I currrently average -7.4 over 5 pts in logic games, my best was -4 and my worst was in my september lsat (lol). Anyway, im looking to compensate and better this section and ordered the logic games powerbible to supplement the core curriculum. What kind of improvement is realistic from here till december lsat?

Hello!

Im having trouble with logical opposites.

Is "not all= some are not"

Is the logical opposite of

"some are not= all"

Thank u so much! :)

I am consistently getting all #% LR q wrong. Doe anyone have any tips on how to approach these questions? How to improve? What I should be looking for?

Thanks!!

I'm even considering looking at percentage tutorials on khanacademy lol

Im trying to isolate why i found this section so hard. Anyone else have a hard time w it?

Hey guys,

I have been prepping on and off for almost 6 months now with hard prep since past three months. I now score around 165+ on diagnostics. Should I take LSAT in Dec with that kind of practice marks or should I wait to improve?

Hello all!

I have a couple of questions. Right now I am getting a lot of LR questions wrong. My average LR right now is -8. I am taking the December LSAT. My first question is that is possible to improve to -2 per section with the time left? I have going over the question types I have seriously been missing on with the LR 1-20 book. How I've been using this book is doing full sections of one type of question, scoring it and going over them. Are there other strategies that you all would recommend? My top 3 missed are NA, PSA, and Flaw. I really hope I can make this happen before December second!

I took the September LSAT and was not satisfied with my score of 152 (PTing at 160-165). Ideally, I would prefer not to take a gap year, but I want to be competitive for a top 25 law school in the least. An additional detail is that I am a student with disabilities and did not request accommodations for either September or December, but will for February. I have not had much time to prep for the December exam but plan to take several practice exams and foolproof the LG section. My main worry is not performing well on December and being too late in February to be considered for better universities. I believe I am capable of a 168-171 if I really drive myself into it.

I attached a poll, but I would like further input if you have the time.

How did y'all get better with timing with LG? I usually get a perfect score when I do games untimed, but I crack under pressure and miss a few just because I don't have enough time to get to them.

I am currently fullproofing games to help with this, but I was wondering if any of you had any strategies or tips to get better at timing.

I am taking the December test.

Since the September LSAT I have scaled WAY back on studying for the test. I have gone from doing multiple sections a day, 5 days a week, with a five section PT on day 6., To doing only three or four sections a week with a PT every 2 weeks. Since I've scaled back my studying, I have yet to score below a 170 on a PT. While this is amazing for me, and I've noticed a ton of improvement because of skipping strategies and a new outlook on RC, I am still really worried that it will not translate to reality on Dec 2.

What can I do to ensure that I preform to the best of my capabilities on test day?

What I've already done:

I have started running again.

I have cut a substantial amount of sugar from my diet (no more soda).

I make time for myself to relax (beat Mario Odyssey and watched Stranger Things).

Worked close with 7Sagers to help vent about the test, continued meetings with an awesome Sager every week!

Feel calmer during tests and implemented a new skipping strategy based on advice from @"Cant Get Right"

Communicated directly with the only law school I now want to attend and have begun working on apps.

I still have this fear in the back of my mind that something will go awry come December and that I'll panic during the test and under preform again. Does anyone have other suggestions on what I can do to prevent catastrophic failure come test day?

Hello, all!

I have a question about the negation of a particular comparative statement that I encountered in the third quiz on negation in the curriculum. Here is that statement: "Small animals can move more rapidly than large animals can." That statement is, of course, negated as others are: "It's not the case that small animals can move more rapidly than large animals can." But the implications of this negated statement confuse me. The implications of this statement are explained to be that either (1) small and large animals move with equal rapidity or (2) large animals move more rapidly than small animals. But why must the entire group of small animals either move in one of these two ways? Don't these implications only account for the negation of the quality on which the two groups are being compared, yet neglect the quantity? Isn't the original statement quantified?

I have a feeling that I'm not being clear, so let me explain further.

Because the author is talking about these animals as sets - small animals and large animals - can we infer that he or she is talking about all small animals and all large animals? Can we thus read this statement as, "All small animals can move more rapidly than large animals can"? If we can, would not the negation of this statement be, "Some small animals cannot move more rapidly than large animals"? From this statement, we would know that there is at least one small animal (yet possibly all) that cannot move more rapidly than large animals. And because we would know that at least one small animal animal (yet possibly all) cannot move more rapidly than large animals, we would also know that there is at least one small animal (yet possibly all) that moves either equally rapidly or less rapidly than larger animals can. Isn't this all that we need to negate the original statement - merely one small animal that moves equally rapidly or less rapidly as large animals? This would deny the truth of "small animals move more rapidly than large animals," wouldn't it? Wouldn't this account for both the quality on which these groups are being compared and the quantity?

Of course, my entire paragraph above relies on an assumption about which I'm unsure that I can make: I took for granted the we can read the original statement as, "All small animals can move more rapidly than large animals." Perhaps we cannot read that statement as such. If so, why? And if that's the case, are we simply to negate the statement in terms of the quality on which the two groups are being compared, as the answer reflects above? (I.e., the negation of this statement would simply mean that small animals, as a group, can either move equally rapidly or less rapidly than large animals, as a group.)

I hope this is clear. If not, I apologize. I'm confused myself.

Any help on how I am to go about negating this statement would be much appreciated. Thank you all for your time!

(I'll be leaving for work soon, so I'll respond to any posts either later this evening or tomorrow morning!)

Hey 7sagers--

I know some of you are in this boat too: you studied really hard for September, you underperformed, and now your head game is messed up for December. In my case, I scored between 170 and 176 in the last 5 or 6 PT's leading up to the September exam, I didn't burn myself out, and I felt very confident going into the test. But I ended up scoring a 167. My downfall was reading comprehension (-6, yikes), which I think might have mostly been a mental fatigue problem (it was my 4th section and I also had experimental reading, so I think part of me was hoping that the real section was experimental). So now my question is, any tips for getting the mojo back? I'm drilling and studying and trying to get back as being as ready as I was for September, but part of me thinks that the same thing could happen again, and I'm not sure how to fix it. Also, I'm really wary of doing poorly because of lowered confidence-- that would suck! Sooooo yeah any advice?

Hey guys,

So I am beginning timing now but I am unsure of how to approach this for the December test. I am BRing an average of 165-168. My timed score averages from 150 all the way to 159. I am aiming for above 162 for sure.

What do you guys recommend?

Should I dedicate one day to two days per section type and see what works (but I feel like my LR section suffers when I don't consistently do questions) ?

LR is my weakest section in terms of timing and LG is my strongest but I can definitely improve on all three sections. Considering my target score, what will be the most effective? What do you suggest?

How should I approach these few weeks before the December test? I need more like a study plan/schedule for these couple of weeks I guess... Kind of lost and all over the place right now.

Like today, I basically tried timing strategies for all three sections and found nothing helped other than the fact that I did better on LG. It was stress juggling all three sections on one day.

Yesterday I finally finished the curriculum part of the course and decided to take my first PTA to see how much I've learned. To be frank, the whole experience was a disaster. I ran out of time on 3 out of 4 sections, on LG I didn't have enough time to do one of the games at all. While doing LR my mind would not function by the newely learned rules of finding premises and conclusions, and basically the whole test felt like brute force all the way through.

Obviously, I didn't do great, but what defeated me completely was the fact that I scored even lower on this PTA than on my very first dry run LSAT test that I took back in September prior to taking this course. Just the thought of this paralyzed me.

Now with under 4 weeks left before the December exam (that I must take because I already applied and paid money to get into the univesity of my choice), I think I really need some advice or guidence. I am not going to give up and now I think maybe I shouldn't have jumped into full PTA right away. Would you recommend doing timed sections or maybe a certain amount of questions first? I feel like I'm missing something, and any advice will be appreciated!

Thank you all for reading through.

Hey everyone, with a month left to go before the December LSAT, I just wanted to provide an update to show that the FP technique really is beneficial.

Before the September LSAT, I had only used the 7S games explanation videos and the Powerscore bibles to study. On a typical LG section, I would score around 18/23 was almost always pressed for time. Last night after completing all of my law school applications, I finished the games section of PT 61 in 26 minutes with only one mistake due to missing a word in one question.

If you're worried about LG like me, it's not too late to improve!

Can someone explain section 1 Q 15 to me on the 7Sage practice test? I'm really struggling. Here's my logic:

W1: G (by rule)

W2: T (by rule)

W3: can't be G because G must come directly before J and J can't be W4

W4: Cant be J (by rule)

W5: Must be G (by rule)

W6: Must be J (has to be one stop min)

W7: T (by rule)

This only leaves Martinique x2 for weeks 3 and 4. But the rules state G must take place between those 2 trips....

Help....please! lol

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-june-2007-section-1-game-3/

What does answer choice A mean to you? Coming out of Feb 1996 PT 14 Section 4 Question 10.

Question stem: The therapist's reply to the interviewer is most vulnerable to which one of the following criticisms?"

A) it precludes the possibility of disconfirming evidence

I'm having real difficulty parsing out the meaning. I thought the question showed a circular reasoning flaw, so I hope this describes circular reasoning...

Hey, guys! LG is my best section but I rely a lot on brute force. Do you guys think it's more beneficial to time myself doing an entire LG section, or doing one game at a time? I think doing one game at a time encourages brute forcing for me because I know I have 8 mins for each game. Each game doesn't necessarily take 8 mins and some may take 11 mins. I always try to split boards and make inferences during BR but I panic and move on after my initial board when doing a PT and end up drawing many boards along the way and brute forcing. What do you guys think? I normally finish with ~ 1 min left but I'm still not - 0.

It has been a while since I posted last time. I'm preparing for December LSAT. School work takes me lots of time.I'm currently taking Master of Jurisprudence at UW. I took some classes with JD,LLM students. Law school seems less intriguing to me.

Yet, I want to give a shot for LSAT.My weak part is RC. I'm currently got -8, 9 for RC. I wonder if hiring a RC tutor will be helpful and if yes, how I work with the tutor.

Hello all,

I was reviewing PT 77 S2 Q18 (link below) and was having a bit of trouble clarifying my thinking on it.

If an argument "fails to exclude" X, that means it does not explicitly rule out X, correct? This is different than "presumes" or "takes for granted" X where X would be an assumption the argument makes, right?

Am I thinking about this correctly?

Thanks for any help!

Link:

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-77-section-2-question-18/

I have been studying since May and have improved greatly. My LG sections have gone from -15 to -5, but I want to go -0 or -2. On the September test, I went -11 for each LR and RC section, which is high for me. I usually score between 155-160 on practice tests, but I scored 151 on the September test. I have done blind review and can’t figure out what I’m doing wrong. I feel like I have a good grasp on conditional logic, but I keep missing so many questions. How can I get my score to the mid to high 160s in one month?

I consistently finish LR with around 10 minutes to spare. I then go back and solve the questions that I have marked for review, and I still have a few extra minutes left. Clearly, I'm doing something wrong because I score around -5 in LR. Can anyone suggest what I should be doing differently?

I've been focusing on improving my LR but I can't seem to improve under timed conditions but when I BR I'm doing great. I'm getting pretty discouraged. Any tips would be helpful.

I just finished PT 73 and got 6 wrong in the 26-question LR section. I had about 5 min left after I finished the first round and circled 4 questions (answered but wanted to double check). I checked them all with the time left. However, none of the circled questions were wrong. I re-read the wrong questions without checking the videos and easily find where goes wrong: I mis-read a lot and moved on without checking all answers.

How do you avoid mis-reading, particularly in LR?

https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/necessary-assumptions-questions-problem-set-10/?ss_completed_lesson=13888

Answer choice c and d are being problematic. I can reason through c but d is just blocking the doorway and am unable to peer through.

Anyone to the rescue??

Thanks heaps!

I just finished a section of LSAT #36. It was LR and I got 14/26. Any tips?