So I've been fool proofing post CC. I started out on a schedule of 1 PT a day, drilling each game on day 1, 2, and 7. I'm figuring out that games are stacking very quickly. For example here is what a 7th days spread looks like with the method above. Day 1: PT1 Day 2: PT 1&2 Day 3: PT 3&2 Day 4: PT 4&3 Day 5: PT 5&4&1 Day 6: PT 6&5&1 Day 7: PT 7&6&3&1

What begins as a reasonable load quickly adds up to 4 PTs in one day, which is overkill in my opinion. Then on day 5 or 7 if I have missed even one question from the day 1 PT I will attempt it until a perfect score. I've now abandoned the original schedule. Instead, I have been doing 1 PT per day and simply attempting at least 4 other questions that had the lowest time or scores in prior games.

Does anyone have a suggestion for a cleaner, more methodical approach to fool proofing? I occasionally catch myself being biased and selectively choosing to repeat games that are difficult, but I actually enjoy over the games that I hate.

First off, what type of question is this? I can't tell from the question stem. It seems like it's a cross between a SA and a MSS, but I'm not really sure.

I'm having a little trouble why seeing A is correct. Why can't there be other types of floor surfaces? I thought this was a little too strong.

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So I'm signed up for the June 2015 test and this is my second time taking the test. I took the Oct 2013 and scored in the low 150s which was heartbreaking considering my diagnostic was a 157. I've been studying for about 9 months, took the 7sage course and have done 20 PTs under test conditions. My last five scores are as follows: PT 65--- 163, PT 66-- 169, PT 71-- 165, PT 72-- 165, PT 73-- 168. My goal score is a 167-169 so I think I'm scoring where I want to be. The problem is I have anxiety and my confidence really took a hit the first time I took the test. Anyone have some advice on how to get through these next two weeks both mentally and study-wise? I feel like I'm ready and will do better on this test but at the same time I have this creeping fear that somehow I'll freak out and mess it up again. Any advice is greatly appreciated.

I was excited that I'd scored a 170 on PTs a few weeks ago, but instead of going higher, my score has only dropped since. I am aiming for a 171-172. I'll take the test on the 10th.

LG is typically my strongest section, RC next strongest, and LR my weakest. RC can vary widely, from -1 to -4 or -5. LR used to be my strong suit (once I scored -2 out of both sections) but I have fallen backwards.

Does anyone have advice on how to get my score back again? Part of me thinks my issue is anxiety, but studying is definitely easier for me than trying to decrease my stress.

Thanks!

Not sure if this has been addressed already, I am aware LSAC does not release the February exam... but will we receive per section breakdowns at all, or just our score?

Thanks!

Anybody know why you can't yet sign up for the July LSAT? Thanks so much!

I took the test this Saturday and I am very conflicted on what to do. I took the test in Connecticut. It was 30 something degrees outside that morning. The room was initially warm when I got there so I sat in the corner by the window. We lost heat in the room when the test started and I basically took the first half of the exam shivering and freezing the entire time ( I am anemic). My hands were shaking the entire time because I was so cold. It was fixed during our break and we had heat the second half of the exam. The only section I was not able to complete was one of the sections I took during the first half. I honestly don't know if it was difficult or if was the conditions or maybe both coupled with nerves. Leading up to the exam, I haven't had any problems completing the sections. In fact I was really excited because I had spent a year prepping and I was scoring very well on my PTs.

To make things worst my proctor--(very sweet elderly lady) would continue to give us instructions AFTER starting our time. She did this for EVERY section. So as I am reading question number 1 with the clock running, she would be talking. I don't think it was intentional. She was very kind...but those seconds do add up. Everything is telling me I should cancel and reach out to LSAC. Any advice?

I am very bummed. I really wanted to be done with the LSAT after this weekend.

So I was doing a MSS Question, specifically:

LSAT Preptest 20, Section 1, Question 1

After reading the stimulus, I went to the answer choices. Something clicked for me - I went back to the stimulus, read it, and then said “therefore,” then read each answer choice individually until I found one that I felt made a reasonable conclusion, given the set of premises in the stimulus. I settled on Answer Choice B through this method.

Am I onto something?

For the record, I haven’t gotten to the MSS Question type lessons on 7Sage, so if I have merely “discovered” something that JY goes over, please burst my bubble and tell me so.

I've been really depressed not getting difficult 4-5 questions on LR (many times 3 too). This hurts my overall score so much that I've been consistently getting low 150. I thought I knew how to distinguish question types, how to diagram, and how to approach different types of questions. Now I'm considering hiring a tutor to help me. I wanted to hear what other people have done to overcome...

I know practice is so important but no matter how much I review. I just keep making mistakes and getting everything wrong.

Personally, on Sunday I'm going to go chop off my hair! I haven't cut my hair in like 5 years, so I'm gonna go to a salon, get a nice shampoo, and then chop off all the stress from the past 6 months of studying. It sounds drastic, but it was either this or a tattoo!

What about y'all?

Hi why is C wrong? Wouldnt commercial development lead to more humans which lead to more mammals which eat the plants? I had a hard time distinguishing between C and D.

Hey all,

I just did #16 from PT 53, Section 1 --

the stimulus has clear conditional logic indicator words ... like "must," "any", etc. but after I watched the video explanation, i realized that answering the question does NOT use conditional logic/diagramming.

when i first tried to do the problem , I tried using conditional logic -- but got no where.

In the JY's video explanation, he doesn't use conditional logic -- EVEN though there are conditional indicator words.

How do you know whether to diagram (or NOT) -- especially when there ARE conditional logic indicator words?

Many thanks!

J.Y., can you help us on this one? PT83.3.12 "In a scene in an ancient Greek play..."

Honestly, I was completely stumped on test day on this one and the answer choices still mostly seem irrelevant to me. I don't understand how to process it at all. Any insight?

According to this video, it seems like the Secret Service tests heavily on conditional logic. Try to see how many questions you can get right!

I am confused as to why answer c is a better answer choice than a. They seem very similar, but is the answer c because there are a range of numbers opposed to using the same number (2) in answer choice a, or is there something bigger that I am missing?

I don't understand how E can be the correct answer. There actually appears to be no correct answer. The LSAT relies heavily on Formal Logic and applying a healthy dose of Logic to this answer dictates that every feature in slots 1-4 must contain either an "I" or an "M". Otherwise, you are a floater and can be anything. It should translate visually into this:

~5 ---> I or M

Alternatively, 1-4 ---> I or M.

In other words, slot 5 can also be I or M. The newspaper can have five M and one I without breaking any rules.

It appears a little bit like a double standard in this case as I can't see any way E conflicts with the rules using Formal Logic.

Hi! I'm practicing Must Be True/Most Supported questions and am having trouble with understanding why B is the correct answer as opposed to D. Answer D seems more like a paraphrase which is why I thought it's correct. Would love an explanation. Thanks!

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-32-section-1-question-11/

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Is C right because its requires you to assume that since the number of large/med tornadoes reported has stayed the same, then the number of small tornadoes reported has increased? I'm not sure how one could see this answer strengthening the argument without making this assumption.

I am doing really well at the CC this year (as opposed to last year when I skimmed through it), getting 100% on most of the problem sets, and if I ever get a question or two wrong I'm getting them right upon BR. I know i've only gone thru the easier question types but I still feel good about my progress. I have been going through all of the problem sets (not saving any for later). I'm 20% done with the CC. I'm at the strengthening problem sets.

I'm wondering if I should start drilling MP/MSS/Weaken/Strengthen LR questions, maybe mixing together 25 of them of varying difficulty levels and taking them in 35 min like a full section in the test? So I can start working on my pacing. I don't see the point of drilling full LR sections from PTs as I have only learned how to do a few question types.

Or should I just drill sections of the exam when I am done with CC?

Since the question types do all relate to each other, and since I am reviewing my notes every day, I do not think I am necessarily doing myself a disservice by not repeating previously learned question types every day as I go through the CC.

I took a practice LSAT today and scored a 155. I was 11/23 on logic games which drug me down. My goal score is 160-162. I have just recently started to reengage in logic game improvement. What is a realistic raw score goal to get on Logic games before the June test?

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May your pencils be sharp, your negations quick, your passages interesting, and your games straight forward!

Hey all! Just thought it would be nice to create a discussion to share any inspiring thoughts/words/advice that helped you before your LSAT or that is currently helping you now-- since today is the day before the February sitting!

I'll start... I've been really trying to focus on all the progress that I've made. It's pretty amazing to me to see what I was doing when I started studying and what I'm capable of now. We should all DEFINITELY be proud of how much we've progressed, how much we've worked, and how far we've come. Going into the test tomorrow is just a chance to show off all of the amazing work we've done!

Can someone please explain this flaw? Why would it matter if the election outcome was different if the majority party had not supported the bill?

Hey all,

I just did LG Game #2 from PT 09, and in the game there are 2 biconditional rules and 2 conditional rules.

J (-) /K

N (-) /P

N -> L

Q -> K

JY does not combine the biconditional rules with the conditional rules, and instead just splits the GB based on the biconditionals.

Should we never combine biconditional rules with other rules?

Would appreciate any feedback/advice. Thanks so much! :)

My apologies if this has been discussed better here before and I'm just missing it! Everything I've been able to find specifically on the 7Sage Discussion boards has been pretty wishy-washy in general about it, so I figured I'd post.

I know that success using particular “methods” (e.g., specific notation systems, margin-writing, etc.) in RC is typically pretty idiosyncratic and that what works for one person might be entirely unhelpful for another, but I want to sing the praises of a tool that I haven’t really seen suggested too much elsewhere (and in fact, that I’ve seen a few actively discourage):

The highlighter! Hear me out.

I didn’t even realize it was acceptable to use a highlighter during the actual test until recently because it doesn't seem to get talked about much, and I definitely did not expect it to help me, but it totally has. If you're like me and feel like the passages are a blur and the answers sometimes feel like total shots-in-the dark because you're so rushed and stressed, this honestly might help you get a little bit more certainty and confidence.

I’ve been putting my pencil down during my initial read and focusing just on understanding the passage and its structure, and then going through with the highlighter during a much briefer second pass and marking up everything that seems like it’ll be helpful to have for the questions (names, dates, details, shifts—anything that seems like answer-fodder, really). For me, this serves two purposes: 1) it quickly reacquaints me with the passage's overall structure in light of having just finished it (which can be quite helpful for a tricky main point question), and 2) it (obviously) makes the information easier to locate quickly.

It might just be me, but I feel like—since I've been staring solely at #2 pencil chickenscratch and black ink for months and months during prep and it can all start to feel like extraneous clutter at a certain point—the yellow of the highlighter stands out and really helps me organize the info visually. I’ve gone from missing 5-6 per RC section (on the newer tests) and sometimes not finishing on time to only about 2-3 misses on average (and in time, even with spending about 4 minutes upfront on the passage). For someone trying to go from consistent 169ish to consistent 172ish, these 2-3 extra points are huge for me!

Now I WILL GRANT YOU the possibility that this is all placebo and my actual improvement might simply stem from increased familiarity with RC (and no doubt that's a big part of it too), but the highlighting method really has, at least at this stage of prep for me, helped me feel more confident about my understanding of the passage. It feels like having a great setup for a logic game and being able to breeze right through the questions.

Anyway, if you're banging your head against the wall with RC and wrote off using a highlighter because you thought you couldn't spare the time, I'd say give it a shot! If it doesn't work for you, that's okay—but maybe it will!