I am currently in the middle of my applications and I have ran across a bit of trouble in the Character and Fitness portion of the applications. I just need a bit of advice and feedback on this portion. If anyone could please PM me so that I may ask a few questions and get some advice I would greatly appreciate it!

Hi guys, I am having a lot of difficulty with tough conditional logic questions. When it comes to translating these from english to lawgic I just mess everything up. What can I do??

Hello!

I was confused between (B) and (C).

I thought the basic structure of argument in passage A is that since something has a bad assumption, so it doesn't work and thus must not be used.

I understand (C) is a good answer choice, but I wonder how (B) is different from (C).

It seems economic models, which presume rationality of actors, have indeed a bad assumption, so it must not be used to predict human behavior.

I would appreciate if you clarify difference between (B) and (C) and explain me why (C) is better than (B).

Thanks!

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-74-section-3-passage-3-passage/

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-74-section-3-passage-3-questions/

Hello guys, so I just had a realization that I did not want to face but I might have no choice. So my goal score is a 165 and I have taken a total of 11 PTs. My scores were 158,164,161,161,164,162 for the first 6 tests, which were fine by me and I felt as though I can take the September test and get pretty close to my target score. HOWEVER, here is my issue. I recently took PTs 73-76 in order to gear up for the September LSAT during the past week or two and I scored 158,158,159, and a 154 (which is what made me write this.). Seeing that 154 just sucked man because I was hoping to be ready by September. I'm now realizing that I may have to take the December and February(if needed) tests instead. Anyway, i have a few questions for you guys. 1. Am i making the right choice by postponing? 2. From where I'm averaging, is a 165 possible by December? Im asking this question with my recent scores of 158,158,159 and 154 in mind. These recent PTs seem to have been more difficult for me as my averages have dropped. 3. If a 165 is possible, what is the best possible approach I can take in my studying from now until December? I would appreciate ANY suggestions because I'm willing to hear out all advice. I was taking PTs almost every other day in order to get ready for September but Im now realizing that I might have made a mistake with that. Should I take less PTs per week and spend more time on BR? I would appreciate the feedback guys. I really want to be averaging a 165 by December so I want to make sure i approach studying the right way since I had to figure out the hard way that only 3-4 months of studying isn't going to cut it.

Hi guys,

So i decided to study until i average 170 on lsat. Do you think anybody can do this with hard work and dedication? Or do you believe some people are not made to hit 170?

Just took my first diagnostic since I started the course on Monday ( the recommended one by LSAC). Boooooyyyyy am I humbled.

153.

-6 LG

-10/-11 LR

-8 RC

Why am I posting this? I guess I would rather have it out there since I was a bit disappointed. 170 is the goal and I am 2 and a half months out from December/ 4 and half from February.

I thought I would have gotten at least a 160 considering I have been averaging about 75 to 80 percent on the Curriculum timed questions. Still, even an at home simulated exam felt a bit different. Those connections weren't coming as easily as they should. That's why we practice. Had to vent. Thank you for giving me the space to do so :)

I finish all of the sections in time and feel like i have a pretty good understanding of how to approach the different question types. RC is my strongest, the LG, then LR. any advice?

I am currently in the middle of my applications and I have ran across a bit of trouble in the Character and Fitness portion of the exam. If anyone could please PM me so that I may ask a few questions and get some advice I would greatly appreciate it!

Hi, so I have already graduated from a college 5 years ago and now pursuing master degree...I'm thinking to work again for a few years after I finish master degree and then take the exam. In this case, do they see the GPA from my college and master school?

I heard somewhere if the GPA is more than 10 years old, they don't actually see it.

Is this still true today?

Thanks

I purchased PT 76 and 77 from Amazon, but the format is completely wrong, has anyone successfully used Kindle versions of PTs to practice?

I have done 20↑ PTs and old ones a long time ago...

I kind of basically did all of PTs, but not enough reviews.

How much can I improve in 2.5 month? I just need to review&re-do questions I missed&improve timing I guess...

I'm not sure how much I can improve, maybe none?

I was wondering to take Sept or Dec.

I'm not in the range that I want to but...if I cannot improve a lot, maybe I should just take Sept one?

the stimulus it says "getting more calories" on the other hand D says "uses more calories" I thought the two are different things...why D strengthen the stimulus?

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-77-section-2-question-02/

I am filling out applications on lsac that require "traffic violations and parking tickets". Being 37 and have lived in many different places, I have no way of recalling all of these! I have even gotten traffic citations in the mail for up to 5 years prior that I didn't realize I had.

Also, I never paid a parking ticket on a Navy base in San Diego (circa 2010). Nothing happened. Can they tell? I have no idea even who to pay for that..it was issued by some agency that I also do not recall the name of.

I guess I should delete this post.

The conclusion here is that: Athletes who need to improve muscle strength should not use the engineered food.

Premises: Hormones produce growth in connective tissues rather than in muscle mass, which does not improve muscular strength

So, I was stuck between answer choices "A" and "C"

I tried the negation test and thought without both of them the argument falls apart.

I chose "A" because "C" was too strong and thought it was an sufficient assumption.

I'm having a hard time eliminating "A" because, I'm assuming if muscle mass does not increase strength, the premises of the argument falls apart and thus breaks the conclusion.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-31-section-3-question-21/

I just wanted to thank @"J.Y. Ping" and 7sage for helping me in making my dream come true. This journey started with an alarming diagnostic almost a year ago, and to say I lost all hope is really an understatement. I know my story would have ended quite differently if I had never found 7sage—but thank god I did. And I am happy to say I will be attending University of Virginia Law next year; perhaps I'll see some of you there!

I was wondering if there was a time limit to how long we had access to the pdf disclosed version of the exam that LSAC sent to our accounts if we took the exam on June 2016. Is there also a limit to how long we have access to the score report?

Hear me out. My situation is a bit different than most of you.

I'm not trying to get into a top school. In fact, I'm not worried at all about getting accepted to the top school in my state - the University of Oklahoma. I want to work in Oklahoma, so there's really no need for me to go elsewhere. That being said, the top 25 percentile LSAT score of OU is a 159 and I've been averaging a 161 but haven't taken that many PTs (8, to be exact).

My goal is to get a 167-170, which I know is not possible for next week's test, so I will be taking it again in December regardless of what I decide to do next week. Anyway, I'm aiming for that score because I already have quite a lot of undergraduate debt and I would like to receive a substantial scholarship so I won't have to slave for a big (for Oklahoma) law firm in order to pay my student loans - I am more interested in public policy, but don't really know exactly what I want to do yet (don't try to talk me out of law school, I have my reasons, but I don't want to explain them here).

Anyway, all of that to ask - in my situation, would it be smart to just take the test next week because there would be little pressure and I could get a good feel for what test day is like? Or, since I'm fairly certain I will be able to get at least a 165 in December, should I just wait and have one score?

I swear I am not dumb, but I have been practicing and learning since May. I just took a full test this morning and score was 147.. i usually range in the 155 range. I feel horrible considering my goal was to be at 160-165 range. I read books, took preps, reviewed my mistakes, learned from them, I'm a 4.0 senior at University of Michigan. Every LR section I miss 5 questions due to running out of time.. almost every Comprehension section I rush to finish all 4 and make many mistakes. Im great at LG but because of limited time I end up with a bad score. I honestly feel hopeless now especially since I haven't seen any progress in the past 4 months. what can I do? where to start? how to regain energy after such an upsetting score.

My last PTs are confusing me. They have been 167, 156, 161, 164, 165. I'm shooting for 168 or 169. So the 156 was due to me rushing through the exam, I've been trying to figure out how to pace myself and finally got it with this last PT 167. When I take the appropriate time on each question and read well on reading comp I do better. I employed this strategy and got the 167 on PT 74. All of these recent PTs have been in the 70s. I'm just nervous if that 167 was luck... It didn't feel like it because I really focusing and taking the time to catch small details but with my variation in scores I'm nervous coming up on the September test.

It's that time of year, and I'm wondering if past test takers can regale us with some stories or tips for test day.

I'm a first time test take myself but I'm mentally preparing for some details to go awry on test day. I know how proctors can be overly strict, overly careless like forgetting to give us a 5 minute warning, etc. I'm also aware that I may be too anxious to sleep the night prior, so I'm trying to fix my sleep schedule now.

When this happens, I hope I can be like a duck when wet: just have it all slide down my back.

What are some stories, good or bad? What are some tips, like what are you planning to eat the morning of? What's it like to show up on test day? I'm sure the test doesn't actually start at 8:30am sharp since people have to sign in. But what's the typical starting time? 30 minutes after, or even one hour?

I was wondering what thoughts or ideas you guys and gals have on prepping during the last week before the actual LSAT. Should I do more prep tests and blind review them slowly, just do timed sections? Would like to hear some strategies or ideas you have.

Thanks

This question came up on the last BR group call this Wednesday. I'm really curious what you all think about this question! I'd also love to know what your strategies and approaches for tackling this question are. It's a point of disagreement question which (I was so confident that I knew how to easily identify the correct answer to and that I haven't had much of a problem with but it still) defeated me. With the help of some 7sagers I was able to understand what I did wrong. Thanks @Daniel.Sieradzki @twssmith Thom, and @"Cant Get Right" for helping me see my mistakes and convincing me not to go back and redo everything in the CC!

I wrote out a page --a love letter so to speak---for this question in an attempt to give myself the best chance of never making the same mistakes that I did on this question again. I was between choices B and D and I had issues seeing why the correct answer was correct.

Primarily, my first careless mistake was ignoring/not discriminating enough between the meaning of "to the satisfaction of ALL skeptics"..."ALL" I selected an ac with a massive red flag sweeping generalization. Second mistake-- not eliminating B because Chin does not address extrasensory perception in terms of "if it were a real phenomenon." My third failure was that I did not correctly apply the conclusion from Chin's statement (compared to Waller's) and the answer choice as to identify which point they disagree on.

It was interesting that on analytics this question has a high degree of difficulty and most people selected the same incorrect answer I did. So basically the test writers exploited my careless mistakes with the convoluted nature of the real answer choice....well played LSAC

2 weeks back I was ecstatic cuz PT's were actually being sane.

PT 70 - 172 (I was like wut O.O)

PT 71 - 168

PT 72 - 171

Then

PT 73 - 166

PT 74 - 167

PT 76 - 167

PT 77 - 165

*(skipped PT 75 for December prep if needed)

and latest PT 78 got a 164. Now either I had a split personality take over one week/ the earlier 70's were not representative, OR .. hmm I actually have no clue.

I need some thoughts from the wonderful people out there, and if similar things have happened to you guys and how to deal with life (lol)

Also! It's my LR that has suffered. It was averaging -3 to -4 now its gone back to -4 - -7 which is rather frightening. PT 78 I actually managed a -8 in one of the LR sections...

I was wondering what exactly it is that we need to bring with us on the day of the test.

I heard from some people that I need two forms of id? is that true because all I have is my drivers license

Hi! I have some problems regarding the payments. Im from the Philippines and Im going to take my LSAT here. Then all my requirements and stuff about taking the exam, I made it through online using the LSAC but my parents are worrying on how we will pay for the $180. Can you help me? I would really appreciate it! Thank you!