my August score. I am so discouraged and disappointed in myself. I know this test isn’t an intelligence test, but it sure feels like it. Going on over a year of studying and making gains right before this test, I was feeling so confident. I’m just at a loss for words and don’t know where to go from here. Sad.

Got 161 at Oct 2020, Jan 2021 and oct 2021.

I feel like the whole year had been wasted.

I scored 168 on both of the newest PTs, and I feel really confident at the October test.

Anyways, congrats to all who get what you want.

Hey guys, I am wondering if anyone can help me gain any information on my situation. I don't really have anyone who can give me advice.

I am trying to choose where to apply an ED, and I am between two schools. For school A, I am over their 75% LSAT by one point, but below their 25% GPA by .1 points. For school B, I am above their 25% GPA by .1 and above their 75% LSAT by 3 points.

I feel like I have a strong resume and a passionate PS/DS, but I don't know how much my lower GPA will affect me. School A is my top choice, but School B offers full tuition if you are admitted through ED.

Can anyone give me advice on the likelihood I could get into school A even being below the 25% GPA? I know its tough without seeing my resume, LORs, and statements. But hoping to get some insight because I am conflicted.

Thank you to anyone who can help!

My Lsat score still has not posted. It states it's temporarily on Hold, But I still haven't received an email for the reason it would be on hold. Is anyone having this problem as well?

I currently got my LSAT score for OCT back and unfortunately it was worse than what my average was. My last PT before the test I scored above my average, so honestly. WTF. Anyway, I love 7sage for LG but would like to know if you guys used additional material for LR or RC. I've used loophole, it's definitely helped, but now I'm thinking of taking January. Please let me know advice for these sections, and what worked for you. Thank you!!

Hi,

I got a 153 on the Oct test and this is NOT reflective of my abilities. I was PT around the low to mid 160s, and the week before the resceduled tests, I was EXHAUSTED. I was getting questions wrong, that I would have not gotten wrong before. I just didn't feel as motivated or like myself. The day of my test, I felt the same way. During the test, I felt like I was not in it, whatsoever! After the test, I knew I didn't do well, my heart and mind were not in it.

Now, I dont know whether I should cancel my score or keep it. Do schools look down on a cancel score, or would it look better to have the lower score and then a higher score?

I am signed up for the November test and I know what I am capable of!!

I am currently scoring around 172 with about -2 LR. People say the best way to learn is to teach, so I think if I explain my thought process in LR it will allow me finally close this gap. I could probably only be helpful for those scoring 164 and below. I'll probably be studying for a while today so feel free to stop by I'll just leave the zoom link here: https://nyu.zoom.us/j/9958274382

I have taken the LSAT twice, both times my score was almost 10 points under my practice tests. Very frustrating, very confusing. Practice tests average around 165, but actual test scores are 156 and 157. The articles I read said that students score comparably on the 3 and 4 section test formats. Maybe I was having test anxiety, maybe bad luck? 7sage recently introduced the flex score converter, and now I see that for me, there is a significant difference in my score based on the flex vs pre-covid test format. I'm feeling really frustrated. If the flex score converter had been available sooner, I would've studied differently the past 4 months. I'm trying to decide if I should cancel my 7sage subscription and just take my 157, or if I should focus on reading comprehension and logic games until January. Does anyone know if 7sage will apply monthly subscription fees towards the yearly subscription price? This is getting expensive, and I'm thinking it may be time to just cancel and accept the current score.

Started studying in June 2021. Have been studying pretty hard, especially since August. My diagnostic in June was a 149. Knowing I had an uphill battle to get to my target grade by October/November 2021 (I need to apply this cycle for personal reasons) I studied my @ss off...

My issue is I'm just not seeing improvement in LG. RC I typically get -0 to -2. LR, I'm between -0 and -4. Realistically, I don't think I can improve those sections a huge amount more between now and November and in any case I would not need to but...ugh, LG...

LG I have achieved -0 before but it's kind of a freak occurrence. My all-time average is -5 but realistically I am very lucky to ever get below -4 and have, recently, got -7 on LG! I also typically always get -0 on Blind Review so it's not like I don't know what I'm doing, it just never quite goes smoothly on the timed sections, generally because I end up rushing at least one game or just falling for some trap answer. Or doing something dumb like splitting inappropriately. Kind of mistakes that I feel I should have overcome by now with this level of practice and stufy.

I don't really struggle on any particular game type other than 'misc', a little, but I'm not sure how one can really work on a 'miscellaneous' game type, because it is miscellaneous. So yeah, I'm really at a loss, especially given how many folks seem to find this the easiest section to consistently perfect and I feel like if I can't get consistently to a -2 then the 170 goal is always going to be out of reach. The October test was brutal for me for LG.

What REALLY annoys me is that this has been the case since at least September and I'm not sure what more I can do about it. I don't think I have time to re-do the curriculum or really spend a ton of time working on it because I work full time and definitely need to continue to maintain sharpness on the other sections so those don't slip. It's almost like I just need a little hack or 10 extra minutes or something. If only LSAC would give me accommodations!

Anyway, mainly just venting ...nd sort of wondering if anyone else is in a similar boat? Or has perhaps got themselves out of said boat? I don't have the best GPA so the high LSAT is really important to me. I'm also an older student, otherwise I'd take a year and get a tutor ;)

I have been studying for a while now (5 months) but have only managed to go up about 8-9 points. I did pretty poorly with my first diagnostic at a 142 and now scoring at roughly 151 (on a good day). Sometimes I score in the 148-150 range but I am just tired, stressed and quite honestly sacrificing too much of my mental health on this test. Should I take this as an indicator that law school might not be right for me. With an average score of 150 I wouldn't be getting into any worthwhile schools anyway. I have a 4.0 GPA while being an honors student but this test has just taken so much from me. I truly feel like giving up. Any advice would be really appreciated. Thank you and good luck to all taking the Nov LSAT.

Does anyone know how to create 5 sections of LRs from different PTs? All I have managed to create is one section with 100 LR questions.

Does anyone know if we can eat/drink in the view of the camera on test day during intermission? Or we must eat/drink away from the camera on test day? What are the snacks that we can bring for test day? I do not see this under FAQ LSAC.

Thank you

Am I the only one who is genuinely feeling pooped after the OCT LSAT? I signed up for November but my studying has been almost non-existent since my test. I feel awful because I should've kept pushing but I've been studying since June 2020 and my brain is fried.

I am having a really hard time with RC. When I do full PT's and timed reading sections I am running out of time or rushing and getting -7 to -10 wrong. I definitely think that it is a timing issue because I have done 2 untimed reading sections and gotten -1 and -2. I am hoping to get down to -5 or less on RC in the next couple of weeks before the November test. What can I do to improve my timing? Any advice/tips/strategies is greatly appreciated! Thanks!

does anyone have the set for pt 91 section 1 logic game 3? I think I am missing some sort of inference or my rules are messed up because I'm having some trouble with this game.

thanks

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is 7sage adding these?

I am not sure why answer choice C is incorrect for PT 91 (LR) Q19. Can someone explain to me? Thank you.

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