Hi guys!

do you know if it's common for waitlisted(or sometimes I think they use the word "reserve" listed) candidates to be accepted after getting a higher score on their February LSAT? I already have an LSAT score but I got waitlisted at a school recently and I was hoping to gain admittance with a higher LSAT score. Not sure if that's a common thing that happens....or how they even decide which candidates to admit since the waiting lists are not ranked.

Hi all,

What’s the most efficient way to study for the next two weeks? Should I be doing one prep test per day at this point?

I work part time, so I have the mornings free and also the evenings.

Fyi I have been spending most of my time doing BR and haven’t done a lot of prep tests. I’m still struggling with timing for logic games so my strategy is to just focus on three out of four games.

Edit: I have already taken at least 10 preptests in the past two months

Hi- Cannot seem to grasp this question type. Any study advice or help?

Hi Group, I’m very frustrated because I cannot figure out if S and Y, W and Y, and V and Z are not both or biconditionals for Prep Test 26, Section 1, Game 3. I believe JY said it both ways on two different videos for the same game. Can someone help me? I just spent 1/2 hour reading through related discussions and my understanding is now at zero.

Also, Finding the correct test for this grouping game problem set 1 was unbelievably difficult. Honestly, sometimes it’s like pulling teeth just to get the basic stuff that you paid for.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-26-section-1-game-3/

By which, I mean can a conclusion be divided between two complete sentences. Where in the sum of the two sentences create the fully fleshed out conclusion. If so, does the sentence have to have a comma or can it be “Sentence 1. +Sentence 2 = conclusion.”

Regards,

Dalton

Hi.

I got this question correct but I was debating between A and C.

I chose C at the end because Max was harmed without consent and Wesley benefit from the Max's result in the report.

I just wanted to make sure why A is incorrect.

I assume that A was incorrect because Sonia did not benefit from having harm to another person because at the end both children were kept afterschool. Am I correct?

I was accepted to Harvard this morning!!!!! I couldn't have accomplished this without the awesome community at 7Sage and without JY's fantastic guidance. Thank you :)

Hi all, is there a way to print out questions from the QBbank? I would like to start drilling LR questions and find it easier to do them on actual paper so I can take notes and underline what is important to retain. Thanks.

Hi all,

In your experience, do all schools with a status checker switch your application status to 'under review' or something similar before sending you an admissions decision? Or do some simply mark your application complete and then eventually send you their decision?

Just trying to brace myself for who I might expect to hear back from soon.

Hey guys, a 7Sager asked a question and I thought you guys could help out! Here it is:

I have about 10 fresh PTs left and I'm registered for the February test, and was wondering if it would be advisable for me to leave all of them untouched for the June test or to go through only the LG sections before the Feb test? I heard there are a lot of curveballs/weird games for the late 70s tests which I haven't solved yet, and so I thought it would be a good idea to get as much exposure to them.

And in the meanwhile, would it be best for me to re-take older PTs that I've forgotten and hardcore blind review like we did together?

Hi,

I take like hours to review questions that I got it wrong... I go through every answers and try to figure it out why each is wrong or right...

I've noticed if I review like 10 questions.. I spend almost an hour... sometimes more..

Am I the only one who's taking this long? Is this normal?

Hey There is this question in one of the quizzes and we are supposed to negate it:

Drug-related crime is not as serious a problem for the city as the mayor claims it is.

I read it as “all” drug related crime is not as serious a problem for the city as the mayor claims it is.

So wouldn’t this be the negation: Some drug related crime is as serious as the mayor claims it is or more?

This is the answer that was written for the quiz:

It’s not the case that drug-related crime is not as serious of a problem for the city as the mayor claims it is.

Drug-related crime is just as serious of a problem for the city as the mayor claims it is, or it is more serious. (Which is the same thing as saying – some drug related crime is as serious of a problem for the city as the mayor claims it is)

Anyone?

So in fall, back when I was hoping for this cycle, I met with my recommenders, then had to let them know I'm delaying until the next cycle. Now I just want to send them a quick update so we stay in the loop with our communications and so they can make plans for scheduling the writing and letter submission in the next several months. Has anyone written one of these interim emails before?

I've just started the LG section of the CC and I can't even set up the board game correctly in some of the questions. When did you start seeing improvement?

I am new to 7sage and I have not completed the cc yet and am wondering if I should finish the cc before I start drilling the topics that I recently finished with. Any help would be great, thanks guys.

Hi,

I didn't understand how A is worded.. can somebody translate this French into English. Thank u.

"This strategy lacks a counterproductive feature of the rejected alternative"

So the following is the order that I attempt again when I come back after I skip them during the 1st pass in an LR section:

Do you guys have any other suggestions?

June'18 Study Group | Blind Review PT 48 | Tuesday, Jan 30th | 7:30 pm EST

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I hope you're ready or gearing up to start PTing for the June 2018 LSAT. Join us this Tuesday if you are finished with the CC.

Provisional Schedule: https://calendar.google.com/calendar/embed?src=f3n8s2l60gkgm2ju8m8kk4vhn4@group.calendar.google.com&ctz=America/New_York

Note:

For everyone: take the PT under timed conditions; BR as you are able on your own; then join us for all or part of the call—everyone is welcome.

Note: For the purposes of the call, we like to check our group blind review score together at the very end of the call :) So at least don't say ... "No guys, really, it's D, I checked it.” KEEP THE CORRECT ANSWER TO YOURSELF. Win the argument with your reasoning.

These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).

The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via GoToMeeting and intellectually slaughter each test.

Mark any questions you wish to go over on the spreadsheet below!

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June'18 Study Group | Blind Review PT 48

Tue, Jan 30th, 2018 7:30 PM - 11:30 PM EST

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This is sort of random. I'm not exactly superstitious. I do strongly believe in the power of mind control and know that mindset plays a powerful role in the LSAT. Also, I know confidence is important. So, this happens to me, and I'm wondering if to anyone else. For instance in LG fool-proofing. I get on a roll where I'm doing fantastic. I'm getting -0 and under JY's recommended time. Then I feel great, I mean I feel great. Then, shortly thereafter, I'll screw up. And I think it's my confidence that gets in the way. I screw up and then curse myself. But then, once I have that awful feeling of sucking, I do better again. But, the happy feeling feels much better than does the discouraging feeling. It's like the discouraging feeling helps me to pay more attention to the rules. Being on cloud 9 has my judgment cloudy. How do I level this playing field for myself? Do I need to go into my test feeling like shit and doubting myself in order to do well? That does not sound like the type of mindset anyone would suggest... * sigh *

Do all Law Schools use the index formula that computes your UGPA? adding withdrawals and f's into your gpa? I am mainly interested in which schools in New York follow that. Thank you

Hello everyone!

I was hoping that someone could give me some advice on how to tackle the LSAT if you are a slow reader.

A little background: I wrote the LSAT this past september, scored 145, rewrote in December and scored 155. I am re-wrtiging again in two weeks, and I have been improving consistently. However, one thing I don't seem to improve on is my reading speed. I consistently don't get to answer the last 5 questions in arguments, and I always barely make it through 3 out of 4 passages. If I try to read faster, I start misunderstanding what I read and get lost. Overall this has been very frustrating. I would really appreciate if anyone could give me some points on how to fix this! I don't think I can handle writing this test more than 3 times :|

Okay so I’m stuck on what to do here.

Situation: one of my transcripts is getting updated and removing credit hours (but leaving the grades) for 20+ units of failed, and dropped, classes.

I have already applied to 16 schools.

What do I do? Do I call all 16 schools? Will this change my gpa? What does this even mean?

Is it worth pushing or should I leave the cards on the table as they are?

Bleh I don’t even understand what is happening! And I don’t know what to do...

I've had to email admissions about a couple of things, and I'm not sure how to address the people who respond. When it's not a Dean (say, "admissions officer"), do you reply with first name? Ms/Mr? My job is so crazy casual that I think I've lost judgment on what's appropriate haha.

Hello everyone!

A couple weeks ago I posted a discussion and many people thought it would be a great idea to have a thread dedicated to helpful tips for those who have to balance working full-time with their study routine. Well here's the thread! I've tapped @"Cant Get Right" and @LSATcantwin, two Sages who worked full time while studying and still managed to score 170+ on the LSAT, to give us some helpful tips on what we can do to beat this test all while working 40+ hour weeks, taking care of families, running errands and all around keeping our lives afloat. Below are their answers in a Q&A Format, and I gotta say, it's some GREAT advice. So if you're feeling overwhelmed with work and study, definitely take a few minutes to read. I've also included the recording from @"Accounts Playable" 's AMA from 1/8/18 below. Starting at ~42 min he gives some awesome tips to those who go to school full time and are studying as well. Happy Reading + Happy Studying!

Q&A with @LSATcantwin

Score Range

Diagnostic: 151, Attempt 1: 157, Attempt 2: 163; Attempt 3, 171

Length of study time

Year and a half (May 2016 - Dec 2017). From May 2017 until October 2017 I studied about 20 hours a week.

What successful study habits did you incorporate into your routine while working full time?

Lunch became dedicated LSAT time. It was an extra hour I got to throw into the mix each day. I would eat and review questions or do LG. Half my commute was spent on public trans, I would do LG or study LR on the train as well.

What was your ideal study schedule and how did that help you reach your goal score?

Monday - Friday; Get to work an hour early and study. Study during my hour lunch break, study 2 hours or so at night when I got home. (4 hours or so a day) (2 hours at night included blind review of my Sat PT); Saturday; Timed PT; Sunday; rest.

How did you find the time to juggle work with studying?

Basically just took any "free time" I could find and dedicated it to LSAT.

What concrete tips can you give those who are struggling working full time while studying part time?

Burnout is real and it isn't only the LSAT that can cause it. Remember to give yourself breaks, down time and sleep. Don't compare yourself to other people studying. Lots of people are going to be studying full time or only working part time. They might make faster progress than you, but you'll still make progress I promise. Time management is key. With 40 hours a week dedicated to our job free time is hard to come by. It is even more limited when you have other responsibility to worry about (children, dishes, cooking, cleaning, friends, family...) I gave up running and working out for more time. Because I love cheese I gained about 20lbs over the year and a half....Time to start running again! haha! Remember to be as open as you can with your employer/family/friends. I sent a massive text to all my friends explaining my situation. I apologized and told them I was not ignoring them or blowing them off. I made it clear that my goal was T-14 and I was working my butt off to get there. My friends understood and did not hold it against me. I did much the same with my family.

What were some mistakes you learned during your study process?

Don't do things that are unnatural for you. I tried waking up before work (at 4am) to study more. My body hated this, and in turn, I got nothing out of those hours of studying before work. Don't try and break yourself. Slow and steady will win the race. Don't be afraid to take extra time to study. Working full time will slow us down. Don't create a timeline. The LSAT isn't going anywhere, so make sure you are getting the score you want before you take the plunge.

Any other tips for success?

If you can't teach something to someone else, you probably don't understand it yourself. During my studying I spent a TON of time on 7Sage. My favorite posts were specific to questions. I would open them immediately and try and type out an answer that explained the question. In so doing I was able to spot many weaknesses because sometimes I couldn't explain why the right answer was correct. Other times I'd be able to explain it with relative ease and these were questions I knew I understood.

Q&A with @"Cant Get Right"

Score Range

Diagnostic: high 140's,

Officials: 163, 162, 170, 176

Length of study time

Two years+ (Summer 2015 - Sept 2017).

What successful study habits did you incorporate into your routine while working full time?

I set a very low daily minimum study time--one hour most days. One hour is manageable on the worst of days, and so it always got me started which was frequently the hardest part. I enjoyed studying and so I often found myself engaged and wanting to continue. Other days, I didn't. On those days, I fulfilled my minimum daily requirement and allowed myself to leave it at that without guilt. Studying for the LSAT requires high energy, and when the energy isn't there the returns on study time are going to be miniscule. Recharging and managing your energy is essential. In all seriousness, I learned to view taking one night off a week to eat pizza and catch up on TV as an essential part of my study routine.

What was your ideal study schedule and how did that help you reach your goal score?

Morning before work was always best. After work, there was very low chance of having the energy to study at a high level. I began going to bed earlier and earlier in order to create more and more study time before work. This allowed me to, in at least some small way, prioritize LSAT over work. Work took more of my time, but LSAT got me at my freshest.

How did you find the time to juggle work with studying?

Strict scheduling. Time management must be done proactively which was not something I was really used to. For the first time, I made a google calendar and began chopping my days into blocks. I accounted for as much as I could. Work went down first. Then sleep. Then LSAT. Then everything else. And the everything else is really important, so you have to leave space for it. I tried to be ambitious at first and devote every waking hour away from work to LSAT and that burned me out real fast. Flexibility is also important. Sometimes you just need to take a week off when you just can't stand to look at the test anymore. One time, I was taking a PT on my day off and I had a total meltdown. You can't let it get to that point.

What were some mistakes you learned during your study process?

I didn't adjust my timeline to my reality. I thought I could work full time and conquer the LSAT on the side in only a few months. This is a mistake many people make, but I think it's particularly destructive for those of us who work. My best score while still working was a 163. I came a long way in that time and that was a score that would open a world of possibilities to me. I had enough savings to leave my job and study full time, so I acknowledge that my advances after that are perhaps of questionable value for those who aren't able to quit work. However, I do think it's worth acknowledging that most of the mistakes I made were not corrected until after leaving my job, and leaving my job was not a part of those corrections. I didn't even find 7Sage until after I quit working. Looking back on it, I realize that it is much more important to study correctly than to study full time. It just takes longer. Had I continued working but made the same shift in my mentality, I am positive I would have been successful. On the other hand, I could have studied full time for a decade without changing my mentality, and I know I would have never improved.

Any other tips for success?

Seek understanding rather than a score--understanding of logic, understanding of language, understanding of testing strategy, understanding of every component of taking the LSAT. If you achieve a higher level of understanding, a higher score will follow. If you chase a score, you will always be trying to push beyond your understanding rather than advancing it.

AMA with 7Sager @"Accounts Playable" 1/8/18

Apparently, schools are aware of when you begin filling out an application for them. I began an application to a certain school but did not finish it, and just got an e-mail from them telling me that they know that I began an application to them and should get a move on finishing it by the end of the month!