this may be a stupid question , but I have been fool proofing games for about a month and i am up to pt 20, but i was wondering do i need to go back and do old games that i have done from the previous weeks? The way i have been doing the games are, First i start out doing the game with a stop watch record my time, then i would watch the video then do that game the next day, and if i get all the answers right after doing it under-timed condition i would move on to the next game. I do notice that i am improving and my speed is getting better but i dont want to skip a step.

Hello,

So I'm finding that I'm doing fairly well on the LR section until I get to Q's18-26 and then for some reason, I can't get a hold of the remaining questions. Obviously these are the more difficult questions, but I was wondering what strategies people used in order to combat this difficulty besides just studying more. For example, has anyone tried doing those questions first? Any tips or advise are welcome, I just keep hitting a wall every time I get to those later questions and I wanted to know how other people dealt with it effecively.

Thanks!

Is blind review for an LR section -2 good? On the timed part I got -6..... First shot doing a timed section in a while :D. This method seems to be key. On a diagnostic I got -11 on LR! Taking June Test...

So I don't kill trees / pay for copier toner CEO's grandchildren's education.

As I force myself to take a week off studying (took Feb LSAT and went into it knowing I would retest), I am spending this week doing some administrative things to prep for the next study build. I plan to work on fool proofing LG hard and have ~110 LG games I've already seen that I will use to grind through, I am planning on modifying the logistics of the method for my own uses. As printer toner for my copier costs a mint, I am only printing out a single copy of each LG. I have placed each LG in a document protector and filled a 2 inch notebook with the games. Instead of killing trees / toner burning x10 copies each, I'm just using colored dividers to create subsections in the notebook according to where each LG game is in my process. Today's game, tomorrow's game, take in x days, un-mastered/mastered. It will be slightly different in that I won't mark up the actual game to do my practice, but by this point, I know how to use the page during an actual PT or test. So I only move the one page LG (in its own cozy document protector) to the appropriate place in the folder and practice the game as scheduled. I'm actually still performing the LG fool proofing steps without paying for Lord Business' next Caribbean vacation.

YMMV, just sharing a technique.

Does anyone know how to contact Larry Law Law, the owner of the 0L prep course called (KTCOOLs)? I was wondering if his course was still available. I recall reading a promo saying that it will end indefinitely.

Hi all - I'm currently working on the Yale application, wherein they recommend submitting a resume and limiting it to a single page. I'm wondering if others who have worked for 5 or more years after graduating college are having trouble limiting to one page, and if it's advisable to submit a two page resume? I've had 3 jobs post grad, 3 internships during school, a publication, and some misc. sports awards and other honors. Including everything on a single page would mean not putting much (or any) detail for each job position. As an alternative, does it make sense to exclude the internships? They were long ago, but still meaningful experiences. Also a portion of the application specifically asks for internship experience and other work completed during studies, maybe it's not necessary to include it in both places? In other words, the resume could be just for honors, awards and publications and the other parts of the application can cover work experience (both pre and post-grad)?

Would be great to hear how others have approached the resume. The application doesn't specify the exact components they expect to see in it

Thanks!

Hari

When you have taken the LSAT and submitted transcripts do law schools get an early view of your profile? Why do visiting law schools at my campus ask for my LSAC number? Is there any way law schools view you and are interested or is it only after you submit an application? Do law schools actively hunt for potential students or they just wait until the application period opens and see who submits?

Hi all -

I'm panicking about everything - June test, applications, LORs, emails to schools, strategy. I'm trying really hard to stay as calm as possible and focus on studying but its hard. I've been thinking for a while that I should probably work with a professional and I'm trying to figure out how to go about it. David Busis is an option as well as a few others. I just don't know if I'm having a knee-jerk reaction to my anxiety/stress or if working with a consultant will get me to where I need to be.

A little about me - I'm not a 4.0/160 person. My numbers are below medians and most cases below the 25th percentile. I know its going to be hard for me to get in to a decent school but I don't want to spend thousands of dollars for someone to tell me I'm not going to get into a decent school. What I DO want is to talk to a professional about my LOR, resume and various questions that come up regarding my application. But damn, they all charge thousands!! I feel like I'll be in debt before I even start law school :(.

Any help on your experience with consultants and how you chose one would be appreciated.

Hi guys,

I was working through PT25/S3/Q7 when I read this phrase and wondered, "is it a biconditional?"

"warranted" means "sufficient", so to re-phrase the statement would be: "X can be sufficient only when Y"

X---> Y

Y-->X

Please correct me if I'm wrong!

Thank u!

(Happy Valentine's Day!)

Ok, so I have been pondering this for a while but haven't posted anything because well...I've been embarrassed. I started initially studying for the LSAT about 3 years ago, at first I didn't realize how serious this test was so I kind of just went into Barnes and Noble and bought run of the mill LSAT Prep Books, a Kaplan book and even an LSAT Prep book for Dummies(smh) at the time I was working full time teaching high school in Miami. Fast forward to the fall of 2016 I started to get a little more serious, I bought the LSAT Trainer and thinking that I would have more time on my hands in the spring of the year while I was still teaching (wth) I signed myself up for an in-person Testmasters course. Testmasters was pretty great except for the cost and the fact that I didn't actually have the time to work on the assigned homework outside of class. After this I decided to move back home and find a job that would allow me the time to focus on studying for this exam, I loved teaching, but it can be extremely taxing and I didn't believe it would allow me the time to do what was necessary for this test. This past winter I was attempting to self-study by using practice tests and drilling, but I realized that I really need video explanations to help me improve and a schedule to follow to keep me on track so I spent a bucket of cash to extend my Testmasters course for the December 2017 test. I though about extending it again but I realized 1.) I wasn't getting explanations for the all the questions I needed, often times I would have to ask "academic support" and wait a day for a response and 2.) the courses were only for 2-3 increments, I am still working full time and while I plan to study full time during the summer, I don't have the time to do so now.

I am posting this because I really need some advice, if someone asked me to run analytics on my LSAT profile I would definitely say that TIME is my biggest issue. I was always the last person finishing a test in high school and college, I may have gotten everything right, but I definitely didn't race to the finish line. I have a good grasp of the basics, and how to approach the different types of questions in LR and focusing on structure in RC. I would definitely say Logic Games are my weakness, but I would also say that Reading Comprehension is the section on which I need to increase my speed the most. Keeping that in mind I have been thinking about focusing on Fool Proofing until I reach -0 on Logic Games and starting the Premium course to get myself on a schedule for RC and LR.

I was originally thinking about doing the June 2018 LSAT but I am off during the summer so I though this would be a great opportunity to focus on studying full time to take the July or September test, but I want to put myself on a schedule now rather than leaving my intense studying until the summer; I also want to keep things fresh so I don't have to go back and re-teach myself key lessons.

What do you guys think? I want to focus on Fool Proofing using the Pacifico Method until I am able to consistently score -0 in LG but I also don't want to forget the skills for LR and RC. Should I put off PT-ing until I have been able to reach -0 in LR/LG and RC? Or am I thinking about this totally wrong? My apologies if this seems confusing my your help is much appreciated!!!

I used to work with an attorney who agreed to write an LOR for me. We weren't employed at the same agency but did a lot of work together and served on some of the same committees. She left her position not to long ago to serve as an assistant director at one of the schools I'm applying to, so she wrote the letter for me on the school's letterhead.

I also asked for my last two supervisors to write me letters, which they both agreed but haven't submitted yet, which as you might imagine is causing me some anxiety. I had planned to submit my academic LOR and the attorney's LOR to this one particular school, but I'm wonder what the community thinks? Does it seem like it'll matter that one of their own staff wrote me the letter (and I believe it's a pretty decent letter)? Or would they prefer to hear from my actual employer instead?

Thanks!

So i plan on taking the june administration and i have 12 fresh PTs sprinkled from 50-83 i plan on spreading them out over the next 4 months so that i can use them as a proper benchmark. My question is should i supplement older PTs [from 35-50] which are untouched or should i reuse the tests i have taken from the 60s. Thanks in advance

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This paradox question seemingly has two correct answers: A and E. The paradox is that HE (home ownership) corresponds with prosperity while HE also corresponds with unemployment. Choice A deals with how it can correlate with unemployment while E deals with how it correlates with prosperity ("economically secure" is synonymous enough with "economic prosperity"). Both answers seemingly fall short of explaining the other side of the paradox. However, I chose E on the basis the A was more wrong in that it states that owning a home makes it harder to move to a region "where jobs are MORE plentiful" (emphasis added). We are not precluding jobs from being plentiful from where our home is. Just that on the "plentiful scale", our region is lower.

At the end of the day though, Choice A is correct and I haven't found any forum that adequately explains why. Here's my explanation. Please share your thoughts on it.

The stimulus is not concerned with why HE correlates with prosperity. The author seems to take it for granted and already understands it. His wonderment begins at the second sentence when he introduces the correlation to unemployment. In other words, his real question is why HE can ever correspond to unemployment. And Choice A is the only answer that addresses this issue. This is not really a paradox question in my opinion but more of a Strengthener.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-75-section-3-question-05/

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Hey guys,

I know that most of you guys are aware that there will be more test dates added this year, however, I was wondering if anyone knew when we would be able to register for them...

I am already registered to take the exam in June but would prefer to take it in July...does anyone know if that would be possible?

I dont think I am technically a retaker you will see why - I was scheduled to take this February test, BUT due to a personal crisis situation I could not take the test :(, yeah life happens too!!!

I am shooting for the 2019 app cycle and am planning on registering for the test in June 2018. My avg PT score is 168, which is not great I know but was a journey from my 153 diag score (shout out to JY's CC and 7sage community).

I have been working for a big technology company for the past 6 years a.k.a hectic 50 to 60 hr work week + I am a parent of a toddler.

Now with all that said my current situation is that I burned a lot of PT's specially the modern PT's 70 -83. I tried to be very diligent and do a thorough BR after each PT, I only have PT77 and PT78 untouched which sucks. I finished the CC last year. As for sections I am good with LG -0 mostly and sometimes -1 if i hit a hard games, LR is decent, RC is my worst section (-7 avg) I am still haunted by a -11 on PT74 RC.

I am paralyzed and not sure how to proceed with the prep for June, I now want to aim for 170+. My brain is still reeling from recent events and I cant think of how to prep and how to PT. Also, since RC is my weakest section I tried drilling earlier RC's before the february test and they seem way different (easier) after doing 70+. I will take a 2-3 week break come back renew my 7sage account to begin with.

Please advise on a prep strategy, after all that rambling I want to say I have been on 7sage for 1 and half year now learned so much and very good to hear 7sagers success stories, very motivating.

Hi all, I'm applying to school in the fall and am going to start requesting my LOR's now (1. to get it out of the way and 2. to give some of my writers time to do it without feeling rushed on their end as I know they have busy schedules). Here are the people I'm going to ask to write LORs for me:

Graduate school professor that was also on my thesis committee. I did well in her classes, I feel confident that she "liked" me, and would write me a good LOR. I also volunteered to do my thesis on a project she was working on so I'm hoping there is some vested interest there. I was in grad school 2009-2011 so this is my most recent college experience (obtained my UG degree in 1998 and I couldn't pick out 95% of my UG professors out of a line up at this point).

Former boss (military) that is my mentor and who I have had an over 15 year professional and personal relationship with.

Former military work colleague that was a military lawyer and is now a successful lawyer in civilian practice.

The principal at my daughter's elementary school who can speak to my volunteer work within the school. For the last two years, I have performed significant volunteer service for my daughter's school. I am the coach of her basketball team, assistant coach of the school's track team, I am the "Wednesday lunch parent" (translation - provide adult supervision for a 2 hour lunch / recess period for the school every Wednesday, year round), class librarian (work the library for the class every other Thursday), and Girls on The Run practice parent (bring snacks twice a week for the school's GOTR program).

QUESTION (s): I believe that admissions committees would prioritize the LORs in the order above (as far as relevance / usefulness in the decision process. Agree / disagree? Any issues with any of the potential LOR writers or are there any other "type" of person I should be looking for? Note: Finding someone to write a quality LOR from my UG days is going to be extremely tough since, you know, Bill Clinton was president, Seinfeld was still airing new episodes, and mp3s were invented that year...

I just wanted to hop on real fast and say sorry to the community! I haven't been super active the past week or so because I'm stressing out over some stuff the LSAC is doing and it's impacting my applications horribly. I promise once this is resolved I'll be able to get back to answering questions and giving suggestions/motivation!

I'm still here! :D

I have no experience at all with the LSAT except for the 1st 4 lessons on here. Should I do the diagnostic test now or should I come back after I’ve done some more of the course work? I know that the point of a diagnostic is to gauge where I stand, but I don’t even know what the test looks like or what kind of questions to expect…is it worth it to bomb the first one out of inexperience or would it be more productive to wait until I see how the test questions are formatted?

So I've been fool proofing post CC. I started out on a schedule of 1 PT a day, drilling each game on day 1, 2, and 7. I'm figuring out that games are stacking very quickly. For example here is what a 7th days spread looks like with the method above. Day 1: PT1 Day 2: PT 1&2 Day 3: PT 3&2 Day 4: PT 4&3 Day 5: PT 5&4&1 Day 6: PT 6&5&1 Day 7: PT 7&6&3&1

What begins as a reasonable load quickly adds up to 4 PTs in one day, which is overkill in my opinion. Then on day 5 or 7 if I have missed even one question from the day 1 PT I will attempt it until a perfect score. I've now abandoned the original schedule. Instead, I have been doing 1 PT per day and simply attempting at least 4 other questions that had the lowest time or scores in prior games.

Does anyone have a suggestion for a cleaner, more methodical approach to fool proofing? I occasionally catch myself being biased and selectively choosing to repeat games that are difficult, but I actually enjoy over the games that I hate.

Tell me what you think your top 5 favorite courses will be with whatever prior knowledge you have about the courses. This does not have to be the end all be all LOL.

ABA 1L courses include

civil procedure

constitutional law

contracts

criminal law and criminal procedure

legal writing and research

property law

torts

I think mines will be

4.Property law

Sometimes we'll receive a notification or message about a webinar or a message about our progress. I think they appear in a little chat box when you first receive them. How do I access those? They're not in my inbox.

Edit: Found them! They're on the Contact Us page.

Hello everyone,

I am an UMR (first generation Mexican-American) and a bunch of priority deadlines are this Thursday so I just want to make sure I'm not overlooking a certain school. I know the ivy leagues tend to be good for this but based on my LSAT and GPA of 159 and 3.24, I am not applying to those schools.

I am applying to UC Hastings (top choice), Chicago- Kent, UC Irvine, U of Wisconsin.... any other recommendations?

So far I have submitted apps for Pepperdine, USD and U of Denver.

Thank you,

Stephanie

Hi Everyone,

I wanted to quickly introduce myself. I just recently purchased the 7sage course after taking a 3 month LSAT prep course through another company and sitting for the Feb 18 LSAT. My practice test scores were all coming out between low to high 160's, but I definitely do not feel I performed that way on test day.

I tried doing my PT's under accurate test day conditions, but oh boy does the real thing still feel different. I definitely succumbed to test day anxiety and found myself rushed on certain sections and struggling on question types I'm normally pretty confident in.

Anyway, my question is what is the consensus on score cancellations? I see this course recommends longer study times before sitting for your first LSAT, and now that the two-year limit has been removed and LSAT sends your average score on all LSAT's as well as individual scores to schools - is it worth considering a cancellation if you feel you under performed where you should be?

Thanks, and looking forward to chatting with everyone!

Anyone else have this issue? I've reinstalled the app.