I remember coming across a site a few months ago where I could do some interesting admissions analytics. I don't remember the site, but do know the following:

I realize this isn't super helpful but for the life of me can't remember the site. So really any leads would be appreciated!!! Thanks!

This post comes from an Ontario student, but it may apply to certain students applying in America/elsewhere as well.

U of T and Osgoode Hall, two of Ontario's -- nay, Canada's -- premiere law schools, do not want their applicants' resumes unless they're "mature" students (i.e. 5+ years out of post-secondary schooling). This presents a personal statement quandary for applicants like myself who are fresh out of the school game: do you tell that coherent, engaging story that omits several achievements, or do you try to fit in your achievements/extra curriculars where you can?

I feel that a lot of the personal statement resources offered throughout the internet are targeted towards students who can already use their resumes in the application process. Thus, they are implored to not "rehash" their achievements... but this advice does not seem as applicable to Canadian students who wish to apply to schools like U of T and Osgoode (among others).

What would you advise when presented with this difficulty? Do you sacrifice mentioning that award you received for graduating with the highest GPA in your department to talk about your (almost invariably) more personal accounts about volunteer positions/personal struggles/etc.? Do you sacrifice the telling of your accomplishments for consistency's sake?

Thanks for reading! If I could catch a glance from Mr. @David.Busis himself that'd be especially helpful :)

Does 7sage take into account the curve on tests when grading PTs? Also does Powerscore (if anyone knows)?

Just curious!

Hi guys,

I need some advice on the best and most effective way to study from now until the December exam. I just took the September exam. I know I will not be getting my ideal score. I didn't finish a section, and rushed two other sections...and this has never happened to me in the last month of PT'ing. So I want to take the December exam and execute my skills much better.

In giving your advice, can you tell me if you think its a good idea to take a break? I have not started studying again since the Sept 16 test day. I don't want to lose my skills I worked so hard to nail down. I am thinking to start up again tomorrow.

My other concerns are...not having enough new material. I have done PT 70-81, and I've definitely practiced a lot in the 60's so those PT's aren't completely new/blank for me either. I figure I will just start with the 60's anyways since its been a while since I've looked it them. Then next month the later 70-81 PT set should feel less familiar and I can do them over again...

I will also do targeted drills. I plan to start doing at least one RC section a day because that's one of the sections I felt really rushed on this test.

Any thoughts on this topic would be appreciated!!

Hi everyone,

Sorry if this was mentioned somewhere before, like maybe in the CC, but I am really looking for an LR study strategy that is as thorough and ordered as the LG fool proof method (which I have began applying to RC using PTs 1-35)...

My average for LR is -10 to -11 timed and -6 to -7 in BR. I have done four full PTs and the analytics tell me that Flaw and NA are my worst areas. However, I have done a number of LR sections and had the same results with no clear pattern of question type that sticks out. Now, I have done the CC for LR twice at this point and really don't want to do it for a third time. Especially since I feel I have made improvements since doing it before (especially in relation to conditional logic.)

Some have told me just to drill different question types but I'm not sure what that means... How do I put them together? Do I start by doing them timed and then do BR? How many should I do and how often? If anyone has suggestions on how to design a structured and targeted LR study strategy, similar to the LG fool proof method, it would be greatly appreciated...

If any tutors are reading this, I am considering employing one to help me for the December and/or February LSAT - I definitely have to apply for this cycle, I have been at this almost full-time for one year now.

Thanks!

'Ello all,

What are your best tips to get back into studying after the exam? Do you continue with some PTs and BR as usual?

I've watched the webinar about studying after CC. I've found that I should do some days of LG Drills & Foolproofing and then at least 1 PT with BR.

I am finding it very hard to jump back into it as the sweet taste of freedom is on my lips

Hey all,

I am planning on taking the December LSAT and, with that date looming, I am really trying to break from the high/mid-160s and move into the 170s (and beyond!). I have been reading a bunch throughout these forums with regards to study schedules, but I haven't found anything that seems to be of much help to me.

So, without further ado, I was wondering what you all suggest as my plan of attack? I have already completed the CC and done every logic game from 1 - 10, in addition to some PTests. I figured that I should try and tackle about a practice test every other day, with an intense BR session in between each test. Should I use PTests 11 - 35 to drill each section (RC is my weakest, but I could use improvement on everything, not to mention that I still have a bunch of tests I still have yet to see)? Or should I just take those as full PTests in addition?

Thank you in advance for your help!

So, I took the Sept LSAT and I left feeling completely defeated. Games is normally my best section and I guessed on a whole game and I don't feel confident about any of my RC responses. I'm feeling like I should just cancel and retake in December because I'm 95% sure I got a score much lower than I want. I'm conflicted though as to whether or not I should just see what my score was so that I can learn from the mistakes I made or if I should just cancel. I just don't know what would look worse -- a potentially really low score or a cancel. Advice?

And don't say "because of it's ranking". I'm just curious based on your goals why you're choosing a particular school(s).

Hi everyone,

I just wanted to let you know that 7Sage editor @"maura.roosevelt" compiled the 2017 application requirements for T-15 law schools. You can find it here:

https://classic.7sage.com/admissions/lesson/application-requirements-for-top-schools/

We're working on even more free resources for you.

In the lesson Valid Argument Forms 4 - 9 of 9, a corollary to valid form 6 is introduced that reads—

A –> C

B –> C

∴ /A some /B

I understand how this form follows logically and how it relates to valid form 6, but it seems as though the /A some /B conclusion would NOT hold under the following scenario despite adhering to both initial premises.

Imagine you have A's.

A

A

A

All A's are C's.

AC

AC

AC

Imagine you have B's.

AC

AC

AC

B

B

B

All B's are C's (in this case, A and B do not intersect, without loss of generality).

AC

AC

AC

BC

BC

BC

Now, the inference should be "some non-A's are non-B's," however from the above scenario, all non A's ARE B's. Can somebody reconcile the above scenario with the valid argument form?

I've seen this example brought up in the lesson's comments section, however I have not seen it addressed directly.

Thanks!

that judges passage tripped up my flow at the end of the test and i fucked up the last passage as well because of it and i just might end up scoring somewhere in mid 150s.i know that i can do much better and will for sure be taking the test again. however i'm in a dilemma if i should cancel the september score or not. i'm thinking of cancelling because its not a great score to have on record but i'm not sure so any suggestions are welcome.

What is everyone's plan for the Dec LSAT?

I am looking to go back to studying and don't even know where to start. Need to work on LG, harder RC and target LR weaknesses.

Should I drill and PT? review curriculum? Curious what others are doing. I am in the high 150's to low 160's. Looking to get a168.

Should I also write "why x" essays if I am writing a diversity statement?

I honestly think it's really hard to write interesting why x school essays unless one has regional ties or other personal, compelling reasons to go particular schools.

Hey guys! Here's the official Feb. LSAT Discussion Thread. Please keep all discussions of the Feb. 2017 LSAT here!

Here's some ground rules, taken from my usual sticky:

We know that everyone will be excited to discuss what was on the Sept. '17 LSAT, but mentioning specifics about the test (e.g., "I got B for question 6" or "the 3rd LG was sequencing") can get both us and you in a lot of trouble with LSAC. Saying that the test was hard/easy without going into detail is okay, but anything more specific is not okay. LSAC monitors this forum.

If you're unsure what may be too specific, feel free to PM me with what you'd like to post.

The only exception is you can say which sections were real or experimental. For example, the LG with "flowers" was experimental. That's okay.

TL;DR: PLEASE don't talk specifics about September's LSAT!

Here's where you can see the current Real/Experimental Sections:

https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/12783/september-2017-lsat-real-experimental-sections-keywords

Have fun discussing!

So one of the proctors phones went off during the test... is this something I should report?

On the December dates & deadlines page it says that the test will be administered on December 2, and the score release date will be January 4. That's almost five weeks...I thought that it's supposed to be three. Am I missing something?

https://www.lsac.org/jd/lsat/test-dates-deadlines/2017-2018/us-canada-dec

Hi friends,

Congrats to everyone who took the LSAT on Saturday. Potential RC crises notwithstanding, making it through an administration is an accomplishment in and of itself, I think!

I'm shifting my focus towards applications to try and take my mind off the waiting time for scores to be released, and as I'm getting more specific with school lists, I'm wondering if anyone has any suggestions for getting a feel for the "culture" of the schools. Part of my motivation comes from wanting write a kickass "Why X?" essay, but the majority of my curiosity stems from a hesitance to shell out tons of cash if a school isn't going to be a fit for me. I've obviously read all of the website and application materials, but I haven't done the whole "apply to college" type routine for some years now, and my uncovering skills may be a lil rusty. I remember for undergrad, sites like collegeconfidential felt pretty helpful at the time, but I don't know what my resources are in that vein for law school.

Any suggestions greatly appreciated. Thanks y'all!

So my original intent was to take the June and Sept retake, but I procrastinated too much to be adequately prepared for June. Having just taken the Sept test, my concern now is that, for the Dec score to make a meaningful impact, I would have to score at least 4 or so points higher. My concern is based on some data I came across previously on one of those sites (lawschoolnumbers?) that let you play around with LSAT scores and GPA ranges from thousands of former applicants, from years 2011-16ish, throughout different stages of the app cycle. Basically, you can input a particular GPA and LSAT score range along with the month the application was sent, and based on all former applicants whose ranges match those selected, it shows the percentage of those applicants who were admitted/waitlisted/rejected to the various schools they applied (you can even exclude URM). I found that, assuming equal GPA/LSAT ranges, those who applied from roughly Sept - mid/late Nov had a significant boost in their chances of admission over those who applied late Dec - March. Specifically, it appeared that one would need an increase in LSAT of at least 2 or 3 pts to make up for applying later in the cycle. So for those of us considering retesting in Dec, I'm wondering how exactly we should weigh the above info. More importantly, is anyone else familiar with this phenomenon? Would it put us in a different category, in terms of the effectiveness of our 2nd test in improving our admissions chances, if we applied in late October/early November and updated our apps with the improved LSAT scores in January, instead of submitting the application altogether in january?

Are there any law schools that take the average of your LSAT scores?

Although of all the sections I feel probably most secure about RC, I'd love to hear any suggestions of prep tests with particularly difficult RC passages.

So i recently refreshed my fundementals on these 2 question types and im running into and issue that,i think, LSAC is playing on.

According to JY NA ACs make a bridge or a block.

Wouldnt blocking a potential argument strengthen it? And similarily for bridging?

Fourth call info:

Take PT 64 and BR on your own before the call.

Submit 2-5 questions you want to review here: https://goo.gl/forms/TAUZcRjEKRrHlpOC3

Note: We will try to limit the calls to under 2 hours. We will review LR questions first and only review RC if we have time.

We will not be reviewing LG.

This step is important: Come prepared to speak through how you approached the question you submitted. If more than one of us had trouble on the same question, we can each have an opportunity to speak through our thought process/which choices we were stuck between. The rest of the group then discusses.

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Hey fighters of LSAT-evil,

During the actual exam, that 15 minute break can seriously be tempting to a lot of people to relax too much and this can be detrimental to a few of us out there, including myself. When I took the exam yesterday (sept 2017) I couldn't resist going outside, grabbing some sunshine, eat my traditional trail-mix (with extra m&m's), play with my somewhat 33 pencils (give or take) and completely stop thinking about the LSAT that was coming back to bite me in the *** 14 minutes later.

I read @LSATcantwin 's strategy during the 15 minute break regarding a personal 1-1 pep-talk with, well, yourself. That seemed really useful to me personally and am very curious to see what other people do.

What exactly goes through your mind during the actual exam during the 15 minute break? What do you do to stay level-headed and frequent in the "eyes on the prize" mode?

Hey all,

This morning was rough..like really rough..as some of you may know I've been shooting for a mid-170s score and my PTs were on par with that grade.

This morning though, I just felt like I got hit by a brick wall. I don't feel confident in my score at all.

I wanted to know, what are the potential advantages of canceling? Do law schools only look at your top score, or do they average them? Does it depend on the school? And if so, which average and which take the top ones?

Thanks,

Paul