Hey everyone!

I've finally officially finished the Core curriculum. WOO! There's still MUCH to improve, but I'm feeling pretty good about myself. Ready to gear up for the December LSAT!

Taking my first PT this evening post curriculum and am hoping that my confidence won't mislead me. AKA if my score is lower than I thought, I won't let it bring me down and use this as a great learning experience to improve much more on the ones to come. Positive mindset FTW.

How have you all attacked this beast post-curriculum? I work full-time 8-5 Mon through Frid and have been studying after work almost every night for 2-4 hours and on the weekend for 3-6 hours each day.

I'm thinking maybe two PT's plus BR every week? Like take a PT Monday, BR Tues and Weds, take a break Thursday, Drill Friday, and take another PT Saturday and BR Sunday. Or something along those guidelines.

Would love to hear everyone's suggestions/ideas.

I know the smart decision would be to limit myself to some number of schools I will apply, but the thing is I cannot. I feel like applying to each and single one in the top 25 law schools. I also think about not having any safety schools on the list and applying only to those I will absolutely love to go to, not simply be "okay" with. Does it sound like a mad woman plan?

I remember seeing that some people were offering tutoring, is that still going on?

One of the letters of recommendation id like to use would come from a professor i had while i was in Spain. He asked if he could write the recommendation in Spanish would that be acceptable or would Law Schools not accept it.

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Trying to clear up my mind before the big day :)

1. Conclusion (most accurately expresses the conclusion)

- Usual structure: contextual + HOWEVER, point + supporting premises

- In this case, it helps to paraphrase the sentence following 'however' (turning point)

ex) Some farmers reported that pesticide A was not effective to kill B. However, they are mistaken. The method they used to measure the effectiveness was completely wrong blah blah

- Answer: Some farmers are mistaken with the effectiveness of the pesticide A.

2. MBT

- It has to be TRUE. so, when the answer choices contain a somewhat extreme word such as 'All', 'any', 'never', 'impossible'

it's helpful to check them. They might be too broad or too specific or too dramatic.

- Sometimes you just need to diagram with all the conditionals and find the one matches with that conditionals. In this case, valid arguments courses are just great. Focus on the relationship with 'All','any','Every' and 'most', 'some', 'few'.

- And mind the direction of the conditional arrows! Sometimes answers with reversed arrows seem so tempting.

3. MBF

- It has to be FALSE. so usually I think this type of question has quite complex conditionals and the answer is just lying in somewhere between these complex arrows. Usually I think the wrong answers have either different scope or reversed directions. So in this case, we don't know if this will be true or not.(CBT/CBF).

- But the right answer(MBF) will negate one of the arrows outright.

ex) All the farmers in the western village have both cows and cats.

- Answer: Jake, a farmer in the western village, doesn't have cows. (something like that...)

4. FLAW

- There are too many flaw questions. (duh...)

- The answer choices describe what the argument did (something wrong)/didn't (do something he/she supposed to do to make a valid argument)

- It really helps if we can see the flaw before we move on to the answer choices.

- I think "Correlations->Causation" and "Sufficient->Necessary(or the other way around)" are the two popular types.

- And I also saw many "source attack", "pretending it is the only way and there is no other way", "I only see what I want to see(only mentions about the benefits or negatives", "unrepresentative sample", "It's either A or /A (no middle ground)", "from capability or probability to definiteness (she is capable of doing it so she will do it)" etc.

- When the answer choices describe something in categorical terms with lots of referential talks, it is always helpful to match each phrases with the ones in the argument.

Not sure if this would be helpful but...

I guess so far this is what I've learned and felt. It would be great if you guys can share some more! :)

Can someone please explain in a real simple way I read the explanation but I just don't get it with these types of questions

Thank you in advance

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-76-section-2-question-18/

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Might be a known fact already but just in case anyone is wondering, according to the folks at LSAC as of today, the ticket can be printed in black & white or color, and if you choose to wear glasses instead of contacts on test day (but aren't wearing glasses in either of your photos), it will not affect your admission. :)

Some may laugh and think "practice makes perfect", but I feel this exam has the tendency to catch up to people who have submerged themselves into the exam and get to their heads like a nasty Criss Angel. I started studying at the beginning of May, working through the program during my summer. August 1st hit and I had only written 1 PT (at the beginning of the summer). I postponed till December because I didn't want to rush, and I had a goal of writing at least 10-15 exams before Sept24. Not being ready scared the shit out of me and I vowed to not let that feeling come back in November, so come Sept.1 I sat down with 30+ purchased exams with the goal of completing them all before December. I'm already a student at McGill university, but I've planned it out to write 2-3 (hopefully 3) exams a week. Obviously it sucks not being able to go out and get shitfaced with my friends on a Tuesday, but this exam is my top priority! So i ask: is doing 3 exams a week until Dec a bad idea if I can stay on top of all my other school work? .

I have not done any of the Preptests in the 70's. I am sitting for the September exam. Should I be focusing on these instead of the earliest tests? Are they easier/harder generally?

Hi everyone,

I'm signed up for the LSAT this month. I already have a score from October 2015, but am considering postponing until December 2016. If I do this, I'll miss early decision and won't have complete applications until late December, presumably.

1.) Do you think that timeline puts me at a disadvantage for Northwestern, Cornell, and Georgetown range schools? Or is it better to have a potentially lower score and apply RD before Thanksgiving?

2.) Do people get into ED programs with slightly lower LSAT scores?

I am aiming to take the LSAT in Feb. 2017, If I do this will I still have a chance at being admitted for school starting Fall 2017 or would it be best that I wait until Fall 2018? Also, how many schools would you suggest I apply too? I have been told that the more schools I apply to the higher my chances are at acceptance. Right now, I have about 14 schools that interest me, in which about 5-6 are "very hard" to get into while the rest are all "safety schools". Also, each time you submit a new app. to a law school, do you have to ask/request new LORs', as I have about 4 on file, but I was not sure if they expired? And how exactly does it work with schools you have applied to before but was not accepted? Any advice you all could give me will be greatly appreciated, thanks :-)

I've been taking practice tests for about a month now (only 1 or 2 a week) but every test I've taken my score has gone up. It's making it really challenging to anticipate where I'll be on test day. Any thoughts?

Diagnostic: 156

June 2015 test: 160

Recent practice tests:

Pt 62: 165

Pt 63: 166

Pt 64: 167

Pt 65: 168

Pt 66: 169

My hope is to take PT 67-70 before test day, maybe those will give me a better picture?

I'm working through drafts of my personal statement and realized that it may overlap with one of my LORs.

Basically, I took Public Speaking and Storytelling as electives during my senior year of college. I had expected them to be complete fluff classes but they actually turned out to be really helpful and I connected very well with the Professor. My PS is going to focus on my personal development speaking, attempting stand up comedy, and how storytelling/public speaking has helped me decide that I want to be a trial lawyer.

One of my LORs is coming from the Professor who taught these classes. She has already submitted it to LSAC and I'm not exactly sure what she wrote about. Would it be a problem if my PS and an LOR overlap some? Should I ask this professor about the gist of what she wrote so I can tailor my finished product accordingly?

My PT average has dropped from roughly the high 160s/low 170s on the older PTs to reliably the lower 160s on the PTs in the 70's. I'm planning on taking in Sept. and this shift in my performance is unnerving especially this close to gameday. Has anyone experienced this before/have good advice on ways to change my mindset in approaching the most recent PTs?

Hello guys so I have a question. Whenever doing timed sections/PTs I always used to go into them with the mindset of attempting all of the questions be it LG,RC or LR. However needless to say, I never get to all of them. I usually get about 3 games done,3 passages and I usually end up attempting between 19-22 questions in LR.

What I noticed when I go into a PT with the mindset of finishing each section is that I do end up making careless mistakes that could've been avoided had I been just a bit more prudent. I ended up speaking with someone and they advised me that to get better with time, that I should start off not going into a section with the intention of finishing it but with the intention of getting the ones I attempt correct. And once I start getting high accuracy, to then start being aggressive and start attempting a bit more questions little at a time.

At first I hated the idea because how could someone with a certain goal in mind NOT finish the whole section? But once I thought about it, going into a section with the mindset of only completing 3 passages/games and 19-22 LR questions may not be such a bad idea because that is how much I usually get complete whenever I AM attempting to finish the section ANYWAY. So I came to the conclusion that trying that method should at bare minimum keep my score where it is at if not better because now I would be focusing more on the problems I am attempting and being more prudent in the hopes of eliminating careless mistakes.

I took a PT on Saturday with this method and just like I predicted, I ended up getting the same score I would have gotten were I going in with the mindset of completing each section.(Probably would have done worse actually seeing as how it was a pretty tricky exam and slowing down probably helped me get more points that I would not have otherwise gotten).

So in all, I guess my question is, has anyone on here ever used the what I like to call, "work your way up method"? And if so, how did it work out for you? And even if you haven't used it I would love to hear your opinions on this method. It'd be much appreciated. Thank you!

Hi,

I was just wondering if anyone had helpful tips on attending info sessions/tours. I know it's not an interview but I read somewhere that some admissions teams briefly take note of your behavior sometimes.

Should we be dressing in business professional or business casual? Also, should I bring resumes to law school fairs just in case?

Thank you!!!!!

I recently finished the cc and just wanted to see how some of you may be organizing your time with PTs and doing the fool proof method. For example, I'm going to take another PT but I still have to finish fool proofing the logic games from the last one. I'm afraid that if I end up taking PTs w/o finishing fool proofing, everything will stack up. Any advice? Thanks in advance!

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Greetings all 7sagers!

I have noticed over the last few weeks that the discussions seem to be getting more and more panicked/negative/self-doubting/worried/pensive/etc. I am as neurotically worried as anyone about the LSAT (and it is less that two weeks away!) and I am in need of some inspiration! I think it makes sense to not complain about what others are not doing but to instead be the change you want to see in the world. Soooooo.....

Is anyone else excited about the opportunity to finally put this all of this practice and learning to the test (pun intended!). Come glorious conquering or complete failure or somewhere in between it will be a great challenge and one I can accept the outcome of because I am going to give it a great shot. Everything I have. And at the end of the day my score does not define me whether good or bad. If I score a 180 that does not define me. If I score a 120 that does not define me.

What a cool opportunity. I hope all of you get your rest, exercise, eat well, do a little last minute review, and enjoy family and friends.

Please respond AND start your own discussion with your own spin on something positive. Let's make the discussion board a place for both lament/worry/fear AND fearlessness/encouragement/joy.

Hey guys, hope the studying is going well. I have a question about PT scores that maybe some of the more experienced members can answer. To date I have taken 6 PTs, including my diagnostic. My score had been hovering around the 160 mark, until earlier this week when I took PT 68 and scored a 162. I was quite happy about that increase in score, despite the fact that it was only a 2 point increase over my average. Today I took PT 69 and scored a 171. I was ecstatic to say the least.

My question is if this huge improvement was a reflection of a statistical anomaly/easier test, or if this a true reflection of my increased ability. I know it's hard to say without more data, and I do intend to take at least 4 more tests prior to writing on the 24th. I would just like some opinions from those of you that have knowledge about these sort of occurrences.

Thanks guys, and all the best to those of you who are writing on the 24th!

I have the opportunity to submit an optional addendum. The course suggests that the optional addendum is there to explain extenuating circumstances. Can I use this addendum to discuss why this particular school is my top school? The essays outside of the personal statement are 1. what uniqueness you bring to the school and 2. career goals. I am applying early admission to this school and I'd like to explain why it's my top choice, but wondering if that's best to save for the interview rather than include it as an addendum?

Hi! I'm taking the LSAT for the first time in two weeks and was wondering if anyone would like to share their horror experiences with test centers/proctors? I want to be able to prepare myself for the worst!

http://lsatblog.blogspot.com/2010/12/studying-too-much-for-lsat-when.html

This made me laugh and sometimes you just need to laugh before you can hit the studying hard again.