Are there tips for practicing identifying this? Like a list of potential things each paragraph could be? the vocab always trips me up. thanks! @"Juliet - 7Sage"

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I was very happy to read this section, but I'm wondering if you might be able to refine the advice a little more. I just looked, and even were I to limit this practice to those games ranked as "medium" hard, i.e., do every "medium" game until I can do each one within the time limit and "own" the game, I'd still need to do it on 89 games (as there are 89 games ranked "medium" in the database.) Yikes.

Do you have any further advice by any chance?

Hello!

As some of you may see my name again, you may remember my absolute freak out about LG. Well fear no more! I've consistently gotten down to a -5 (-2, -3 BR) over a handful of preptests and feel much more confident. SO the next thing on the list is LR. This is without a doubt my worst section, as I know many others are in the same boat. I'm taking the June test (and will probably have to take the August test). Are there any strategies anyone has used to improve 3 to 4 questions in LR quickly? With this time constraint I know it won't be possible to get down to -5 or less, but I just wish to see a slight improvement. So, what works best? Drilling your weaknesses? Pouring over missed questions on PTs? I'm open to all suggestions and methods!

Hello,

Does the word However indicate author opinion?

Hi everyone, I was wondering if someone could help me get some info on test times for the august lsat. do we get an email letting us know when we can schedule the time? How does the system work? just a first time test taker in need of a lot of help! thanks in advance!

Hello everyone, I am really struggling and need some help/direction. I started studying in January and scored a 149 on my diagnostic, but it is May (almost June) and I am averaging 159. My goal is at minimum a 165, so I am nervous that I won't score high enough. I am getting -0 to -2 on LG (not my worry), but on LR I am averaging -8 and RC -9. I am in a rut, and I do not know what will help. I finished the content on 7Sage in mid-March, and I have been using PTs, the LSAT Trainer, and Loophole. My weaknesses in LR seems to be flaw, strengthening, and SA. For RC, I think it is the timing. Any resources or advice anyone can give? What should these next two months look like for me? Thank you in advance.

So, I "only" got a 153 on the April LSAT but had been PTing easily 157. The day of the test I had a raging sinus infection so after getting the 153 back I was like, ok, no biggie I'll just review and crush the June retake (the only school I'm applying to wants me to retake it even though I'm already within their range of other factors). Ok, fine. After taking the 3 weeks off between the April test date and score release I started getting my first low 160s... and now this last week I'm dropping to 15/27 on RC and LR!? Am I just burnt out?! Or are the tests in the 80s just insanely harder than every other PT and I'm just wasting my time retaking in June unless my timed PT this weekend is back to my normal upper 150s/low 160s?! I know, I know, I could postpone a cycle and try again but UGH.

(I put "only" got a 153 because considering I started last May/June at a 136 I think its a massive improvement in general, just not where I know I am capable of being)

Any wise tips for the next two weeks?

Overall, I am not loving anything about the LSAT right now, but LG is leaving me hopeless. I'm taking the June test and have recently resumed studying after a semester filled with the effects from a family emergency, being an athlete, and taking 18 credits. RC is actually my best section right now, where I'm hovering around an average of -5. I decided to tackle LG as my next section to work on since many say it's the easiest and quickest to fix and I just do not have the time to fix LR. However, I quickly realized it was not going to come easy to me at all. I've read the discussion board, looked at forums, and even listened to the 7sage podcast for help, and while I've tried to do what many of these places suggest (practice endlessly until you recognize game types and get more comfortable) I'm not making any progress and am left in a discouraged heap at my desk. Does anyone have any advice or methods that worked for them? I'm truly at a loss and honestly feel stupid that I cannot fix what others resolve so easily. Thank you so much.

Hi all! I'm currently working on reviewing my timed practice sections and am noticing that I am really bad at getting sucked into time sink questions.

I am working on a list of 'queues' for myself to identify when to skip without even thinking about it, as I often find myself questioning 'should I skip now?' during a section; I want to work on building the reflex so I instinctively know to skip & don't have to think about it.

Personally for me - I've noticed that the moment I'm not engaging/clicking with a stimulus is a great moment to skip (though I still seem to have trouble doing it lol). I have also noticed that I absolutely despise anything LR question with abstract concepts about 'morality, or truth' that require some serious thought to actually understand.

Other than that, I'm finding it a bit hard to pinpoint 'signs' that will tell me if it's a 4/5 star LR question to know when to skip.

I would love to hear about everyone else's skipping strategies as well as things you look out for that give you a queue to move on and come back!

Hopefully this could help others as well.

I have been a little all over the board with LR questions, averaging anywhere from -2 to -5. It's my worst section and no matter how much I review past questions I continue to make mistakes. Some seem to be due to timing because on BR I can usually find about half of my mistakes. I think my brain just goes cloudy. Any advice for LR refining in the last few weeks before LSAT/how to get over the slump? Feeling unmotivated #help

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Is there any extra advice you can give me on weakening questions? I have researched them numerous times, but on the last problem sets I feel like I have been completely guessing. One thing I have learned has been to find the assumption, and if you are told to weaken the argument then state that assumption; however, if you are to strengthen the argument, find that assumption and your answer will be the choice that states it and clarifies it so it is no longer an issue. Even with this advice, I still cannot seem to do it. Maybe I am struggling with finding the assumption? Or maybe whenever I read the questions I get overwhelmed? Regardless, weakening questions are destroying me right now and I feel helpless.

Wondering how all of you drilled valid and invalid argument forms. Wondering if I should make a quizlet, make myself a quiz? Wanted to know the most effective way and seek advice :) thanks so much

Hi guys, wanted some advice. I just did the curriculum for parallel flaw and nearly got all of them wrong. Does anyone have any tips for these questions and flaws in general? They are giving me a lot of trouble and wanted to know how you guys drilled them and found success.

So I took a PT yesterday and I got the highest I ever got (a 166). I am very proud of myself but I didn't do as hot as I wanted on RC (7 wrong) and this is actually my best with an average of 8 on RC. I need someone to help me get my RC average down a little bit. Even untimed I can't dominate RC. Thanks! Hoping to pay in the range of $30-50 a session

Hey guys, I'm PTing around 145-155s and I was inquiring on how to maximize using 7Sage for LR/LG in the amount of time from now to the testing date. Essentially, which sections should I really be hitting etc. My goal score is 160s with a DREAM score in 170+. I'm using Powerscore LG and LSAT Trainer when I'm not by my computer as well.

is anyone able to explain why E is the correct AC?

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Hi,

I have a question about how Lawgic is drawn out for LSAT 21 Section 2 Question 12 December 1996 test.

The line in the logical reasoning stimulus goes as, “Unless these techniques are implemented, erosion of productive topsoil cannot be controlled.”

JY Ping translated it into Lawgic as /I(implement) -> /C(controlled), or C -> I

However, my understanding is that the sentence should be re-written as, “Erosion of productive topsoil cannot be controlled unless these techniques are implemented.”

This line can be translated into /C -> /I since “unless” is a negate sufficient and “cannot” is negate necessary. Thus, C is negated due to “unless”, and I is negated due to “cannot.”

What am I doing wrong here?

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https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-21-section-2-question-12/

I'm taking my second LSAT in June and currently the thing holding me back from a 170+ score is my RC score. This is mostly super frustrating because I took the LSAT for the first time two years ago and it was my best section on paper. Just not seeing my previous success translate to the digital test. Any tips on how you all annotate (on your computer) or take notes (on paper) would be incredibly helpful. Currently scoring -6/-7, whereas my LG is -1/-2 and LR -2/-3.

Please help!

Knowing things like how to map no/nobody and unless and stuff like that. Is it enough for tough coniditonal lr quesitons? If not then how do you do them better?

Hey I'm back again with a dumb observation about one of these questions that I think is frustrating.

In this case we're talking about the fuel requirements for a space ship going to Mars (or its moon, Phobos).

The question premise states that the mission is manned, which, if you assume that all manned flights mandate return trips, leads you to the correct answer, E. This is not explicitly stated - it's a required assumption to arrive at this answer choice.

Now lets talk about answer choice D - the SHORTEST distance between Mars and is less than half the distance between Earth and Mars. There is one thing I can logically infer from this choice:

Now it's possible that the moon has a stationary orbit and is always further away from Earth than Mars, however, if I assume that orbits Mars, then it necessarily will reach a point where it is closer to Earth than Mars is. Or perhaps it does have a stationary orbit, and it is always closer to the Earth than Mars. Doesn't matter. All other considerations being equal, this would mean that reaching Phobos at it's closest point could possibly be closer than Mars at it's closest point.

This inference assumes nothing outside of what is stated in the question - it's an inference based on the fact that there is a non-zero difference between the distance of Earth-Mars and the distance from Earth-Phobos.

The correct answer requires an assumption - that the manned expedition requires a return trip. If we don't make this assumption, this answer resolves the discrepancy in no way.

I realize that answer choice D does not provide objectively solid resolution to the discrepancy in the passage. In fact, the language seems to indicate that it does NOT resolve the discrepancy because it explicitly states that the distance between Phobos and Mars is less than half the distance between Earth and Mars, but the trip to Mars requires twice as much fuel than the trip to Phobos.

My argument is this: We don't know what other considerations affect fuel consumption. We don't know if the manned mission is coming back to Earth. What I do know, is that I can logically infer that a greater distance traveled will lead to greater fuel consumption. The only way this is possible is if answer choice D is true - that there is a non-zero distance between Phobos and Mars.

It seems unlikely that this question would appear on a modern LSAT - it's possible that one-way manned missions to Mars were simply outside of the realm of possibility when this question was written. Today that is not true. In fact, it is very possible that the first manned mission to Mars is one-way, but who knows - it's irrelevant in the context of the LSAT which is what makes this question so infuriating. At the end of the day, I'm not concerned with whether or not I get this question right, but rather whether my reasoning is sound. Overall, my argument is that this is just a bad question, with unsound answer choices - I wouldn't actually argue that they should change the correct answer to D as that would seem to be an unfair question due to the sheer weakness of the inference in resolving the discrepancy in the stimulus.

I guess my question is would this question exist on an LSAT written today, and could this objection get it thrown out? I don't think E can be considered a correct answer unless they were to both eliminate choice D and replace it with an answer choice that in no way speaks to the distance between Phobos and Mars. Maybe I've been doing to much LR practice and I'm just losing my mind.

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Anyone know when we can sign up for time slot?

would love some help on this! I've realized I am able to get 100% accuracy when I do LG sections untimed but when I do timed I usually miss about 5-7 (more often than not on the last game) and this especially happens when there is a misc game thrown into the loop.

I foolproof everyday but i was wondering if anyone has gone through something similar and how they improved it.

If you finished core curriculum and are currently working through the pt’s with blind review, at what point can you just interrupt that process with drilling on specific weak areas?

Lg is still my weakest, and so after already doing the foolproof method on all the lg core curriculum, I was thinking I’d look through and try to do most of the types of games I’m weakest at based on the keyword 7sage groups them in. As long as I leave fresh full time pt’s to test and br with, that’s an ok approach right? I just worry because it diverges from the lesson plan. But lg is supposed to be the easiest to improve and so I feel I would get more of a return on investment putting most of my energy into that at this point

I am having a hard time finding the link for this according to the tutorial video. Anyone have this problem?

Hello Sagers,

I have been perfecting logic games but the interesting thing that I am seeing is that on certain games my timing varies on how fast or slow I finish the game but my accuracy is there with going -0. Obviously getting the correct answers is most important. However, should I focus at all on the timing?