So I scored 3-4 points lower than my average on the November LSAT, but still have a score that is worth applying to some schools in the T20-40 range. My plan is to move forward with applications, but I am studying for a retake because I know I can do better. I won't write the January test because I would like to have more time to study and reach my full potential, so I suppose the goal is March. If I get some great offers with my current score, I can decide after receiving my March score whether or not to accept those offers. The upside is that I will go to law school knowing I did my best on the LSAT, and won't have to struggle with the fact that I did not reach my target score in November. If I commit to delaying a cycle, I have March, June, and the digital July with a free score cancellation to work with and I'll be able to apply the day that applications open up.

My plan for studying: One section with thorough BR each day during the workweek, plus drills, and one timed full length PT on Saturday mornings with thorough BR for the rest of the weekend. I will use old PTs, including those which are used for the core curriculum, for the single sections. I still have a ton of fresh new PTs that I can take every Saturday too, and I can use those as a reasonably accurate indicator of my scoring range.

I reviewed every PT I took before scoring, but not as thoroughly as I could have. After taking a single section, I find that BR is less daunting and I have been writing out my explanations of circled questions and rewriting answer choices/stimuli to make wrong answers into right answers. Basically, I'm committed to doing BR better.

I guess my goal with this study plan is to increase the amount of quality studying I do each week. Before November, I only took 17 PTs and averaged way less than 2 per week because I had trouble finding time for multiple full length PTs around my work schedule. If I score close to my previous average score in March, I would consider delaying until next cycle and taking advantage of the benefit of applying early and a 3-4 point increase. At the same time, I feel I could score even higher than my current average by sticking to this study plan. I am confident that with 20-30 extra PTs under my belt, and more mastery/consistency in LG/RC, my score range will jump to the top few percentiles. That's where I want to be. Any thoughts or comments are welcome :)

I been drilling the question types. Right now I am at MSS/MBT. However, I came across an error that was reoccuring with me in logic. What do you do when there's two group 4 indicators. For example in PT 10 S.1 People cannot be morally responsible for things over which they have no control. Would it be represented like this IF ~ C implies Not MR.

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Is it ever possible that your personal statement/ diversity statement leads admissions to consider you URM even if you are not part of the categories they mention as being URM?

Hi,

So parts of my resume seem to make sense only with jargon like "Implemented a web application using Java, Spring Framework etc". I feel like adding that level of detail indicates the challenge related with the work or the research process that goes into it.

However, I think the general advice for LS applications is to cut down the technical jargon and write it differently. For anyone who's been through this or is going through this-How do you address that?

For example, I also had a research assistantship where I had to do some challenging R&D to develop a small tool. How do I say this without sounding pedantic or overplaying/underplaying myself?

Any information will be appreciated.

Hey Guys,

So this is my first time posting here but I often read the discussions and think that they are really helpful. I am hoping for some advice with my current dilemma.

So I have given the LSAT 3 times already, and always with score increases. My latest score was a 168, which was great, but it's just that I have been consistently scoring in the 171's for months now on practice exams. I messed up the logic games section really bad in the actual test even though I usually get a perfect score in that section on preptests.

But if I register to give the January test it will be my fourth attempt, and am wondering if this is one time too many? I have to apply this cycle, so another concern is not having the score (even if there's an increase) in time for admissions. And finally I feel like I have run out of recent preptests to practice on if I do decide to give it another shot.

I really feel like I can still improve, and more than anything, I believe I want to figure out the challenge of the LSAT to grow as a person.

What do you all recommend?

I am so confused.

I had been writing PT's for two weeks prior to the November LSAT and averaging in the 155-157 range. Feeling confident, I took the November LSAT with no issues with anxiety, or time management during the test. Yet, 3 weeks later, I find I have done just as bad as my original diagnostic test...

My Logic games and RC sections were both WAY below average. Does anyone have any tips to improve marks? I feel as if I have been hit by a bus with this mark.

Hi folks, I just wanted to know what specifically are the reasons why many Canadian law schools "encourage" you to have your November LSAT as the last LSAT you take? is this due to rolling admissions? if so, how much more of an advantage do you really have not doing the January LSAT - potentially increasing your score (sorry for the long question).

Hi everyone,

A student initiative at Harvard Law School called the Financial Justice Coalition has helped us compile data on the Loan Repayment Assistance Programs of T14 schools: https://classic.7sage.com/admissions/lesson/lrap-programs/

Per LSAC:

Registration for the June and July 2019 LSAT tests will open in early January, along with a new Digital LSAT familiarization tool.

-Our free Digital LSAT familiarization tutorial will be available in the test prep section of LSAC.org starting in early January when registration opens for the July 2019 test. Using any internet-connected device, you will be able to see all the details on how the tablet test works so that you can feel confident on test day.

-We are also developing digital test-preparation materials for use on your own device.

For more info, please visit: http://bit.ly/DigitalLSAT

I took the LSAT in September and I'm planning on taking it again in January. Prior to the September test, I was scoring well on my practice tests. Then on test day I freaked myself out and my nerves wrecked my score. I'm terrified this is going to happen again in January and I'd hate for something like that to ruin my chances again. I really need January to go well because I want to be admitted for the fall of 2019. If anyone has any tips to get over the test day jitters, please please please let me know what helps you. I think the timing aspect of the test, along with being like "oh sh**, I'm actually taking this right now," really got to me. I rushed through the questions because I was nervous I was running out of time and I was overthinking everything.

WORDS OF WISDOM APPRECIATED!!

I received multiple fee waivers from schools in the T-14. However, my lsat score is a 161. Should I get excited by these waiver, or do they send them to everyone with scores similar to mine. I'm also a urm so I was wondering if this is why I'm being sent them.

Just wondering if there is any one in the downtown area in NYC city wanting a study partner or study goup. Let me know if interested. I am planning on taking January Lsat and we can all meet in the library.

I got a 164 on the Nov test and was a bit disappointed. I was PT'ing at about a 167 for the 2 months before the test. The majority of those tests, however, were older ones (in the 40's and 50's). Right before the actual test, I took tests 82, 83, and 84 and got a 164, 167, and 166 on those respectively. My goal was to attend Notre Dame, Emory, WashU, or Vanderbilt in the fall with a decent amount of money off, which is now looking slim. I was wondering if I am better off applying now with my 164, than I would be with let's say a 165 in Jan. Another fear I have is that schools I can get into now (for example a Minnesota or Wake Forest) will delay my app if I retake and that I could lose out on $ that I would otherwise have applying now without retaking. Any thoughts?

I finally got my LSAT score, and I went from a 163 in September to a 166 on the Dec 1 test. I am pretty happy with that, as it puts me above the 75% at every school I want to apply to, except one that I don't even know if I really want to attend. However, a 166 is lower than every score I have had on a prep test after I began studying.Before I began I got a 160 and 158 on prep tests. During my studies this summer I got I believe a 168,169, and 170. However, because of a very hectic semester, I had to stop studying before I took the actual tests. Should I retake in January? The only reason would be to place myself at the LSAT median of UVA (the one school I mentioned earlier) and to increase my chance for scholarships at all the other schools.

My current numbers are 4.00/166, and I think I have strong recs and pretty okay softs. How likely am I to get significant or full scholarships? Would retaking make much of a difference? Would applying late December/early January still put me in a position to get these scholarships?

Right now, I think my first choice is Wake Forest, but I still need to visit other places like Washington & Lee, William & Mary, and others with similar stats in NC and VA.

We can take PT's and then get together to blind review together. Let's get something going.

So I got my scores from the November LSAT and have now decided to cancel the January LSAT that I preemptively registered for. I had no idea this would be so complicated and I just sent in the refund request form, but LSAC replied that the process will take three weeks. In the meantime, I've realized my applications are now on hold until those scores theoretically come in or LSAC cancels my registration.

Has anyone dealt with this before? Is there a faster way to get them to cancel the the registration or do I just have to email every single school and explain the situation?

Thank you!

Hi, all!

I got a 164 in June and a 159 in November (yeah, that drop was pretty painful). I submitted applications to schools where the 164 is at/above the 75th percentile mark, and one of them sent me an email that my application has been marked PENDING because I registered for the January LSAT (I understand that's typical practice for some schools).

Question: should I leave the application as pending, or ask them to review my application with the scores currently on file?

Additional info: weak GPA, 7-8 years out of undergrad. Decently strong softs and work history.

Any advice welcome! Thanks!

I have seen the academic summary report that LSAC has generated for me that has all the summary data from my transcript, but do law schools get my real transcript and see which classes I have taken?

I need to improve around 10-15 points for what my goal score is.. I know this is a lot however I have had no previous tutoring and also know it would take time for this score to gradually come up. However, is this the program I should be using to improve my score? I am planning on buy the 3 month package.

I have heard so many things about how many times you should and should not take the LSAT, I am wanting to get into the University of Oklahoma and my score was not high enough to do so from the November test. (I am wanting to apply when I will receive scholarship) However people have told me not to take it too much because that will look bad? I was thinking as long as I improve each time I should be okay right?

Hey 7Sagers,

We're posting on behalf of a 7Sager. They would like to get advice from you!

I self studied for two months and took about 10 full practice tests under timed conditions. From these prep tests my diagnostic was a 153, my average LSAT score was a 167, and I managed to break a 171 on exactly one of the tests. It might be worth noting that my highest score was on an exam that had a relatively simple logic games section and did not feature comparative reading passages, which the test I used for my diagnostic did include.

I finally sat for the November LSAT and left feeling unsure of how I did. I missed one entire game due to my pace and had to guess for all of its corresponding questions. Therefore I assumed that my score would at least be saved by my LR and RC performance, which I was respectively averaging -2 and -3 per section during my prep tests.

I received a 156 on my real LSAT. Needless to say I was completely disheartened upon seeing the score, but have since done a full review of the questions I got wrong and am currently looking to improve and try again.

I got around 8 questions wrong per section. A noticeable pattern for the LR questions I missed was that upon Blind Review, I noticed that each of them featured question stems that I was unable to immediately identify. I had to return to my LR Bible to pinpoint their exact classifications. I was able to get most of the right after my BR.

For more context, I entered the exam with absolutely no reading comprehension prep. I just ordered the bible this weekend. I spent the two months of prep devoting around 4 fours five days a week to LR and LG. All the way leading up to the real exam, I was unable to complete most logic games under 8 minutes, but I was completing them with 100% accuracy at about a 15-10 minute average.

Considering all of this information, what do you suggest I do to maximize my potential on the next exam? How should I make the most out of the time remaining on my 7SAGE account. It expires in Feb and I have to retake in Jan of 2019 given that my heart is 100% set on attending law school in the fall of 2019.

Already thanks to the feedback of some great 7sagers I have rewritten my personal statement. Now I need some feedback on my latest version. Is anyone wanting to do a personal statement swap?

My resume also needs review. I have a science background and currently it contains a lot of jargon. I need to decide what to keep in while not taking away the meaning of an entry. If anyone would like to do a resume swap please let me know.

Thank you 7sage for this kind of group feedback! The discussion board and admissions course has really helped guide me in how to approach applications.

Hey everyone,

So I used the law school predictor tool using my stats as a URM: 3.39 and 152 LSAT and it says I have a 79% chance?

I don't mean to undermine the methods here, but it almost sounds too good to be true. Anybody have experience applying here or know anybody with similar stats as mine and how they may have fared?

If it helps to know I also have a Masters and have been a bilingual middle school teacher for 5 years.

Any help would be appreciated, thank you so much!

Hi everyone, I am re-writing the LSAT on Jan. 26 after scoring a 157 on the November test. The goal would be a 160, which I have consistently scored on my PTs. My problem area is logic games, I can never seem to do a full 4 games in 35 min and even the three games that I complete I still get questions wrong. I have never tried the foolproof method and am wondering how I would approach it with limited time for studying. I will have two weeks over Christmas break where I will be able to study 25 hours a week and then I leave for vacation for 2 weeks. I am back on Jan. 5th and will have significantly less time in the weeks leading up the test as I will be back in school.

Any advice??

Hello All,

I have been working a full time job for the past 2 years since graduating college. I see a lot of people here have taken a part time job or quit working altogether to study for the LSAT. I think that's a great idea, but not realistic for me. I need the full time pay and health insurance that a job provides. If anyone has advice on how they balanced a full time job and studying I would love to know. I had to delay another year because I was unable to find the balance between studying and working. I am afraid that delaying the test will just end me up in the same position as I am in right now. #HELP