Hi All,

I wanted to start a discussion for those who currently live in the SF Bay Area/Silicon Valley. Those who have plans/dreams to attend law school in the SF Bay/Silicon Valley are welcome to join too! #NorCal

I’m curious to see out of those who currently live in the Bay Area, if you plan to attend a local law school or venture on to a new locale. I currently live in the heart of Silicon Valley and will be applying to some of the local law schools, as well as some out of the area/state.

Local Bay Area Schools: Santa Clara Law, Stanford, Berkeley, UC Hastings, Golden Gate, and USF.

Please feel free to share your thoughts. Looking forward to connecting!

I was recently spoke with my 3L friend and he told how skills tested by the Logic Games carry over to law school. He said that law is really a measure of how good you are at puzzles. Can you take a piece of information (the rule), like a puzzle piece, and create a whole picture(your argument) with it in a way that's logical? Have you guys heard something similar in your conversations with law students? Its cool to see that LG, a section that seems so bizarre and unnecessary, is actually very relevant to law school success.

Hello 7sage

I'm writing to try and get a better study schedule going. I'm in post core-curriculum now and I tried setting up a schedule were I'd do a PT every fourth day, but that didnt work because I found myself taking up a lot more time to study my weaknesses. Also I'm currently trying to foolproof the LG's from 1-35 and am having trouble trying to figure out how many times a week I should be doing that versus taking PT's versus studying my weaknesses. Essentially, juggling everything has turned out to be a day by day thing where I have a vague idea of what I'll be working on that day.

A little background. I am currently in grad school, but I actually have a lot of time on my hands. I am only taking two classes on Mondays, so the rest of the week, is pretty much for studying. I'm also currently not working so that helps. I am taking the November LSAT, so I have a little less than 8 months to study. I have been studying since December. So far, I've been averaging 8-5 wrong on LR, 11-5 wrong on RC, and LG, like I said I've just been foolproofing.

I've found that I can study for 5 days a week before mentally burning out. I realize that when I try to study and it feels almost impossible to focus. This is one of those days where I'm feeling mentally blocked so that's why I wanted to reach out to you guys.

So, basically, I'm just trying to find an efficient study schedule I can stick to because I have the time and dedication, I just need to be more organized. Any advise from the kinds of study schedules that has helped you guys, or what you guys recommend would be great.

You guys are awesome,

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Hey Guys,

This week I am meeting with a friend of mine who is a recent Harvard Law grad! I wanted to poll this community to see if you guys had any specific questions for him. I'll be sure to ask him on your and my behalf!

Thanks :)

I get into work every morning, start up my computer, and then open a tab for LSN, LSL, Reddit Law school admissions, and 7sage. I swear I refresh every page at least 2 dozen times a day....and then check the status checker for the 8 schools I'm waiting to hear back from.

And I get SO frustrated when people who submitted their applications after me, and with lower numbers get in. The silence is killing me slowly (and probably annoying all my friends who are sick about hearing about law school applications).

We rush everything.

I couldn't wait to be done the LSAT, then I couldn't wait to finish applications, and now I just can't wait to move and start school. I feel like my life is in this weird holding place. So I'm reminding myself (and anyone who might need it) to chill the eff out.

This is the last spring/summer before we become law students. The last summer to be (somewhat) carefree. The last time we apply to law school, and can sit here and obsessively talk about a process that has consumed our lives with people online who are essentially strangers. Never in my life did I think I'd be on reddit this often. Old me would make fun of new me.

Enjoy the process. Breath. Stop obsessing over something that will happen.

Hey sagers,

I have finally come to the conclusion that i need some help w/ taking my RC to the next level. I am averaging -5 per section but its prettly volatile and i can get as little as 2 wrong or as many as 8. Who would you suggest as a tutor for RC methods and time management

Came across this profile on LSN today. A person who was a splitter and applied very end of January and decided to wait and re-apply early (September) the next cycle. Says in his comments that he didn't re-write his PS or submit different LORs. Basically, the exact same app.

Granted, every cycle is a bit different and splitter cycles can always be unpredictable. But super interesting to see the results from a late app to an early app, with the exact same materials.

First cycle: http://lawschoolnumbers.com/4'sup

Second cycle: http://lawschoolnumbers.com/4'sup1

Definitely food for thought for me as I'm contemplating re-applying earlier next year.

Hi all,

After much contemplation, I decided to hold off law school another year and reapply. My UGPA isn't great (~3.35) and my LSAT score definitely needs improvement. Scholarships are the priority, and understand that I'm aiming pretty high. Does anyone have any suggestions/advice about how to approach a retake? I never really finished the full course (skipped around), and I intend to finish it this time. I wanted some ideas on how to set a schedule for PTs/Drills. I plan to retake and reapply in September.

Any insight is appreciated :)

I know school choice should always be based on the individual person's preferences but I just want to hear some other people's perspectives and if possible, any insight on how to choose a school. I've gotten accepted to Catholic U, American U, and Suffolk. Still waiting on Temple U., Chicago-Kent, Syracuse, Albany, and SUNY (Buffalo). And I'm visiting Suffolk next week.

When doing this question I realize the gap between Wisdom of the masses and Artwork. But after becoming impatient I guess and chose E and moved on. I looked over my diagramming and did the question a second time and got D, I noticed that it was a little off and was hoping someone could walk me through this with a diagram, so I can compare it to mine and figure out how B is the right answer?

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-58-section-4-question-19/

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I recently improved my score from a 154 to a 166 and that is just edging into the good territory for T14s, but I am applying this cycle and decisions are coming very late. I am wondering if I should wait until the next cycle or to continue with a full scholarship at a lower ranked university. I am primarily afraid that I will not have as good of an application given that I will not have great references and lack more stories for a quality personal statement.

Being a Michigan resident, I was really aiming for the University of Michigan, but affordability would be an issue. Any input? I applied to U of M (initially denied, waiting for update), Northwestern, UCLA, Minnesota, UC Irvine, Notre Dame, Indiana - Bloomington, University of Washington (denied), U Colorado - Boulder (waitlisted), Michigan State ($126k), and Wayne State (100% tuition).

(Warning: Spoiler aler... t?)

In an ideal world, each of us would treat each RC passage equally. No passage (type) would be preferred over another; all LSAT candidates from different backgrounds would embrace all passages with same curiosity, eagerness, and love. Reality, alas, proves otherwise. One person might hate a specific passage type because he or she finds its subject matter boring or daunting; another might not like a specific passage because the passage was just too hard; still another might dislike a specific passage because there was that one brutal question that affected his or her performance on the rest of the section, along with many others'.

What the title says. Which RC passage(s) haunts you to this date? I do not like the passages on Roy Lichtenstein (the pop artist who used elements from comic books) and Eileen Gray (the architect who used lacquer). I just don't get art except music, but art passages can be quite interesting - passages on Noguchi (the Japanese American sculptor who created the "negative light" sculpture), Cameron (cheesy photography), Schoenberg (and his three-stage musical development), and perfume ("Perfumes are art too!"), for instance. I did not like those two, however. Especially Eileen Gray.

Is there a PDF or print out with all of the valid argument types togther on one page? Am I just not looking hard enough? Thanks!

Hey all,

This may be a stupid question because I haven't started on practice tests yet (except for my diagnostic) but I'm currently going through logic games in the CC and I was wondering if there's some sort of consistent ratio of hard to easy logic games in the 4 games on the actual test. Is it possible that you'd sit down on test day and get 4 easy games, 4 really hard games, 4 medium games, etc. or do they strive for some sort of even breakdown? Thank you!

Hi everyone! I need some guidance on choosing between the two. I'm from D.C. and when applying to schools, I chose to only apply to schools around the VA/DC/MD area. After receiving all of my offers and narrowing it down to two, I'm still having a hard time deciding. I was admitted to UVA(#9) with no scholarship and George Mason (#41) with a full ride. I would like to stay in the D.C. area, but I am also very open to looking at jobs anywhere in the U.S. post-graduation. My biggest fear is the debt I will go into if I were to go to UVA. Does anyone know if I were to go into BigLaw, how long it would approximately take to pay off $180K in loans? Do you all think it's worth it? I don't know any lawyers or law students who I could ask that wouldn't have a biased opinion. Even with a biased opinion, I would just like to hear some real honest opinions. Thanks for the help!

Getting tired of staring at my lil macbook screen but really don't want to spend $1k++ on an iMac so I figured I could just get a cheap PC desktop and hook it up to my laptop. Refurbished iMacs are just as expensive and I'm scared of getting a used one. I obviously could just google this but I'm seeing vague info online about it.

I guess you guys really know what's up with wanting to stay & study law in Cali. Recently just saw this news article and I guess practicing law on the West Coast for many reasons including the people. Thought of all those in the past convo we had.

http://start.att.net/slideshow/category/news/article/att-the_happiest_cities_in_america-att

With UCI's rise to 21st, and Law.com claiming that uci sent 24 percent of its graduates to v100 law firms, do you guys think UCI will rise in prestige or is it topped out? Seeing that the school only recently formed in 2009 makes me surprised that the school has done so well. I do realize that the first few years had high lsat scorws and gpas and were given substantial scholarships. With increasing class sizes and the departure of Cheriminsky, is UCI's rise sustainable or will it crash like crypto. Or maybe the best is yet to come?

I used to never really struggle too hard with PSA/SA. Pretty easy to identify the P --> C gap in the ACs. As I've moved onto the newer exams, I'm finding myself missing points on the harder 4/5-level PSA/SA questions. JY has referenced in the videos that the newer exams do require more mental massaging with SA qs especially. I spent some time drilling SA q's from PT 36-58, but still ended up struggling with difficult PSA/SA qs on PT 60.

I'm going for the choices that somewhat match my predetermined P-->C gap. But the issue here, is under time pressure, I go for the AC that has some of the buzzwords aka is only partially right, and unfortunately end up inviting parts of the answer choice that make it completely wrong. In the process, I end up eliminating AC's that are subtle/don't match my prephase, aka are not the formulaic AC's I typically expect.

I'm wondering now if I need to adopt a new PSA/SA methodology... aka be less dependent on the typical identify the P-->C gap. Asking if anyone has noticed this trend as well and how they dealt with it? Did you change your approach to these questions? Do you still depend on the diagram? How do you prephase?

Thanks!

Hey guys!

I was hoping to get some thoughts on this..... I took the Dec. 2017 test and scored a 146... (horrible I know). I'm registered for the June test right now. I did however send out a few apps with that 146 just to see what happened.

Surprisingly, one of the schools I was really interested in, DePaul, admitted me with a little money as an incentive (36k total). DePaul is ranked poorly, but they are one of the few schools with the program I'm interested in (IP with cultural heritage concentration), they have top professors in that specific field, they offer externships in the field, and they have an LLM which I could get in the same 3 years. I've already got an MA in History and I guess I won them over with my dedication to the cultural heritage field....However, that 36k doesn't go very far- I'd still be in the hole 6 figures and with DePaul's stats, maybe without a job at the end.

I really want to start school this upcoming Fall, but I'd go next year if there was an opportunity for more scholarships if I score higher on the LSAT. My gpa isn't very high (3.34), so the LSAT score is really my only shot. Knowing I'm already in at DePaul however is killing my study vibe.

So I'm really curious, what do you all think? Aim for a retake or take the offer and run? Thanks!!!!

I have a potential seat deposit due next month and still have not heard from some schools I applied to. Ideally, I'd like to know my standing at each school before submitting a seat deposit.

What's the latest standard date to expect a status notification from law schools or does it vary with each school? Thanks!

Parallel method of reasoning question.

I crossed off (c) because of the word 'periodically'. Now I see the structure of elements was more important to find the right answer.

Stimulus:

Gov intend guaranteed production

Gsub -> More Farm -> S Exhaust and RY (opposite of intention)

(c)

Gov intend out off conflict

Armed Forces -> Need Discipline and morale -> periodic combat (opposite of intention)

Also the word 'and' is super tricky. In the stimulus it's used in the third piece and in (c) the second piece.

I think the LSAT moral here is that similarities in argument structure trump differences in content structure.

I was put on a wait list, so I sent that school a LOCI about 2 weeks ago; I got an email a couple days ago saying I have been moved and put on Priority Waitlist. But what is the difference between Priority Waitlist and regular wait list?

Also, how do often should I follow up with the school so I can improve my chance of getting accepted?

Should I send a "Why X School" essay or another LOCI in the next 3 weeks or so?

Any advice on how I can follow up with the school so they don't forget about me, and I don't seem like a stalker?

Thanks so much.

Hi everyone,

I was just accepted into Emory Law, which I’m still freaking out about ! I initially thought I would be accepting Brooklyn’s offer because I want to work in NYC. Goal was Columbia but I’m doubtful I’ll be accepted. If I want to practice in NYC, should I focus more on rank or being situated in NYC? I know Emory is the better school but Brooklyn does pretty well with big law in NYC.

Thoughts ? I don’t know any lawyers in the US, so really 7Sage is my only place to get answers haha.

Ok so I feel as though I am interchanging methods of finding the answer for each of these questions. They're so similar to me and its starting to give me a headache. Can someone lay out in layman's terms how to approach these question types? These are the types I'm having trouble with and MBT are supposed to be freebies. Also is there a chart somewhere that outlines how often each question type appears on the LSAT?