Hey all,

I just did #16 from PT 53, Section 1 --

the stimulus has clear conditional logic indicator words ... like "must," "any", etc. but after I watched the video explanation, i realized that answering the question does NOT use conditional logic/diagramming.

when i first tried to do the problem , I tried using conditional logic -- but got no where.

In the JY's video explanation, he doesn't use conditional logic -- EVEN though there are conditional indicator words.

How do you know whether to diagram (or NOT) -- especially when there ARE conditional logic indicator words?

Many thanks!

May your pencils be sharp, your negations quick, your passages interesting, and your games straight forward!

I took a practice LSAT today and scored a 155. I was 11/23 on logic games which drug me down. My goal score is 160-162. I have just recently started to reengage in logic game improvement. What is a realistic raw score goal to get on Logic games before the June test?

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I am confused as to why answer c is a better answer choice than a. They seem very similar, but is the answer c because there are a range of numbers opposed to using the same number (2) in answer choice a, or is there something bigger that I am missing?

One of the flash card quizzes early on in the curriculum asks to write out the logic for “Carrots cannot grow in the winter”

JY answered it as G —> /W

I understand this bc it’s just one sentence with one subject so obviously the G refers to carrots. I was thinking of it in the context of a long LR question which will probably have multiple subjects and probably compare diff vegetables, so adding a C in there somewhere is a good idea.

I wrote it as C —> /GW

I know that the way it’s labeled is somewhat arbitrary as long as the meaning is the same. I’m not sure if the saying “if [a carrot] grows, it is not winter,” is the same as “if you are a carrot, you don’t grow in the winter”

I guess this is a question of how to label subject/predicate/object/details modifying the predicate within conditionals.

Thoughts?

Someone saw and asked me what happened

My answer? The lsat

I've been really depressed not getting difficult 4-5 questions on LR (many times 3 too). This hurts my overall score so much that I've been consistently getting low 150. I thought I knew how to distinguish question types, how to diagram, and how to approach different types of questions. Now I'm considering hiring a tutor to help me. I wanted to hear what other people have done to overcome...

I know practice is so important but no matter how much I review. I just keep making mistakes and getting everything wrong.

Hi guys,

Forgive me for doing this but i just feel like ranting just a little bit, and hopefully finding a possible solution if there's one. So i've taking the LSAT twice before and i'm taking it again. The college test center that I have and will take it at (since it is the most convenient test center for me) did not provide a spot to place our prohibited belongings (phones, bags, etc). On both occasions I literally hid my phone in a BBQ grill outside the test center hoping that no one steals it whiles i'm taking the test, and the second time fortunately someone offered to keep it in their car together with my backpack, hopefully that we'll both be done in time so this person doesn't have to wait or worse drive off with my stuff. (Also, two girls got kicked out for having their phones on them. I'm assuming if they weren't gonna use it to cheat then maybe they had on them because they had no place to store them).

I absolutely understand why LSAC doesn't allow cellphones at the test center (to prevent cheating), but it seems wrong to not provide a place where people can store their things. It is not everyone who drives there or has a convenient place to store their prohibited items, and in the case of cellphones, we rely so much on them to warrant being fearful of losing it or it getting stolen.

Also, why is LSAC adamant on no mechanical pencils when taking the test? I'm assuming the machine that marks the tests can only read no.2 or HB lead pencil markings, but i literally just went to five stores closest to me (2 dollar stores, Ross, 7eleven, and my gas station shop) to buy a sharpener for tomorrow's test day in case i need it, and literally non of them had a regular/manuel sharpeners so I bought a $4 battery-powered sharpener. I'm not taking it to the center because i'm sure their not gonna allow it (even though there's no rule against automatic sharpeners), but could they either change this rule and allow mechanical pencils, or perhaps provide sharpeners assuming the center wouldn't have a wall sharpener?

Ok my rant is over. Goodluck to you all :)

This may sound ridiculous, but it just so happens that I can be ridiculously indecisive. I know that it's important to consider employment stats, scholarships, national ranking, location, course offerings, specializations, etc. in making the decision, but I find it somewhat frustrating that there is no "logic games approach" for deciding on a school.

If you're reading this and you've made your decision or are in the process of making it, could you share how you went about it?

Did you go with a gut feeling? Do a chart? Do a chart with a weird point system that ultimately made the decision for you?

Did you talk to academic advisors, professors, friends, and/or family to get input on anything?

If you've decided, were you absolutely sure or more 80% sure or maybe even less?

These are the kinds of questions I've been dying to ask other people. What's your story?

is there anyway that i can buy the drill pack and question bank for my LSAT starter course ?

Was access to certain features recently changed in Starter?

I no longer have the check marks next to items I have completed, nor do I have the option to have the side by side view of notes and video.

This is kind of a bummer.

I would LOVE to hear from someone that just kills Reading Comp every time you get to a passage. What is it that you do? Have you always done well at RC or did you have to really work at it? what changes did you make?

Question: Does LSAC send an email confirming your decision to withdraw? I never received an email and I don't see it listed on my LSAC profile. I want to make sure it was recorded!

Hey friends,

I am a junior from a top 15 school, with approximately 3.90 gpa double majoring in Cognitive Science and Sociology, with a minor in Philosophy. I want to go to law school directly after graduation. In the past summer, I interned in a renowned firm and did some paralegal work. This semester, I participated in a political campaign. I originally planned to take LSAT this Saturday but I know I am not fully prepared, so I withdrew. Now, I can get around 165 and kinda stagnate here. My ultimate goal is 175 and get into T6. I know LSAT is so important. Should I spend this coming summer studying for LSAT? or should I look for a summer internship? I'm so afraid if law schools ask me "what did you do during your past summer?" during the interview. Looking for suggestions!!

Hey all! Just thought it would be nice to create a discussion to share any inspiring thoughts/words/advice that helped you before your LSAT or that is currently helping you now-- since today is the day before the February sitting!

I'll start... I've been really trying to focus on all the progress that I've made. It's pretty amazing to me to see what I was doing when I started studying and what I'm capable of now. We should all DEFINITELY be proud of how much we've progressed, how much we've worked, and how far we've come. Going into the test tomorrow is just a chance to show off all of the amazing work we've done!

Hey all,

I just did LG Game #2 from PT 09, and in the game there are 2 biconditional rules and 2 conditional rules.

J (-) /K

N (-) /P

N -> L

Q -> K

JY does not combine the biconditional rules with the conditional rules, and instead just splits the GB based on the biconditionals.

Should we never combine biconditional rules with other rules?

Would appreciate any feedback/advice. Thanks so much! :)

Hi all, if I am hoping to convince school A to give me aid by letting them know how much I got from school B, should I wait until school A’s financial aid app forms are available and fill them out, see what happens, then tell them about school B’s offer? Or should I tell School A now since their $ is limited?

I just saw on Twitter that my test center will be closed due to inclement weather.

Usually what will happen next? Will LSAC give us another test date like in the next week or so?

Thanks guys.

Can your LSAT ticket picture be in black and white. Even though it’s still clear

I am trying to do the main point and main conclusion questions problem set number 1. However, when I click on any of the problems set (1-3) nothing happens. Also, I am unable to adjust the speed on the videos. Is this problem happening to anyone else? Or could it just be my computer glitching?

I do not consider myself to be a genius, but I don’t think I’m dumb either. I started prepping for the LSAT back in September. Since then, I had a house fire (Dec 22, 2017) and lost everything. Along with that, I lost previous study time. I’ve been doing the best I can with the hand delt, but I have been scoring around 150-153 on the prep tests. I am walking in to test day expecting a 150. I feel like everyone’s posts I read all say they are getting 160-170 or above. Is anyone else scoring in the 150’s ? Should I feel ashamed for scoring there? Are you all freaky intelligent? I’ve always done well on tests and in school, but this test has me feeling like a big fat dummy! PS I am not trying to get accepted into a top school. I will likely go to a private school. P

Good Morning - The school I am hoping to attend has encouraged me to move forward with the LSAT tomorrow. I believe a 150-153 in addition to a high GPA would make me a strong candidate. However, I would like to know if there is a way to see the type of scholarships they offer based on a combination of GPA, LSAT score. While I am confident I can score a 150+ and I have a 3.8+ GPA I would really like to maximize the scholarship funds available. If this means me retesting in June to get a higher score on my LSAT then I would rather do that. However, if the difference in a 153 and a 160 is only minimal from a scholarship perspective then I believe it would make sense to not delay my application. Would really appreciate your thoughts on this.

I'm taking the LSAT on Saturday. My practice tests have been about 158 so I will be content to be within a point or 2 of that given how anxiety provoking this whole test has been. My UGPA is a 3.94, and I will have completed my masters in forensic psych by May. I know that my score falls well below the 25th percentile for Georgetown and a lot of top schools, but is it still worth applying? Or is it a waste of money? Thanks!

It's difficult juggling work and study. What's bothering me now is that I'm always comparing people's highlight reel to my "behind the scenes". Never fails to make me jealous but I've slowly learnt how to ignore them. I manage it by staying off social media and ruthless prioritization. How about you guys? What's bothering you right now? Vent it here!

I have a full-time job and work an hour away from home. By the time I come home, make dinner and get ready to study its about 8pm. I try to stay as consistent as I can with my study habits but lately its been so rough on me. I find myself dozing off after two hours of studying and some days im not able to get thru the first section.

I am beginning to get frustrated and not sure what else to do. I study on weekends on and off throughout the entire weekend for hours at a time, take breaks as needed in between and I am able to knock out questions but I feel during the week my schedule is keeping me from focusing.

Any suggestions?