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Hi,

I took the June test but I will probably need to re-take so I will start studying. Last time I studied from the LSAT Trainer and then signed up for 7sage and watched about 60% of CC. the last month I spent on PT, BR, light drilling. My BR score was in the 173+ range. but my actual PT score was about 20 points lower. My question is: should I purchase another prep material, say PowerScore, or should I focus on PT only. My biggest weakness is RC, English is my second language, and I used to struggle with timing in all sections.

seeking your advice, especially from the re-takers, what was your study strategy? did you do something dramatically different in your prep? and what was the point increase in the actual test between the 2 actual scores?

Thanks,

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Hey 7Sagers, had a user email me in with a question that I thought you'd be great at answering. Here it is:

Hi All,

I need your help urgently! I have been wanting to go to law school for years but was never able to score highly enough on the practice tests. Then I quit my job and decided to take a class and study full time. I picked 7Sage over all the other classes that I researched. I started March 18th and was at 144 on the June 2007 test now that I did the course I have been taking practice tests and I got a 134. I had been hoping to take the June test but decided to push back until September. So many questions for you. 1. Was the 7Sage course a waste of time and money since my score dropped 10 points? 2. What should I do now? Take practice tests and get a tutor to go over it with me? Do any of you tutor? Anyone willing to work with me? Thanks for your help in advance.

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Good day. I've been mulling over in my mind which study course to purchase. I am stuck between purchasing Ultimate or Ultimate+. I am currently off for the summer with a lot of time on my hands. It is my hope to sit for the December LSAT. If necessary, I am able to study for long hours. I am not familiar with the LSAT at all and need some advise. Thank you.

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Last comment tuesday, jun 20 2017

Admissions Cycle

So I'm currently studying for the September LSAT, but wondering if the December one would be too late to take when it comes to the admissions process. Would it be better to take the September LSAT because it is right when the admissions cycle opens up?

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Hey, Everyone,

So, I took my first LSAT in February of this year. I didn't study for the test and lets just say my score reflected it. I am a Junior in college and that means Law School Applications should be going in this Fall. However, I am not sure I will have a score that is good enough to get into the Law School of my choosing. I plan to take the September LSAT, but if I don't like my score I don't want to apply with it. But, if I don't do well on the September LSAT, then I will really have a problem this fall semester. I will be taking 18 credit hours and working around 25-30 hours a week at an attorney's office. That being said, I fear that if September score is a floozy, then I am not going to have time to devote to studying for the December LSAT, which would still give me time to apply before the March deadline passes.

What I am getting at is this: Will it hurt me more than help me to apply next fall instead of this fall, so I could devote all summer next summer preparing for the LSAT, again? Would it be worth it? Or would it do more harm than good?

As of now, I have a pretty strong application. I have a 4.0 GPA at my current college. I have won several awards at Honors Convocation Ceremonies, and I have worked for an attorney's office since freshmen year, all year around. I have also been on Deans List/President's List every semester since entering college.

Any advice would be appreciated!!

Best,

Paigelynn

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Hello,

I just restarted my full length practice after a while, scored a 164 for pt 52 last week and 172 for pt 51 this week (WTH)..I was also sick while doing PT 52 last week but I doubt that is the reason since I only improved 2 points after BR. Should I attribute this to differences in the level of difficulty? How do you guys keep your score consistent?

THANKSSS

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Last comment tuesday, jun 20 2017

June Logic Game...M/S/T

Can I ask what the rules of the game were? I'm trying to recreate the game and do it and see if I got a question right/wrong. No answers, no inferences, just what was stated?

Thx.

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Last comment tuesday, jun 20 2017

Blind Reviewing RC

I'm finally breaking into the score range I want and I know that RC is my biggest challenge and the one sections I'm still a bit inconsistent in. When I'm blind reviewing I've been able to get the right answers (mostly), but I'm not at all able to feel confident in my answer choices. I think it's because I can usually eliminate the wrong answers and not find support for the right answers.

does anyone have any tips or advice?? In specific for finding support for inference question, but just for BRing RC in general!!

best of luck everyone, and any help will be appreciated

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Last comment monday, jun 19 2017

neither nor

If, "neither P nor K are cute", then can you say P+K→/C or do you have to keep them separate??

Lawgical Translations:

P → /C

AND

K → /C

Therefore, P+K→/C ?

Thank you!!!!

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So im definetly taking the December test even though i just took the june one, the goal is start off with prep tests 1 per week till around sept then 2 per week til nov and down to 1 till test day.. BRing during the week before the next week. should i take a two week break or just jump rightback on the settle ?

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Last comment monday, jun 19 2017

Where to start

So for the past month and a half I have been attacking LR and LG extremely hard. I've worked my way down to about -5 in LR and -2 or -3 in LG. I have finally seen a bit of improvement in my score thanks to these two sections. I still have one major mountain to climb however. I am sitting constantly at a -8 or -9 in RC. I would really like to see AT LEAST a 4 point improvement in this section consistently. I just am not quite sure where to start.

According to the analytics here on 7Sage my most missed question types are the Author Inference types. I have never really had tooooo much issue with timing. I'm always in the last passage when they announce the 5min mark. I would like to get some what faster, but I think accuracy is something I'm more concerned with. However with LR and LG I was able to see a clear way to attack my weak spots and make improvements. In RC I'm not as clear about how to go into the questions.

I have 7Sage and the RC Bible as well as the LSAT Trainer. Each has helped a little, but I would like maybe some more specific advice on how to lower my missed question count here.

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Hey everyone,

I just wanted to share a great book I came across called "How to Lie with Statistics" by Darrell Huff (it's an old classic)

https://www.amazon.ca/How-Lie-Statistics-Darrell-Huff/dp/0393310728

If you are like me and numbers aren't your strongest suit, this book is a life saver. It's short and easy to read (you could whip through it in a day) and will help you a lot with questions on the LSAT that have to do with finding statistical errors or finding problems with uses of averages, which is where I found I had some weaknesses. Highly recommend.

Here is the overview:

"Darrell Huff runs the gamut of every popularly used type of statistic, probes such things as the sample study, the tabulation method, the interview technique, or the way the results are derived from the figures, and points out the countless number of dodges which are used to fool rather than to inform."

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Hi everyone,

I just started the logic games curriculum and I'm so confused. I under stand the basic principles of diagramming and the rules, but I look at the questions and I just don't know what the first step it, or any step is. Any help would be great!

Thanks!

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Law school admissions have personal statements you must complete to apply. However, many have different requirements such as "2-5 pages" or "250 word max," so I am assuming you cant really write a generic one because it might violate those directions (for example 250 word max is about a page). A lot of schools I have looked up dont seem to have any directions or even mention personal statement on their law admissions page (WashU for example). Where do you find out the specific directions for the personal statement?

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Hello all!

I finished the CC from the starter 7Sage prep and did a 1 PT, then I upgraded to the Ultimate+ and I am wondering if I should go back and finish the drills/problem sets from the CC that I now have access to because I upgraded to the Ultimate+ or if I should continue doing PT's?

Thank you for the help :)

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The first time I heard the world LSAT I was watching Suits and I thought come on Mike how difficult it can be. Fast forward a year and I was just done with my diagnostic PT and it was a 148. My first thought was, LSAT is pretty hard. It was so hard that I gave it up for a month to reassessed my life plan and at the end of it I registered for December 2015 test and decided I gonna study LSAT full-time for couple of months and get a 160 which would get me into a decent Law School.

So, I borrowed a Kaplan LSAT book from library and finished it after a month by going to library from 08:00 am to 04:30 pm five days a week. Turned out it was the worse decision that I made during my prep because after finishing the book and taking another PT I got 149. My first thought was it must be the book so I bought power score books and finished them in one month by studying 08:00 am to 04:30 pm seven days a week.

During the same time I was watching YouTube videos about LSAT as break. YouTube being YouTube suggested a lot of LSAT related videos including 7Sage LG videos. I was afraid to take another PT so I printed out all the games from PT1-35 and sort them out based on the game type and did them under timed condition and watched J.Y. explanation for each of them afterward. By this time it was a week before December test I took PT 70 and I only got 152 and realized I will not get a 160 on December test and ended up withdrawing from the test. At that point I decided if I am going to do this I gonna do it right.

So I searched for an in person LSAT course but luckily there was none in my city, which forced me to signed up with an online company. I chose 7Sage one week free trial course, because I had not tried this one yet, bought and read most of LSAT Trainer as well as BRing the three PT that I took in two to three weeks. The free trial course was decent enough so I bought the Ultimate package and went through the core curriculum in three months. During this time, I was studying 07:30 am to 08:30 pm seven days a week. I made a mistake please do not study more that 6-7 hours, I burnt out two or three times and lost around 44 lb unnecessarily. The next step in my prep was fool-proofing all the LG games from PT 1-35 and attending all the webinars by different Sages. Needless to say, I postponed more than once, the more I learned about LSAT the less ready I felt.

The last phase of my prep took more than five months and consisted of taking 32 full-timed PTs and a lot of individual sections. Every PT that I took I made sure to BR it thoroughly on my own and then attend the BR call for it before scoring it. I progressively improved but when I reached 167 I stuck there and I could not go higher, I got a 171 once but it was mostly luck. I reached out to 7Sage community and got help from mentors like @twssmith , @Sami and @nessa.k13.0. I am glad that I got @"Cant Get Right" as my tutor to advise me and go through difficult questions and my PT recordings with me to point out my mistakes a month before the test.

The highest score that I got on a PT was a 172. On the actual test, I managed to get a 173. Thank you 7Sage for helping me increase my score from 148 to 173.

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Last comment monday, jun 19 2017

Study Plan Suggestions

Hi,

I was wondering if anyone would have any ideas/suggestions for study plans in preparing for the September exam. I have gone through the CC and have been taking PT's but am looking for new ideas.

Thanks!

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Last comment sunday, jun 18 2017

Application Supplements

Hi guys,

Can someone give me a complete outline of all the typical supplements required or optional for the T20 schools?

So far I know...

  • Yale 250 essay
  • Georgetown: essay, video, picture etc
  • But I am sure there are more. Also, when are the applications accessible on LSAC?

    Thank you!

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    Does anyone have any advice on staying motivated while working full time. I try to do 3-4 hours every day after work, but some days I am just so exhausted.

    I started studying in March, and was planning on taking in June, but I pushed it back to September because I didn't feel ready.

    Any advice would be greatly appreciated :)

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    Last comment sunday, jun 18 2017

    Yale 250 Topic

    Hello friends. So now that the LSAT is behind me, I'm starting to think ahead to all things admissions. I'm hoping to have scored well enough to give HYC a shot (nothing against Stanford in particular; I just don't want to live in CA). As I'm sure many of you are familiar, Yale requires the infamous "Yale 250" essay. I've read through the Yale 250 part of the CC, but I still have a few questions about it.

    Is it always best to tell a story or would more of an abstract argument do, so long as it is not too political in nature?

    Does third vs. first person perspective matter much? Is one preferred?

    I've published a paper in a philosophy journal... Would it be an okay idea to pick out an approximately 250 word section of that paper and format it more specifically to the Yale 250 requirements? Or should I start from scratch with a new topic idea?

    Any comments are welcomed!

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