Hello everyone.

Long story short. Life happened and it took me 6 years to graduate. I had multiple semesters I had to withdraw from which resulted in 36 hours of W's.

The LSAC has calculated these W's as F's and my 3.5 gpa is now a 2.62.

On this page https://www.lsac.org/aboutlsac/policies/transcript-summarization#excluded under the heading Grades Excluded from Conversion, the very first point on the list is "Withdraw, Withdraw/Pass—only if the issuing school considers the grade nonpunitive"

So my question is, if my final transcript shows a 3.5 wouldn't these withdrawals be non-punitive? I am understanding the word punitive as my school would use these W's in my GPA calculation as zero.

I have also looked at the site https://www.lsac.org/transcriptkeys/igugs-search.aspx

My school has this listed:

Excluded From Both LSAC and School☼ Calculation

☼Passing grades from systems with fewer than three passing grades (e.g., High Pass/Pass/Fail) are not necessarily excluded from the school's GPA calculation.

Unconverted: CR,P

Omitted: AU,GNR,I,IP,NG,NGR,NR,W,WN

Nonpunitive: (This section is BLANK)

So the Nonpunitive section is blank but W's are listed under Omitted. Maybe I am answering my own question here but do I have a shot at challenging the LSAC's GPA calculation?

Thank you in advance and good luck to everyone here.

PS. I'm kind of starting here to feel the situation out and will contact my registrar soon.

I see these posts a lot on 7sage about students who are unable to reign in their inconsistencies with RC. In my recent prep, I've noticed the same phenomenon. For a given section I might finish a 5/5 difficulty passage + questions in 8 minutes and miss only 1 question, but on another 3/5 difficulty passage in the same section it takes me 14 minutes and I miss -3/7. The answer to the inconsistency question here is probably "exposure" but are there any other methods or principles that you all have used that help you approach and tackle an RC section with consistency in mind?

Another thing that I've noticed is that there doesn't seem to be a difficulty gap between passages in RC, they all feel equally hard to me, regardless of difficulty rating - unlike LG where difficulty is highly predictive of performance.

Does the LSAC still allow a watch with a non-click rotating bezel?

Hi all,

As a splittter I know I have a really good chance of ending up on the waitlist and I would love to know if after taking the September and November LSATs (and probably getting waitlisted) if I should also count on taking the January LSAT to try to get off the waitlist. Should I even consider taking the June LSAT to get off the waitlist???

Or do I just have to proceed with sending out LOCIs and crying? (LOL)

ALSO: Unfortunately, waiting for the next cycle and re-applying is definitely not an option for me.

Thanks!

Hello everybody!

I recently wrote a draft of my diversity statement. I wrote it on being a first generation high school graduate and working my way through college (working on a farm, McDonald's, Mexican restaurant, Marriott hotel, Sears). I worked a bunch!

I shared my diversity statement with a couple of friends in law school and they were confused and asked why I didn't write it on being a Latina or a woman. I don't feel like those two aspects of my background are as important in my development as my first gen status/work experience has been. I could definitely write a story on being a Latina. I went to an all white school most of my childhood and my family would accuse me of acting white when I spoke. (I've read this diversity statement a dozen times from other applicants-doesn't feel new)

What do you all think?

Saw this online and thought I'd share...

You are very lucky and privileged to have access to almost unlimited knowledge and you should appreciate that.

Be one of those rare people who step over their insecurities and succeed.

Only 5 minutes. Only today. (Repeat it 5 minutes later and every day)

You will know what to do as soon as you start. Ideas never appear from inactivity.

Make yourself proud.

One hour every day doesn't feel like much but it's 365 hours a year. You can't not succeed after so much work.

It's not supposed to be easy. Nothing good is easy.

If you had a child to look after, you'd make them study because you want them to accomplish something. Don't you love yourself?

"Everything you want is on the other side of fear" - George Aair

Every mistake increases your chance to make progress.

If you give up now, you'll have to return to this later anyway but from the very beginning.

Let the process be your result.

Every moment you thought your fears would suppress you has become the time you made it.

Maybe you think you can never find something to use your skills and mindset for. But if you continue investing in what matters to you, it will find its way out there.

I allow you to think globally. You have the right to the boldest of dreams.

On the LSAT is there a difference? I heard JY make a distinction in one of the videos (PT 57 explanations) and I am not sure if there is a major difference between the two. If you are asked to weaken or strengthen a claim, should it be treated the same way as an argument?

Thank you

Chose E, but still not clear why the answer is A. I was turned off from A because "submarine basalt", and could not find this in the passage. Could someone explain answer A? Thank you!

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Hello everyone- I have 1 prof who is writing on of my lors as an academic reference , the school then wants a non academic reference for the second lor . Would it be ok to use a high school teacher providing I volunteered with him in my first year of undergrad. The recent places I worked at were Work study’s so I don’t want a peer to write the lor (they are the supervisors). The same goes for my voulenteer experience. So should I pick a peer supervisor/ coordinator or go with a high school teacher? And I can’t use another prof because they said non academic.

I am new to the 7Sage Community and all the discussion threads are very helpful. I stumbled upon the 7sage by looking for Logic Games explanations and was really impressed. Then after checking the forum and seeing the discussions, I had to join.

My goal was to take the September test and then retake in November and submit my application shortly after (not the best timeline but reasonable). However, due to my work schedule, adjunct course load, and other publishing obligations this past spring I was not able to focus on studying until like May 15th. I finished the LSAT Trainer by Mike Kim and my PTs are at 152 and BR 160. I'm starting Logic games fool-proofing for PT 29 -38 and most likely going to do PT 42 -52 as well.

So my question is, what do you guys think if I skip the September Test and take November and February? I would submit my applications after November Test scores and then update it once Feb scores show. I know earlier applications are better but If everything else in my application is concrete would a late cycle application really adversely affect me an Admission decision for Fall 2019?

Thanks

C.Porter

Following off a thread stating that we should be focusing on pts 60-80s for rc ... does the same hold for lr why or why not

Hi all,

Hope your weeks are off to a good start.

I was doing really well on the logic games section on my practice tests (0-2). But in my last two practice tests, my performance has gone down all b/c I can't figure out one game in the section. I've noticed that both of the games I missed were rule driven, games that don't have allow for a lot of inferences and you just have to rely on the rules to solve the game. I've struggled with rule driven games before as well.

What are some games that you think I should practice?

I’m trying to determine how much money studying with a tutor will cost me. I understand that they charge by the hour; however, I don’t necessarily know how many hours on average one spends with a tutor. I know this number is probably arbitrary but, if you did use a tutor, about how many hours did you spend with him/her? Thank you!

Hello all - I'm working on LR drills and have come across "evaluate" drills package. I don't remember "evaluate" questions in the CC. I did a search and didn't find them. I'm not understanding what I'm supposed to be looking for. If someone can point me in the right direction I would greatly appreciate it.

#help

Hey all,

I was wondering where I can find the prompts to the supplementary essays (specifically for Cornell)? I checked their admissions page but there is only information on the personal statement. Am I looking in the right place/are these prompts only released once apps open in September?

Thanks!

Hello!!

Does anyone know how much scratch paper they provide for the logic games sections?

I do not understand how this answer choice reconciles the discrepancy, I was wondering if anyone could further clarify this for me.

STIMULUS: "Burying Beetles do whatever they can to minimize the size of their competitors broods without adversely affecting their own. This is why they routinely destroy each other's eggs when two or more of the beetles inhabit the same breeding location. Yet, after the eggs hatch the adults treat all the larvae equally, sharing in the care of the entire population."

Answer choice B, the correct answer, states that Burying beetles are unable to discriminate between their own larvae and the larvae of other burying beetles. However, my problem with this answer choice is that the first sentence of the stimulus states that burying beetles do whatever they can to minimize the size of their competitors broods without adversely affecting their own. However, in order to notice this type of pattern within their behavior, wouldn't that imply that they have some sense of which are their brood?

When you guys read an argument, are you guys breaking it down as you read (e.g. the sentence I just read is a premise, this next one is the conclusion), or are you reading the stimulus intuitively to understand what it says, and then evaluating the validity after?

Reaching out to see what some general techniques are for lr (for someone that br, drills question types and has gone through the cc but is not seeing large gains ).

I have been studying for the LSAT for about 1month and 1 week. I have put in about 100 hours total so far for all the sections, but my logic games section is not improving at all. I have used my time thus far to go through the core curriculum so I have only spent about 20 hours probably all together doing logic games, but I feel very discouraged because everyone says they are the most learnable section and I can't figure out why I am having such difficulty. On my diagnostic I got 9 out of 23 questions in the logic games section, 7 out of 23 sections for the second practice test in the LG section, and 8 out of 23 in the LG section on the third practice test I just took today. Do you have any stories of major improvement on the logic games section or any tips? I plan to take the test on November 17 so I still have 4 months left to improve. I do pretty well on the other sections, but the logic games section significantly brings my score down. How long did it take you to improve your logic games section (if you weren't naturally great at it initially). I know it is going to take time, but I'm just worried. It would be nice to hear that someone improved significantly after struggling initially. Also, should I be taking practice tests every 2ish weeks if I haven't finished the core curriculum yet? Thank you.

Hey all,

So i've been slugging away for LR for sometime. I've done all LR sections from 25-50 (mixture of drills, timed sections, etc.)

I've gotten a lot better at really understanding the fundamentals of LR questions. I've gotten my BR score down from -10 to -2 now for across the 2 sections.

The challenge now is bridging the timed gap. For timed, I usually get around -8 wrong per section.

During BR, I can get most if not all of these questions right.

Any advice on how to bridge this gap?

Somethings I've heard about are recording myself take the test and some confidence drills. I've tried recording myself, but have yet to do any confidence drills. Any other advice would be appreciated.

Thanks so much.

Hey guys,

I am planning to take the July 23rd, 2018 exam. I would really like to get a hold of the copy of the June test if I can.

LSAC tells me that I won't be able to get a copy of the June 2018 test until August.

I am wondering if I can get a pdf copy of the June LSAT with the answer key. If any of you took the test, it should be available to you.

In attempts to get some of this material down to intuition, I've seen a lot of people say they have used flash cards to drill constantly. I have only done this with the logical group indicators even though it was like a folded flip sheet but same thing basically. What else have you all placed on flash cards? I know it's a few other things that I can put to use but I do not want to miss anything! If it can help, I want to apply it to flash cards.

Hi all. I'm an international student so please excuse me for my poor writing.

So I plan on applying this cycle, having taken the June LSAT and waiting till the results come out next week. In the meantime I intend to proceed with my application including the personal statement and LORs, but I am having some difficulty deciding whom to ask for a Letter of Recommendation.

I'm in my senior year at college at the moment and I'm pretty confident that I've done a fair job in getting good grades. But when it comes to my relationship with professors, I'm not as confident that most professors I have taken courses from know me well enough to write a convincing LOR.

True, I have had some meaningful interaction with a few of them and I know for sure that they would not hesitate to recommend me, but I'm not so certain as to whether I should ask them; I've only taken a single course from each of them, which I would say is not a very convincing indicator that the recommender is well aware of my qualities.

In short, is it a bad idea to ask a professor for LOR even though I took only one course from them? I would appreciate your advice.

Quick question - how much time should I leave to review LR questions within a section - I've recently gotten quick enough to leave 4-6 minutes to go back over a section; part of that is through picking an answer choice, without 100% certainty, and moving onto the next question.... I have a hard time, mental barrier really, plain old skipping LR questions - I have been able to do that within LG sections and sometimes RC - but not LR. Just curious if anyone else has a similar approach and generally how much time to leave left over for review before time is up? Also, I had a strategy to leave around 10 minutes for the last 5 questions of a section - I've recently succeeded in getting quicker - a positive, that is over only 5 LR sections that I've done recently - so hopefully it carries over to the July LSAT. Sorry for the ramble!