I don't know what to do. It's really discouraging when you've spent nine months actually studying for hours almost everyday throughout the weeks and it doesn't count for anything to improve my score substantially beyond my diagnostic. How would actually putting in the work every day NOT improve your score? Really embarrassing, and really disheartening. Don't know if I will bother trying again. It's ridiculous to think all that work would do nothing, and yet it did, so it really discourages me from putting even more work in. Just being real here. Definitely considering ending this whole endeavor, it just seems like the effort won't pay off.

My sincerest thanks to YJ, the mentors and the general 7 Sage community. I hit my target score of 170 and hope that everyone else did as well or better than they had hoped. Goodbye forever!

Got my 174. Could not have done it without the resource of 7sage. The LSAT analytics helps a ton! Thank you so much 7sage for willing to share so many great resource for free! Wish everyone hit their target score <3

Hi all!

One of the schools that I'm applying to asks specifically for applicants to answer how they see themselves using their law degree in the future. The other part of the question is why you're interested in pursuing a legal education which I feel I've answered well but I'm more worried about the first part.

I don't necessarily have specific areas of law that I'm interested in pursuing at the moment. There are a number that I'm interested in but I'm really hoping to get some concrete goals when I'm actually in law school and see more realistically what that kind of work would entail. My worry is articulating this in my PS without seeming like I'm completely directionless. One thing I'm thinking of mentioning is that I'm interested in law with an element of dispute resolution and arbitration which ties in with my background but I'm not sure if this is specific enough. Should I mention a specific area that interests me (e.g. aboriginal law) or is there a way that I can say I don't really know exactly yet where I'm headed? Hopefully this worry makes sense but if not, I'm happy to clarify anything that's unclear. Thanks so much for your help! I really appreciate any insight :)

Hi all. My score came with 6~7 points lower than my usual range. (162)

Even, it was the same score I got from my 2nd take which was 3 years ago. :(

I don't know what to do or what went wrong and had a whole day feeling super gray.

I think I will try to overshoot for just one or two schools.

But would there be disadvantages for me to apply in later cycle? say, 2018? cause I think I will study for one more time, but I don't want to rush since that would be my 4th time. geez. So I am planning to get a job since I am about to graduate my grad school and then try to retake it next June.

Maybe I am overconfident but I believe I still have a hope for myself.

What would you do if you were in my shoes?

Thank you in advance. I seriously hope someday I will post on 7sage thanking all the 7sagers

for making me finally have my 170+ ! :D

Hi folks:

Here's a long question but it seems like a lot of smart people weigh in here and I wanted to provide the data.

I took the Sept LSAT. Got a 167. I took despite all warnings re: "wait until you're -0 or -1 on LGs, wait until you've peaked on PTs" - I needed to have something concrete in front of me to keep working on this decision. I self-studied from the Trainer, the PS LR bible, and the 7sage LG videos. This was up 10 pts from my diagnostic and to be honest I only really studied from early August on so a short (but very intense) run. I went -6 LR overall, -3 RC (that Mesolithic one really got me; I've been PTing a steady -0), -6 LG (ran out of time/the viruses got me). Of the LR I missed, 2 were MSS, 2 were RA, two were "what does this piece do in this argument" (one comparative, one on its own). Clearly, there are some fundamentals to be polished. I was PTing around 170 and doing more like -1 or -2 on LR for timed sections and it was the MSS/RAs giving me the most trouble along with being slow on games.

I am leaning towards retake because I am frustrated at these errors and frustrated that I am so close to being eligible for these top schools but not quite there. I am excited by the flexibility, options, and access they get me (like everyone else). I worry that if I cram for December I won't see the gains I would if I wait for February or June and do this all next year. I also worry that waiting for a December LSAT and applying then makes me too late w/my GPA and that I wouldn't see a big enough increase - but then conversely, Everyone Says that if that increased score is a 170+, it is ok to be late. I'm an older student with an Interesting History, a splitter (3.63 LSAC), and I get the impression that I will be taken as a little bit of an anomaly generally speaking.

Given this, what do you think? I am in a moment where I actually have the time to study 20-25 hours/week or so and there are so many reasons this is the moment for a big change in my life but I am 100% buying the romance of "your whole life will be different at HYCCCN" and would hate to close doors just because I am impatient. Wait? Cram? Sit it in December and if the score isn't there, chill out a minute and plan for June?

Thanks a million in advance.

For September exam, which was my third shot, I ended up getting 173.

This is still high score, but I am still wondering whether smudges for 2-3 questions in my answer sheet affected my score or not.

During the exam, I found I had marking mistakes and corrected for some questions. I erased as cleanly as possible but some gray marks were still noticeably visible.

The problem is that I took the exam in Asia, which is a nondisclosed exam, so I cannot check whether the machine correctly marked my answer or not.

What do you think guys? Should I apply for handscoring? I don't want to waste my money but since higher score with 2 or 3 points will give me much better chances of scholarships so honestly I am leaning toward handscoring... Is there anyone who was or is in similar circumstances?

I am done with the curriculum, though I am sure I will revisit it. However, I was planning on going through the LSAT trainer first before doing more PTs. My question is if anybody did that already, did you see your score improve after LSAT trainer?

It's going to be three hours since it went grey, but I don't have a score (and an email) yet. Is anyone else in the same boat? Sighhhhh...

So my top choice for law school is UBC, and I have a GPA on par with their requirements (83%). But my LSAT score is a 10 points below what they say they have as their 'average' for the previous year. Should I even apply? Or simply wait and plan to re-write? Do I have a chance?

Any tips on how you guys improved reading comp? I'm signed up for December and have been fool proofing LG's 1-35 and I'm already seeing improvements. I just took PT 62 and scored a 163, which is close to where I want to be.(165+ preferably) My problem is that I scored a 163 despite my terrible RC score. 22/26 and 23/26 were my LR scores as well as a 20/23 for LG... However, I scored a 13/27 on RC. I usually average 16-20 on RC but, 13? lol. Pretty annoying to be honest because I feel like I'm improving everywhere else. I don't even know if there is a clear cut way to improve RC but I guess I'm going to have to incorporate a lot more RC passages into my daily studying. This is more of a rant/ asking for advice type of post. Appreciate any feedback!

It's GRAY DAY!!!!!!

I received my score, and I'm a bit disappointed. It's two points below my expected score, and three below my most recent PT average. This score is 4 points below the 25% of my reach, and 1 point to 3 points above the 25% of schools i know I'll be satisfied with.I know I wouldn't be able to see a significant increase if I take December, because I'm writing my thesis right now and that takes up most of my time. Here are my options:

1. Apply to internships/jobs and wait to retake in Sep 2017. Then apply Fall 2018. There are a couple of drawbacks for this option: I'm an international student, and finding a paid internship/job is not the easiest thing, especially because I hold a liberal arts degree in the social sciences. If I have to apply while being unemployed, it will be a bit financially difficult for both my parents and me. I am also currently working with an application counselor, and I don't know if she is willing to wait until next cycle to continue working with me (without asking me to pay for next year as well).

2. Apply this cycle, and make the decision of retaking/reapplying when I get my admission results. If I'm happy with my results, I will enroll 2017. If not, I can retake the LSAT and reapply.

What do you all think?

I have received my LSAT score for my second take and it was around a 8 point drop from my high 160s PT average. I'm not sure how exactly I should study for my third take. For context, I didn't get any sleep the night before the exam, and as I said in an earlier post, my RC performance suffered drastically from the Eileen Gray passage onward. Even though I did surprisingly well on the virus game and the LG, I under-performed on LR as well. Since I have been studying for about 2 years, I have seen virtually every Preptest, including the February exams and C2.

Besides getting more sleep, reviewing (including BR) my mistakes on this particular PT as well as other ones and drilling problem spots, I was wondering what more could I specifically do to improve my performance and make sure I could at least hit my PT average or do better. For making gains in RC, I was considering reading Supreme Court cases in my free time. Although I do read the Economist and Scientific American, I was also considering the opinion section of the NY Times to analyze the pieces for potential flaws and assumptions.

I was wondering when this exam will be available in the grader. I would love to be able to analyze trouble spots in my take without actually seeing the questions themselves before I plan to retake on my own.

as ive been studying and reviewing questions ive been getting better at selecting answer choices and being confident in my choices (thinking "yup, i know this answer choice is right"), i come across a few questions (particularly in LR) that makes me do a double take. i can narrow it down to two answer choices and then the face the dilemma of i feel that a question is right on gut but i tend to go with the other choice because it seems to make more sense in my head. this tends to backfire on me and can cost me 2-3 points. can anyone give me some tips or advice for how to condition myself to lean on my instincts and commit to it. it was hard enough to gain confidence for my answer choices test as is

I just got my September scores back, and I made a 165. My average PT was 168 (range of 167-169), and I really feel like I could bump my score up to at least a 167. I kind of panicked on test day and it really threw me off.

For reference, I have a 3.79 GPA, and I don't really have any super high goals as far as T14 or anything. I'm comfortable with my score for admissions to the schools I'm aiming for, but I'd like to increase it for financial aid awards. Is it foolish to think that 2-3 points will make a significant difference for scholarships?

I'm leaning heavily toward retaking in December, even if it's just to prove something to myself. However, I would really like to get my app in now rather than wait until January. Can I apply with my current score and supplement later just for financial aid? Or should I hold off on applying until January?

If you feel comfortable answering, what was your diagnostic and what did you score? My diagnostic was 145 and my September 2016 LSAT score was 160 which was the same as my last 5 preptest averages. Shooting for a hopeful170 in June

Okay so September scores came out today and congratulations to everyone who did well. I unfortunately am not one of those people. My diagnostic was a 150 and after 21 PT's and 4 months of studying my average of my last 5 tests was a 160. With my last 5 tests being 160, 161, 160, 156, 162. I scored a measly 153 on the S16 LSAT.... just three points above my diagnostic and 7 points below my average. To get into all

If the schools I want to go to (regional, reach and safeties) I NEED a 160. I got 3.5 hours of sleep the night before and test day nerves completely got to me. I knew I did horrible but got tripped up on stuff I usually do well on. Shockingly, I got every single virus game question right and only went -2 on Eileen Gray. I usually always, ALWAYS go -5 on LR. I got -10 on both sections. Even with my abysmal -14 on RC (usually go -8), I would still would have gotten a 159 if I scored how I normally do on LR. Here is my question.

I am already registered for December. Is it possible to see my 160 average be my actual score for the Dec LSAT?

At this point, I am honestly considering taking a gap year, taking the June 2017 LSAT, and applying September 1st of the next admissions cycle. Perhaps by that point I could see a 165? Maybe?

Or perhaps despite whatever average I may achieve, test day anxiety always gets to me and I will still score far below what I wanted. Any thoughts?

My softs are super strong. 5 years in the military, currently working st law firm. GPA is a solid 3.53.

So is it possible to see my 160 in December? Or do I wait for june and push my entire lives plans back another year?

Thank you beloved people!

I got one point above my highest PT score, so I am actually really happy! However, I am 2 points away from being in my top school's 75th percentile. With my GPA I am currently in between 50-75 percentile. I honestly do not want to retake, but I would also like in state tuition for this school. Will 2 points be a big deciding factor?

So the title pretty much is my question. I understand that when practicing logic games it is helpful to prove each wrong answer choice. But during the actual LSAT, would it be more time efficient to just pick the right answer choice based on the game board inferences and move on? Or would is it worth the time to make sure the other answer choices are wrong?

For example, if I see on my board game inferences that answer choice A is right, should I just move to the next question without reading the other answer choices? or should I still read them to make sure that answer choice A is right. Thanks!

So overall, I either suck terribly at the SA questions during the PT process where I spend too much time on mapping out the lawgic or when I go over it during my blind review, I even sometimes get them wrong again. I have pulled SA questions from the question bank and plan on practicing them but I am wondering if anyone has any advice on how they improved on SA questions. JY basically said these should be freebies for you, but they're not freebies for me at all.

One thing I noticed I haven't been doing is labeling the conclusion and premises which I will definitely start doing.

Any advice/help/thoughts would be really helpful.

My PT score I got today was really disheartening. It had a lot of SA questions (more than usual) and that killed me.

Thanks

First, congratulations to everyone who did great. Very proud of you guys and also thank you 7sage for your courses. I have never been the best taker. I studied my butt of the last past 4 months. It was my first time taking the test, I scored a 136 :(. I am extremely bummed. Law school has been my dream. I am sorry I am venting, I am on this journey by myself. Can you guys please give me advice of how to approach restudying? I spent countless hours and working two jobs did not help. I am going to retake it in December and clear my schedule. Do you guys think it is realistic to do well by then?

Especially with September 2016's spectacular passage about Eileen Gray's work, I was wondering what strategies you guys had with dealing with difficult passages and remaining calm. I was feeling confident after the first passage, but my focus was totally shot after that passage and I let one bad passage mess up my groove.

Hi everyone! I have been studying for the LSAT on and off for 3+ years due to test anxiety/working full time.

In 2013, I sat for the test and cancelled my score. When September 2016 rolled around, I was ill the day of the test and couldn't make it, so I will have an "absence" on my record. I am scoring in the range I want to be in and hope to test in December, or February - though I don't want to miss another application cycle.

Long story short, I am very afraid schools will penalize me for my cancellation/absence and see this as a sign of flakiness.

Has anyone been in a similar position? Thank you!