Hey! So I have a few questions about things I should/should not include in my LOCI's...they are rather specific to my situation and I just want to see what people think about including them.

1.) Resident - As a resident of California attending these schools at a lower cost is something I consider heavily. My Post 9/11 G.I. Bill will also cover 2 full years of tuition WITHOUT the help of the school if I attend law school in California at a public school. Should I include this as a reason I'd commit to the school in my LOCI?

2.) No acceptances - As suggested by a couple users here, should I carefully mention that I've received no acceptances this year but am on many waitlists. Saying something how accepting me off the waitlist is likely to result in me being fully committed to their school. Obviously I would do this VARY carefully and not make it seem like a bribe....haha

Those are my two big ones; any thoughts on if I should include that stuff or not?

https://abovethelaw.com/2018/04/experts-say-the-future-of-law-school-is-looking-bleak/

If we thought that this application cycle was brutal, looks like we might be in for an increasingly competitive legal market in future years. According to this article, the employment data we are seeing may not be representative of how law schools will place their graduates in the near future, because these graduating class size of 2017 were smaller than past years.

So far I got into UCI with 60k and UIUC (illinois urbana champaign) with 108k.

In light of UCI posting a biglaw/fed percentage of 41 percent in 2017, I'm not sure if Its worth getting into more debt in UCI. UCI beat ucla and is edging close to usc. 2017 was the first graduating class after UCI its accreditation from ABA. I am not sure how sustainable thrse numbers are since their class size was exceptionally small that year at 96 and admissions officers in UCI told me they planned to increase them to 170 for the incoming class of 2021. The out of state tuition in Illinois is the same as the in state as UCI. My parents will help me with housing and I have some money saved up.

In terms of career goals, I wouldnt mind a non negligble chance at biglaw. At the same time, I'm open to public interest. What would you guys choose? For context, I'm in the process of negotiating with UCI and should hear back later in april. I am a california resident but wouldnt mind practicing out of state

Hey guys,

My stats are 174 LSAT, 3.15 GPA from top 15 university, non-URM, and decent softs. I'm preparing my applications to send sometime next week. Blanketing the top 14 (minus HYS) and adding UCLA, Vandy, USC, WUSTL, and Emory. I'm considering applying ED2 Penn -- anyone know how my chances would look?

As I've read literally everywhere, my GPA means this cycle is going to be an unpredictable one. I was wondering if anyone had any splitter success stories, or words of advice to help keep my motivation up. For those studying for the LSAT or applying right now, good luck! :smile:

Peace,

AP

I visited both schools and liked them both. They have very different campus vibes. I think I may be a slightly better fit for Northwestern because I'm an "older" non-traditional student and I grew up in a city all my life-- being in the heart of Chicago seems attractive to me. I would like to return to NYC after graduating but I'm open to the west coast as well. As for academics, I'm not sure how the two compare. Anyone have thoughts on comparing these two schools assuming that cost of attendance would be equal?

Hey gang,

I hope everyone is doing well! I have what I hope is a quick question...what's the deal with those law preview courses? I've been getting tons of brochures and emails, but I'm skeptical that they're worth the time/money. I don't want to show up being the only kid who hasn't done her proverbial homework, but I also don't want to get scammed.

What do people think? Are there certain books I should read before school starts?

I was so focused on getting in that I spent very little time sitting with the reality of attending, if that makes sense.

Any and all advice appreciated!

So I’m a senior getting ready to apply to graduate school; now, ever since I embarked on this journey I’ve heard stories about how law school really isn’t worth it unless you go to a T14 law school or even T25 law school? Obviously it looks like the T14 are the best of the best but are T25 law schools still a good investment? Would you consider the T14-T25 still a fairly good league of law schools?

And I'd have to say I am still as unsure and lost as before I had my decisions from the schools...

My final results are:

Acceptances:

Waitlist:

Rejections: (mostly expected here)

Two still pending:

So what the heck am I suppose to do. I have to go this cycle, I really don't have an option. I need to push these waitlists until I can't any longer. I just don't know what the best strategy is.

Obviously I have schools I'd rather attend on the waitlist, but since I'm on the waitlist I don't get to choose. I have to beg them all and hope someone likes me enough right?

Sigh, I have to say....this is not fun!

Hey guys, I have a law school visit and a meeting with the Director of Admissions in a couple of weeks. Has anyone had a meeting like this before and if so, what did it consist of? Also, what's the proper attire for one? Thanks!!

Hi!

Do you know if people have successfully taken the June LSAT to get off waitlists? I'm waitlisted at a couple of my top-choice schools and I wonder if even a 1-2 point increase could be helpful in getting admitted. I would get my score in early July. I don't believe that LOCI would be very helpful in distinguishing people (everyone sends them all talking about how much they love school xyz...)so I'm stuck on how to increase my chances of getting off the waitlist.

But then again, I wonder if retaking is worth the shot because its a long ordeal and I'm not really confident on scoring higher.

Advice/inputs would be appreciated if you know people who got off the waitlist this way

Hi everyone,

Just received an email that I was wait-listed by a school which I am willing to attend.

The school's full/first deposit deadline is April 16. Is there anything I should do before now and then to increase my chance of being admitted?

By the way, I already submitted a "why school X" essay with my application, so my LOCI will need to be something else.

Thanks in advance!

https://www.gwhatchet.com/2018/04/09/law-school-reverses-decision-to-accept-gre-scores-in-midst-of-admission-cycle/

Seeking input and advice. Yes, I know I am starting early. My ultimate goal is to get into a T14 JD/Master of Public Policy dual degree program, work in government influencing legislation, strong interest in anti-corruption/ethics, and run for public office later.

I have been accepted into Clemson's honors college, Cornell and Furman. Clemson and Furman are very close in total cost for me (I won a large scholarship at Furman.) For those who do not know Furman, it is a small LAC with about 2,800 undergraduates. My parents say I would be a "big fish" at Furman, meaning it would be less competitive than the other two, probably easier to secure leadership positions, very strong access to professors, less stress, and they have a mock trial team (which I have enjoyed being a part of throughout HS.) I am concerned that Furman is not as well known when it comes time to apply to law schools. With the honors college at Clemson, it comes with some perks, more competitive for leadership roles, they have a good career services, and strong alumni. Much bigger enrollment, very hard to get into their honors college, they work with students who want to go for fellowships. Clemson doesn't have a mock trial team but they have a debate team and a "pre-law society." Cornell is obviously the Ivy, research opportunities, and alumni that comes with it. Worried about being able to achieve the super high GPA that is needed to get into a top law school if I go somewhere like Cornell where it is super competitive.

So I know for sure that I would like to study philosophy as one of my majors, particularly focusing on moral and political philosophy. (At Clemson they have it with a "Law, Liberty, and Justice emphasis." I was also thinking about majoring in Economics to understand how the economy works and to assist in the future for influencing economic policy. However, I read comments from an Economics major at Cornell said not to waste your time with it because the economics degree there is all theoretical and not enough math. Then I see someone saying that philosophy is more logic and reasoning and it is good to have more writing skills by taking political science or history. I am super strong in history and have loved it since third grade, and I am also very interested in political science. At Furman, an upperclassman told me to definitely get a second major in political science because there is some overlap with the philosophy degree where you don't need a lot of extra courses.

Anyways, would love your input. My parents are the analytical type (CPA and Computer Programming) and don't know anything about law school other than what we've been trying to research on-line. Thanks so much!

Don’t think I’ve seen this info anywhere... but thinking about sending an additional LOR to a school I’m waitlisted at. Can you do this through CAS? Do you just assign another letter? Or since they already received your report do you have to send directly to the school? Anyone know?

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Hi all,

Wondering what your thoughts are on sending a preemptive LOCI. I was rejected from my first choice school (which I applied to ED 2).

Does it make sense to send my second choice school a LOCI or LOCI-like statement stating that I would accept immediately if I were accepted there, prior to hearing back any decision from them re: acceptance/ waitlist/ rejection?

I'm waitlisted at my top choice. Not accepted anywhere. I'm already studying for a June retake, about to submit my LOCI tonight, and will have an additional LOR sent next week. What else should I be doing? Should I visit again? Thanks in advance!

Has anyone taken (or know anyone that's taken) Legal Eagle Prep's masterclass? https://www.legaleagleprep.com/masterclass

It kind of sounds like Larry Law Law's KTCOOLS program.

I’ve heard back from a few schools, but for many I haven’t even gotten info for the online status checker (and these schools do indeed have them). Anyone else in this boat? Any ideas/thoughts as to what is going on?

Thanks for any input!

Should I bother asking for more $ even though I don't have much leverage as far as other schools with better offers? I haven't paid the fist seat deposit yet, so maybe that would be considered? Looking at the law school numbers site, two people have been accepted after my group with lower LSAT and GPA and were offered the same amount...

Thoughts?

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Hello, I had dropped out my first college, after getting 7 semesters, as I was not into my major, and then I entered another college with a different major and graduated. Should I register my first college record at CAS?

I'm confused, beacuse I attented that school more than 2 years. So I think I have to do, but I am afraid whether it has a bad effect on me. Should I just skip this?

I'm a music student and law school hopeful (obviously). I decided to check out admissions records for music majors on Law School Numbers today, and have to say it was pretty discouraging. Maybe the data isn't really representative because there really weren't a whole lot of search results, but it seems like those I found (particularly for higher scorers) really underperformed their numbers.

Of course I don't know anything about these people besides their numbers but it definitely has me a bit worried that even with a great LSAT score I won't be that competitive for T14 schools. Anyone else out there coming from music or other fine arts fields and have thoughts or experience to share?

In a quest for desperation, I wandered into Reddit. Apparently Fordham may be sending out decisions at around 4pm today (the time is according to the grapevine and the date is according to Fordham's twitter)