Hi everyone,

I recently just took my first fully timed PT after completing the CC. I did not take a diagnostic test so I don't know how much I would have improved by. I got a 152 on PT 37 with a BR of 166. My section breakdown is as follows:

Section 1 RC: -6 / BR: -4

Section 2 LR: -12 / BR: -6

Section 3 LG: -11 / BR: -0

Section 4 LR: -10 / BR: -4

I'm disappointed with this score, as I was hoping it would be closer to 160. I have fool-proofed 1-35 by individual game and am working on finishing the FPing 1-35 by sections. For the past several days leading up to the test I was going -3 or less on logic game sections. During the PT I finished logic games on time, but I think I was so stressed out with the clock that I made dumb errors on easy questions.

During the BR process the games seemed much easier and the inferences really stood out to me, maybe since I was more relaxed with no clock. To fix the issue I plan on continuing to FP 1-35 by section and the new games I complete as I do PTs.

For LR I feel like I know how to solve each question type, but the time constraint + mental exhaustion seems to bring my score down. When I BR LR I can quickly and clearly see why my answer was wrong. (except for some 4 and 5 star questions).

Honestly I don't really have a strategy for RC, although I have been practicing with the LRS method.

The somewhat good news is that my goal score is 165 so at least I know I am theoretically capable of scoring in that range. I don't plan on applying until September 2019 so I have plenty of time and 4-5 attempts to take the test.

I plan on using Analytics to hammer out all my weak areas for LR.

Is there anything else I can do to decrease the stress when I take a fresh PT? I would assume my familiarity with taking PTs will lower my stress after a while.

Does anyone have any advice on how to best improve? I have watched the Post-cc Webinar and plan on implementing all the strategies offered. I would imagine I probably just have to serve my time now as it relates to drilling, intensives, FPing, and BRing.

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I already have two academic letters but I am trying to decide who I should ask for a third letter. Since I have been out of school for a couple years, should I ask from a law-related internship supervisor or from a non law-related work colleague? In comparison to the semester long internship that took place three years ago, I have worked with this colleague on two major projects over the past two years. I call him a colleague because he has never been my direct supervisor but still a senior staff. My dilemma is that I did a lot of policy writing and advocacy work, which I think matter more to law schools than the quantatitive and managerial work I did for my job. However, my job is obviously a lot more recent than the internship. Would it look bad on me if I have been working for the same job for the past 2.5 years but don’t get a recommendation from work? Any help will be greatly appreciated! Thank you!

Hi,

I took my first lsat in September and did not reach my goal score. I am writing my second lsat on November 17, and would like to increase my score by approx. 10 points. Since I am retaking the lsat, I have already done self-studying by reading books and doing drills, so I am familiar with most of the basic concepts/strategies. My score seems to be stuck at this point, so I don’t think self-studying by just reading and doing practice questions/tests will help me reach my target score. This is why I am interested in purchasing a 7sage course, maybe the starter passage, to assist me with studying for retaking the lsat. My question is, if I purchase a course with 7sage, what would an effective 1 month study schedule look like? Considering that I have already done the basics while i self-studied for my first LSAT (familiarizing myself with basic strategies, doing drills, few practice tests).

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I wanted to know if anyone has been granted accommodation (extra time) by just going to the doctor your physician refer you too. Meaning that would be the only proof the person has. I do suffer from anxiety (plus other things) every time I take a test no matter how much I try to calm myself and not think about it. I noticed lsac has a list of the things that would help for the approval of accommodation. But I never requested extra time on my exams in grade school or college. I took the ACT and SAT such a long time ago but I went to a community college so never really cared about my score.Can Someone guide me?

UPenn is doing an open house at a law firm in NYC today and I was wondering if office attire is recommended, for the reason the location is a law firm. I know the answer is probably going to lean towards yes. What do you guys think?

I am using a logic game practice book from kaplan that was given to me by someone else and i noticed that during one of my drills that i got an answer wrong on a question where it makes you "remake the game rules" ex. m-s is now s-m and i got the answer wrong. When looking at the answer explaination it makes a suggestion to skip this question bc it can be more time consuming and the time could be used somewhere else. What you do believe about this statement?

My follow up question would be, i believe i read that you should answer every question and not leave any blank bc only correct answers count for your score. I was taking a practice test and ran out of time on the section so i did not finish the section. I was wondering if i know for some reason i am 5 minutes from the section ending if it would be more beneficial to have the questions answered than not?

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I remember a few people missed the Sept test so if you want to take November you can register for it until midnight tonight. I believe LSAC doesn't give extensions. Good luck.

Hello fellow 7sagers!

I have a PS question that falls into a general admissions question. Apologies in advance for the length.

The majority of schools I am applying to have a general "tell us about an experience that shaped you" PS prompt. With the help of the $10 admissions add on, I crafted a story about my time as a collegiate athlete and how that experience shaped me into the person I am. I do not talk about law at all, nor does that experience contribute to my desire to study law. However, a couple of schools I am applying to have a specific "tell us about an experience that has contributed to your decision to study law" prompt. I am all but certain I want to study environmental law. I have a few years of experience working in the environmental field and have experiences that I can write about which lead me to my decision to pursue law school.

That being said, I am leery of focusing too much on the specific type of law I would like to study, which is environmental. Although I am almost certain that is what I want to do, I understand that you must take all types of classes in law school and who knows, I could take a class and love it and decide to go a different route (but probably not).

My resume including my undergraduate degree is environmental heavy. So, my question is, do you think that it could be detrimental to my application to focus on a specific type of law in my personal statement? Or do admissions committees view that as a positive factor, seeing I do have a few years work experience in that particular field?

Any advice is much appreciated! Thank you in advance.

I found an aba accredited jd

degree. I am looking to going into public interest law so I should be fine right?

I am super perplexed on where to go from here, my goal admission is for the 2019 Fall Cycle. After a year of studying and Pt'ing in the Low 160's, I finally bulked up the courage to take the September LSAT after a debacle of a December 2017 score and fell 8 points shorter of my avg. at a 152 and hold a 3.6 GPA. I went -8 on RC (normally -1/-2, the first passage did me over), -8/-13 on LR, and -11 on LG (struggled to concentrate here as the guy next to me was being removed from the LSAT Testing Center). I foolproofed LG 1-20 and PT'ed 56-75 using other sections from 1-20 as my fifth. I went through Kaplan worst decision ever and then moved over to 7Sage for the past 9 months. I am a full time elementary school teacher and know I can get into most of my desired schools with a potential 75-80% scholarship if I hit a 161 and some full rides. I just truly don't know what would be a good starting point to pick back up and if even bumping up a score by 8 points by November is even possible. I am really stuck and don't know if to roll with the punches and see how ED apps go or to retake and post-pone applications for a few months. I am petrified that my score would fluctuate again putting me in worse shoes than I already am. HELP :D

I know that applying in Feb as opposed to November decreases one's chances of getting accepted, but does this affect the amount of scholarship money one might get? For example, lets say someone that was accepted is offered 60k, could that person have been offered more if they applied sooner? Is there like a certain amount of funds schools can give out that is given out on a rolling basis? Thanks :)

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I have hard time understanding the answer choice C;

It is a claim...cited by the argument as evidence of its truth...

What does "its" refer to?

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Hi everyone,

I took the LSAT twice this year, in June and September. I got a 161 in June after fudging up my pacing and guessing on too many questions, so I thought this was a good sign going forward if my minimum goal was mid to high 160s. All I needed to do was work on my pacing, right? In the following two months, I felt my understanding of the test got even stronger, and in isolation, I was very good at answering all question types. However even with more conscious timing, I was getting low 160s on PTs, with the rare 169 and 170 on older tests. I was confident that at least I could not do worse in September, but to my horror I did: 159. I am still in shock. I feel discouraged and burnt out, and know it would not be wise to take it again this year.

I am aiming at top 25 schools, which makes these scores all the more upsetting. Fortunately I have a very high undergrad GPA, a strong personal statement and good recs, but I know the LSAT score is key. My question is this: should I apply for 2019 with my application as is, knowing that I will likely not get into my top choice schools, and theoretical try to transfer in my second year? Or should I wait and take the LSAT again next year and apply for 2020? Besides my own personal urgency to apply now, I also have exhausted all recent PTs (save for future tests), and honestly do not think I will get much better at undertanding the test or how to answer questions. I feel like the problem is just the physical taking of the timed test, for whatever reason. In other words, I don’t know how much my official score will improve.

Any and all thoughts/advice welcome.

Thank you!!

Hey friends. I firmly agree with the 7Sage logic that completing PTs under test like conditions lessens anxiety because the process becomes familiar over time. The thought of taking 30+ PTs on paper only to write the formal exam using an unfamiliar digital system makes my palms start to sweat. Since the LSAT will be administered only in digital form from Sep 2019 onwards, will we have a chance to complete practice tests using the interface or an app that mimicks it?

I know this has probably been covered many times in the past, so I apologize for any repetition. I've been focused on fool-proofing logic games from tests 1-35, for a little while now. Logic games is my weakest section (averaging -11, compared with a -2 in LR and a -4 in RC), so I decided to double down on logic games for a little while. I've been improving, with a range of -1 to -11, but mostly in the -5 to -7 range. I'm wondering how much I should be beating myself up for struggling with the incredibly "weird" games, such as game 4 from PT 11 (I shouted some expletives out loud after reading the rules). As long as I'm doing well on the "standard" games, should I not worry too much? My understanding is that save for a few occasional exceptions, most of the modern logic games are pretty "standard".

If I can trouble people with another brief question, how many logic games sections did you have to fool-proof before things really "clicked" for you?

Thank you all in advance for the help!

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I wanted to know if any of you have tried or currently studying using 7sage plus another source such as Khan, tutors, books etc....

Has anybody tried Khan Academy prep?

Thank you!

I'm preparing for the November test, which will be my second attempt. Does anyone have any good study strategies that work for them in preparing to take the test again?

Hi y'all. So, I registered to take the Nov test, but with school and other stuff, I really have had no time to prepare. First, when I registered, I thought I would be able to designate time for studying, but unfortunately, that was not the case. So, should I still take the test with no preparation after all I paid for it. Do law schools consider the average, or do they receive all the scores I get in the past? I am very worried. Please help, thank you!!

I have read about Northwestern accepting students with one or more years of work experience. Does anyone know what kind of work experience? I have had two 4 month internships relating to accounting/law and have also served as a tutor for over a year. However, I was wondering whether the work experience they look for has to be all law related.

Hi y'all,

It's the passage about serotonin and I have a quick question. I was down to A and D and chose D and then switched to A. At first I was drawn to D because it said the body's desire for carbs CAN BE influenced by serotonin... And the second sentence in the first paragraph says "The answer to this question IS NOT KNOWN but ... SEEMS TO BE... SEROTONIN..." Not known/seems to be matches with Can be in the answer choice whereas A) says VARIES with. The author is less confident than that. Was I thinking the right way the first time?

Thank you!

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These are all my incorrect questions that pop up the most as wrong answers. What can I do to fix weaknesses on these types of questions?