I find myself doing worse on the sections after the 15 minute break. I feel like I get "out of my zone" after going hard on the first 3 sections. Anyone have any strategies to combat this?

(Link to explanation for ease of access: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-28-section-2-game-2/ )

"Each of the following could be a complete and accurate list of the researchers who learn both S and Y EXCEPT:

A) H

B) P

C) HL

D) HP

E) LP"

I am having a really difficult time understanding this question. How can 4 of the ACs ALL be complete and accurate? As far as I understand it, a list that is complete AND accurate can take only one form... the one with all of the correct elements listed. So I don't understand what this question is asking for at all. I wasn't even able to understand the explanation because I couldn't comprehend what the question is asking for.

Please help me understand this one, thanks!

I almost finished the LR part of the CC. I wonder what materials you guys use for RC.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

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Hey Guys,

This may seem like a stupid question but.... I have always made copies of logic games when they were 1 page each, and I constantly redid them until the inferences stuck in my head as JY says.

Now, I am at 2 page logic games, and I am wondering the best way to copy them. Do you double side them? Or do you just do 2 separate pages?

I just took a PT today. I debated not taking it because I was super tired and I've just been not channeling positive LSAT energy these past few days. Still, I told myself I could do it and took it.

I was pretty happy because I thought I had been doing well, applying my processes and whatnot. Then I graded it and was floored: -6 in RC, -6 in LR1, and -4 in LG. I haven't seen such consistent bombing in a long time -- usually it just requires warm up and MAYBE I'll just rank one section, but rarely 3 in a row. What kills me is that I did much worse on this PT than I did 2/3 months ago, meaning somehow my score indicates my reasoning ability is getting worse which I know logically doesn't make sense but still feels that way.

Just needed to vent because I'm trying not to feel so distraught. I've been doing a good job of maintaining a positive mindset but my positivity is wearing out and now I'm feeling incredibly anxious.

My card has enough money yet won't let me sign up

Hey everyone,

I just wanted to get different ideas of how I can possibly go about reviewing LR questions that I have done during a timed test that I was either unsure about or I got wrong. Here are a couple of ideas I have.

1. Re-do a unmarked copy of the stimulus. Mark premise and conclusion. And if possible write down the pre-phrase of the anticipated answer.

2. Write for each answer choice why you think it is wrong/right.

3. Watch JY's video. And compare how he solved it vs. how I solved it.

4. Write down if either system was better or what you learned from the video.

5. Write down how you would do it differently in the future to avoid the same mistake. I think this is key.

Feel free to add recommendations and let me know how all of you guys do it! Or what works and what does not work :DDDD

Does anyone know if there is somewhere that I can download past exams as PDFs instead of eBooks? I'm looking specifically for PT 72-77 ... not necessarily looking for a free download (if so, then great! lol) as I am willing to pay for them.

Does anyone know where I can find these? Or if anyone has PDFs of them --- would you be willing to share?

Thanks :)

I'm currently signed up for the September LSAT next weekend, but I plan on withdrawing from it because I don't feel ready. I've heard that if I take the December LSAT, even though pretty much every law school is willing to accept those scores, my chances of getting in might be lower/less scholarship money. I'm currently a full time student and I've been studying LSATs whenever I can. I made a pretty big leap from end of August until now, my average is about 162, but the last few I have taken under good, quiet conditions were around mid-160s (164, 166, 166). I'm aiming for a 170 but I'm not sure I can get there by December, nor do I want to lose out on a chance of getting into a great law school because I applied a little later in the cycle. Would it be better to wait for the next cycle (take the June 2017 LSAT, apply in the fall of 2017?) I would have already graduated by then, and would probably need to find a job or internship that is willing to take me for only a year. I've been struggling with these thoughts since September started. Thoughts, anyone?

I'm in need of advice. I've been feeling unwell since the beginning of this week, and I thought it was just another burnout. So I lightened my LSAT workload but kept doing school and work as usual. However, some flu symptoms showed up yesterday and I feel really sick today. I sat down to take a PT this morning, and felt extreme fatigue and had a horrible headache. I'm really worried for the test next weekend. I've been prepping for a long time, and I have been hitting my target score before this week. What should I do?

so hopefully this is a temporary loss of clarity, but I can't quite articulate the difference. In grouping games it seems that both A-->/B and A(--)/B can both be represented visually on a gameboard stacked in a box with a slash no? As in, if A is in a group then B is not; compared to A and B cannot both be in the same group.

Someone get my back!

Hello all! I have a quick question. I'm in the PT phase of my studies, and I'm wondering if 7sage has a tool that shows all the questions I've marked with a star? I typically star the questions I've got wrong on my first go around, and was hoping I could see a full list of those that I marked over the course of my studies thus far. I figured this would be a good strategy for addressing my weaknesses before I continue to move forward. Not sure if this is a thing or not, but any information/advice is always appreciated!

I think it is hard for new PTs, but what about those PTs I have already done?

Should I still take time, like 2 or 3 days for re-do the questions and review them?

And, if I want to re-do the questions, should I just re-do the ones I missed or all questionns includin the ones I got correctly before?

Thanks,

Hey! Does anyone have a list of outlier logic games and LR questions from PT 60-78? For those writing in September but don't have the time to go through all those PTs. I'm still unsure if I'm taking the September test. Time is ticking :( I'm planning to take PT 72 this saturday before I make a decision. Thanks in advance!

Hey Guys,

I've officially decided to take the December LSAT instead of the September LSAT. I experienced heavy burnout and took the last 2 weeks easy and in order to maximize my score I know I need to take it later.

My question is: How does one use the 7Sage starter package? Do you have any recommendations on how to use the videos to guide my studying. How many hours should I watch per day? Should I supplement the videos I watch with question sets not included in the quizzes? Do you recommend spending a couple days on a certain section?

I guess what I'm aiming for is to use the actual videos to build an even stronger foundation, however I want to finish that with enough time for me to do just PTs for a solid 3 weeks before the December 3rd exam date.

All in all: How did you use 7Sage to structure your learning? Thanks!

Hey Guys,

I submitted my transcripts, and I saw that they have degree GPA and normal GPA. Which one do law schools primarily look at? Does degree GPA really matter?

lawlz so this question is a monster, but watching JY's explanation helped.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-76-section-2-question-24/

He explains that the larger argument pattern is:

A --> absurd

not(absurd)

-------------

not (A)

This really helped clarify what I was seeing here. BUT what I can't really fully understand is why we even need to further connect A-->absurd. Isn't A--->absurd already spelled out to us as a premise? Shouldn't we just accept that is what we're given and prove that the necessary assumption is not(absurd)? I understand how "popular" connects "intending pleasure" to "sales figures" but am failing to understand this on a larger level, I think.

w00t for last minute fine tuning with monster questions!

thanks in advance for any clarification here!

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Hello,

When you draw sub-game board or mini game board for questions that add new rules, do you draw "X cannot be here" or "X must be here" rule each time? Or do you just refer to the original board for those rules?

Thanks

WE ARE UNDER 10 DAYS TO GO UNTIL SEPTEMBER TEST DAY. HAIR IS ON FIRE.

One of my favorite things about 7sage is the analytics section for viewing trends and trying to understand the data of the test and the group of PTs as a whole for each individual 7sager.. But I was wondering if there were analytics or a way to have some indication as to what to expect from upcoming tests. As an example, I suppose it could be that, historically, the hardest tests are December tests, or that an experimental section question makes a real test appearance after (x) amount of tests, or that a test with a lenient curve is followed by an easier test with a stricter curve. Has anyone looked into this? Are there any broad analytics that can give us an indication as to what we should expect? Any advantage is one worth pursuing as far as I'm concerned!

Thanks for your insight,

James

+1 if you get the reference in the title

I have just upgraded to ultimate+ from ultimate for the sake of newer PT explanations. I was almost finished with my core curriculum in ultimate account and now the progress bar rolled back.......

Lost some patience/confidence when I logged in again. Wish there could be a function to let us choose the lower account material only.

Hopefully there is enough time for Dec Lsat.

Hey everyone,

I'm sure some of you have seen discussions about this too. Can anyone provide conclusive evidence that the writing sample must be written in cursive? I have been told that it needs to be, but I can't find anything that suggests this from the LSAC or in the directions for the writing sample. I really would rather not have to write in cursive, so if someone could put this to bed, I'd be very appreciative. :)

Hi guys, I was helping my friend out with conditional logic today because I thought I had a grasp on the material but it turns out I dont....

So there was a statement from one of his textbooks he asked me to help him out with and I got it wrong.

Dmitry might play volleyball or squash, but he cant play both.

(edit meant to say might play not, might can)

So I thought great this is a bi-conditional because I see or but not both.

So I made it into: (~V (---) S) & (V (---) ~S),

But it turns out in his textbook the answer was (S -> ~V) & (V -> ~S).

So is this a different way of showing the same relationship, if so do you prefer one method over the other?

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