I’m taking the test in December but I’m planning to re-take in February if I don’t achieve a high enough score. (I’m really close to my goal but not consistent enough that I feel confident I’ll achieve it in December.) I’m planning on applying for next fall. My question is, if I don’t score high enough in December will I be rejected from schools based on that score or will they wait for my February score? Alternatively, could I be jeopardizing my chances of being admitted based on my December score if schools see I’m registered for February so they don’t consider me until then and spaces get filled?

If anyone knows how this works I would be grateful! Thanks :)

Hi All,

I applied about three weeks ago and last week I received an email inviting me to interview. I interviewed last week and was wondering if getting a HLS interview is a good sign for my chances of admission?

So, I finally got around to broaching the subject to an admissions dean that I know socially about the GRE vs. LSAT issue. Their school is not taking GRE right now and they said even if they do take it down the road, for the foreseeable future they are really unofficially gonna want to see a high LSAT score and it will "count more" than a high GRE. The GMAT vs GRE example was mentioned. Unofficially, the attitude seems to be to consider why the applicant couldn't or wouldn't do what is needed to do well on the LSAT.

Hey All,

Should I include the same header for my resume that I do my personal statement? (Name, LSAC Number, Résumé)? NYU requests that you include this information for each attachment, so I added the header on my resume for them; however, I’m wondering if I should do that for the other schools as well. It sort of just adds extra clutter onto the page but if this is something schools find helpful or are expecting, I'd like to put it there.

Thanks

Hi guys,

I am having trouble understanding JY's reasoning behind choosing correct answers in the above problems.

PT73.4.19 is a necessary assumption question and PT34.2.2 is a sufficient assumption question, and their premise - conclusion reasoning is essentially identical:

We should do A, so the author concludes that we should do B.

In PT34.2.2, the correct answer was (E), which says A -> B.

However in PT73.4.19, the correct answer was (B), which says, B helps A, which kind of sounds like the typical reversal answer choice. I understand how the correct answer choice was necessary for the argument to make sense, but if (B) said A helps B, would this be incorrect answer choice?

On a side note, how should I approach a conditional statement containing the word, "do"?

In PT34.2.2, JY draws a conditional diagram using "Do it," because the stimulus says "the city should always do what makes good economic sense," whereas in PT73.4.19 JY does not, even though the stimulus says "we must do what we can to prevent this loss of motivation." I understand either approach can lead to choosing the correct answer, but what should be the rule of thumb?

Any help would be appreciated.

Are you aloud to write on the LSAT test page? For example underlining and bracketing sentences. Also writing notes on the column of the test.

I took PT 82 last weekend and totally blew it. I choked on one whole LG section (in that it took forever) and then had less time to spend on the others (plus, I got several wrong on the one I choked on). I'd decided to do the RC that had the most questions first, since while I do reasonably well on RC, I always seem to have to rush through the last one because it often has a lot of questions. Well the RC with the most questions on this test was the judge one, and so that messed me up, too. I basically ran out of time to one whole RC section.

I was also trying a skipping strategy, but that just got blown out of the water.

I normally PT around 163-164 now, pretty consistently, but this one was a 158. My BR Scores have been going up and on the 163/164 PTs I usually BR around 169. BUT on this 158 test I BRd at 177!

I was pretty happy with that and part of me thinks maybe I just had a bad day and the BR is proof that my actual score would have been higher on another test.

So I don't know whether to be pleased overall about the BR, or down about the 158.

The only way to know for sure is to take another PT, but ugh. That drop and experience on PT 82 was bad. So now I"m freaking out that I could run into the same thing on the actual test day.

I'm sure I'm not the only one freaking out. I just needed to vent to people who will understand :/

How many times do you guys read a stimulus before deciding to skip it?

So as many of you know, I went hard leading up to the September test. I took basically every PT from 40-81 leading up to it. I scored lower than expected in September and have since re-evaluated my study habits. I am noticing though that I am remembering a lot of the questions, LG and passages on the test. For example, I went to take PT68 today, and the first RC passage I remembered the entire thing. I took the test 5 months ago, but still knew where to focus in order to get the answers right.

So any ideas on what to do in order to keep things fresh? Obviously I could take PT's in the 30's but for whatever reason I score significantly higher on early PT's than I do on later ones. I want something that might be a little more accurate to test day.

I'm still trying to wrap my head around this question. I originally chose (C) thinking that it would close the gap between premises and conclusion, but realize now that it doesn't address the issue of cost. Can someone please provide a number example and corresponding explanation for (D)? Thanks!!

What is the best way to approach these types of questions? I'm not completely sure how I should think about them.

Hi all! I'm taking the December LSAT, although a bit behind on studying, especially for LGs. Right now, I'm spending basically all my time FP-ing LGs and slowly adding in news ones. But I'm concerned that I won't have exposed myself to enough overall LGs to be able to deploy my skills when faced with new LG scenarios on the test. Do y'all think I should keep doing this or focus more on taking timed sections and new LGs in order to get the best LG score?

Thanks for any/all advice!

Hey guys! If you're taking the LSAT and your account is inconveniently set to expire a few days before the test date, just email me (dillon@7sage.com) and I'll extend your account for free through the December test. (Make sure you include your 7Sage email!)

I can guarantee you that my inbox will fill up with these, so give me time to reply to them all. If your account expires by the time I get to your email, don't worry, I'll reactivate it for you. :)

For those of you who are expiring after, good luck on the LSAT! We here at 7Sage are rooting for you.

Hey folks. I'm planning to apply to Harvard, and I've finished the application and have my letters of recommendation already—two from professors, one from where I worked this summer. One of the letters, however, comes from a professor I've only known for a couple months, but my thesis reader, who I initially thought would be too busy to write me a letter, said that he'd love to write a recommendation, which he would have time to finish by early January. I know his letter will be superlative.

My numbers are not quite there for Harvard—I scored a 170 on the LSAT—so I worry that if I submit now, my letters won't be quite compelling enough to put me over the top. But if I submit later, will it be too late, given that Harvard does rolling admission?

My question here essentially boils down to this: What is the tradeoff between waiting until January and having a much better letter of recommendation vs. applying now with one of my three letters being adequate but not fantastic? How decisive are the letters?

Curious what your thoughts are. What would you do?

Is there a way to restart the Analytics part for prep test 36 to enter my results? Someone it defaulted to saying it was completed and I never had a chance to input my answers. Now, I don't have the analysis on how I did? Any advice? Thanks!

YEAH Y'ALL. What are you doing? I am torn between the top 10 list - chance to be funny, but how funny should I be?! - and making a video, which would be fun but even harder to get "right." Any thoughts?

Hi everyone!

I have been studying since June and took the test in September and scored a 163. My test was not disclosed (Irma makeup) but I felt like I did the worst on the LG because I had a bit of an anxiety attack during the section and had to guess on the entire last game. I have been foolproofing games nonstop (doing at least a section a day) since I received my score. I have also

done the LG curriculum twice. Because of this, I have seen my accuracy go up--I can get minus zero on any section during blind review, and I understand LG patterns/inferences a lot better now--but I have yet to see a significant improvement when it comes to speed. I am still going about two minutes over the target time for the medium/harder games.

If anyone has any personal tips/tricks they used to get faster with games, please share! I am looking to really cut down time in the next 11 days and am really open to any suggestions!!

Thank you so much in advance!

For those getting -0 in LG, would you have any advice for strategies during timed conditions? How did you finally make it to -0 in the whole section? Do you get -0 during timed conditions as well? If so, what do you think it was that finally got you there? When studying, I do a lot of drilling and fool proofing, but I still feel like there are so many points left on the table. Thank you!

One of the lessons I completed had 14 problem sets which I did all in one sitting -- 6 hours later, I was totally drained, very loopy, and a little discouraged.

Do you guys complete every single lesson's problem sets before moving on to the next lesson? Or do you save some for a rainy day?

Hey everyone!

I wanted to hear your advice regarding study plans for the last few days. Honestly, I feel I am a little burned out. I've been studying like crazy for the past 6 months (while working full time). I hit rock bottom about three weeks ago when I went from scoring 164 to 155 in a span of 1 week, and just got like crazy depressed. I've been working on chilling and slowing the pace lately, so that I don't feel burned out by the time of the test, and it has worked so far, I'm scoring once again around the161-163 range (my goal is a 165).

Now, what do you think about not blind reviewing as thoroughly in the next weeks? I feel I am no really going to grasp new concepts in such a short time. So I wanted to take as many PTs as I can instead, to get my mindset ready for the test. My schedule would look something like this: Wednesday full PT77; Friday half PT78; Saturday full PT82; Sunday Drilling LGs; Monday half PT 79 and Wednesday full PT 81. Thursday and Friday I would just chill.

This does not mean I wouldn't BR, but I would definitely do it more selectively. For instance, I'm stuck at -6/-7 on RC since I first started studying, so I wouldn't dedicate that much time to that section. As for LR, I would definitely not spend 20 to 25 minutes thinking about a tough question.

Do you think this is a good approach? If not, what do you recommend?

Thanks in advance!

Hi, this is my first time starting a post here since I prefer to be a silent reader but I've been lost in decision for quite some time. I need help!

I took the LSAT this September after nearly a full year of part-time LSAT studying and got a score that was a bit below my average but within range - 164. I was hoping for a 167 but after getting my worst section, RC, as my experimental in the very first section of the test (it was my most feared scenario), I was slightly drained.

So, I ended up with LSAT score of 164 and GPA of 3.89.

I really want this studying to end but at the same time, I don't want to regret not having taken my chance to get a higher score. But I'm not completely sure I'll be able to score higher. I am registered for the December LSAT and some schools I've already applied to are aware of this. I'm really lost as to what I should do.

Should I retake in two weeks with the hope of hitting my actual average score or just focus on continuing with the applications? Honestly, I've lost my motivation for studying and haven't really been studying for the past few weeks. But do I even have a realistic chance of getting into t14 in the east coast?

Sorry for the ranting and I would really appreciate some advice! :blush:

I was just wondering on average how long it is taking people to get through the core curriculum. I won't be applying to schools this year like I had planned, and wondered how many of you are able to stay on track... or have to keep editing the study schedule like I do! Thanks, Lindsey

Joining in the chorus of people who are gearing up for December 2nd! Here's where I'm at right now:

PT scores 165-167

BR scores 177-180

Average per section around -4 each LR, -3 for LG, and (gulp) -6 to -8 or so in RC.

Obviously RC is my biggest weakness, but don't think I could get significantly better in that during the next 2 weeks. My biggest problem with LG is speed (I rarely answer incorrectly, just run out of time before getting to the last few questions).

Speed is a factor in RC as well, usually hit the 5 minute warning right as I turn the page to the last passage. Also inferring perspective questions, ughhhh. Probably 95% of the RC questions I get wrong (but did have time to answer) were inferring perspective questions.

Thoughts? Drill drill drill LG to try to improve speed? Drill LR to try to push that even a bit higher? Try to tackle RC?

Thanks!

I have tried my debit master card and it said that my card would not support the transaction. I tried my mothers and it was declined? Anyone with similar experience?

Hey everyone,

Short term lurker, first time poster.

I've been self studying for the December LSAT for around 4 months and have progressively worked my way through almost all of the available PTs.

At this point, I've written tests 1-71 and 74. 72 and 73 are being divided up to serve as experimental sections for the remainder of my PTs before the 2nd.

Starting in the 40s, my PTs have consistently ranged between 173-177, with the majority falling in the 174-176 range. A typical distribution would be -3 combined on LR, -0 to -2 on games and -2 on RC.

Unfortunately my last few PTs have taken a bit of a nosedive, with a 171 on PT 71 (-2LR/-5LG/-6RC) and a 168 on PT 74 (-3LR/-3LG/-8RC). The two scores have been my lowest two PTs in ~2 months. I suspect that the combination of stress and fatigue is creeping in. I haven't been sleeping much over the last week, as I'm consistently dreaming about LGs that I've fabricated, but can't solve. It doesn't seem like my mind has been considerate enough to also create a corresponding answer to the questions, so I'm stuck in CBT limbo on an imaginary sequencing or grouping game at 3 AM.

My LR scores have stayed relatively consistent, but my RC scores have taken a major drop on my last two PTs. I've also struggled to complete game sections within 35, whereas in past I was consistently finishing them in 32-33 minutes. The RC sections in the 70s "feel" tougher to me, but I'm also making mistakes that wouldn't have happened previously IMHO.

Long story short, I'd appreciate everyones insight on what I should make of the last couple of PTs. I feel that burnout is contributing, but the major drop is RC was a shock that corresponds with when many people claim that RC sections became tougher.

Thanks for your help.