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Dear all,

The question video is here: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-27-section-4-question-23/

And my question relates with the word "promising".

From the analysis of the paragraph, the context doesn't give anything of significance. Likewise, the word "promising" too.

But during exam, and under pressure, how do you exactly interpret the word: promising?

If X is promising then X must be good compared to the general sample right?

Please let me know your thoughts and much appreciated.

Thanks,

Panda

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Does anyone have any comments about Blueprint RC, The LSAT Trainer or Fox Logical Reasoning books? How many books do we have to buy for prep to score high? There are a lot of LSAT books and study courses on the market. What is the best approach to prepare for this exam?

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First off, congratulations on your score for the September LSAT!

I have seen a lot of rejoice and I have seen a lot of heartbreak today. For those of you who scored at or above your desired score, the stress is over, you are going to law school! For those of you who scored below, take a deep breath and relax. Some of you may have been aiming for the 160's and ended up in the 150's but guess what? This isn't a death blow! There are PLENTY of schools that take students in the 155, 3.0 range and those are good schools! Remember, this isn't considered to be a very strong year for applications. Unless, you scored in the 140's, you will find a place somewhere. Also, do you know why the T14 is so romanticized? The perceived benefit mainly revolves around the alumni base these schools have but guess what? Every school has alumni that are well off. Learning to network is key and graduating in the t10 at a 2nd or 3rd tier school will attract some of the best firms around. Take your future into your own hands, you will be okay! Remember that there is more to life than this exam! Once again, congratulations to all!

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I got a 160 on the September LSAT. I was PTing at 160-163 range, so it’s about what I expected to get.

My one and only dream school is/was Univeristy of Washington, Seattle that has the median LSAT of 164. Benefits of attending UW are in-state tuition, familiarity with the environment (I went to undergraduate there), and the fact that it’s the most renowned law school in the Pacific NW.

I feel so out of shape due to the 3 week break and I feel like I do not have enough strength/motivation left of me to study further for the December retake and get that median 164.. I’m registered for it though…

Is it worth it to go to law school with a 160 LSAT score, presumably paying out-out-state tuition at a 40-50th law school? Should I go to 111th law school in my region with some scholarships? Can I even get a job securely with that option?

If it helps I have a decent GPA of 3.75 and I’m not a URM.

It’s just so damn stressful to even think about getting back to studying at this point..... I simply despise the LSAT right now.. But if you guys suggest that retaking is truly a more valuable option, I will probably try.. Only 40ish days left until the December test.. OMG…. HELP ME PLEASE..

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Hi, I am a senior student applying for this cycle.

I am currently a dual citizen of US and South Korea. I will be graduating from a college in South Korea.

I believe my overall stat will be

superior(yet to be determined by LSAC)/170(September2016).

I know general wisdom for international applicants (students with non-US/Canadian GPA) is to apply in accordance with median LSAT scores and to expect good chances only when the LSAT score is above the median.

Here are my questions

1. Despite my citizenship, will my application be reviewed in the international applicant pool?

2. If so, should I apply and expect chances of receiving admission from schools with the median LSAT score that is the same or below 170? I hope that I have a shot at CCN...

Thanks in advance!

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I had been doing practice tests consistently prior to finishing the core curriculum. My diagnostic was "150". Since then, I have scored 155, 157, 154, and 157. Today, after finally finishing the core curriculum I took my first practice test and scored a measly 152. However, my blind review score was 163. While Logical reasoning is typically my strongest section(-4/-5), this time I performed very weakly as there was a bunch of questions in which the timer went off before I was able to answer. I personally think its because for a couple of weeks I hadn't been looking at any of the logical reasoning stuff as I was focusing on logic games which is typically my weakest section. I actually performed better on logical games that I usually do missing ten questions. While this is overall very low, it is an improvement for me. Is this a case of working to improve on my strength which is logical reasoning? I have roughly two months until I take the lsat in december. I have access to every lsat prep test ever made. What study routine do you think could help me achieve optimal performance?

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Sorry if it's too soon and you're still drinking heavily! I am really really confused about Section 1 Logical Reasoning Q21, the one about Alzheimers. Can anyone explain why it's E? I put D in both the actual LSAT and in my retaking and in my BR so I'm stumped.

Also, for Q10 on the passage of sunlight in Earth's atmosphere, I thought D would work since it blocks the possibility that there is an alternate heat source which would render ice and snow reflecting heat ineffective, thus stengthening the argument. But the answer is C, which I considered but eventually chose D. Any thoughts?

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LoRs for Old People

So I finished undergrad in ’08, which by the way was a really shitty time to graduate, lol. Anyway. So I haven’t worked with my professors in a long long time and I’m not sure how valuable those letters would be. I also feel a little uncomfortable asking someone to vouch for me who I haven’t worked with for the better part of a decade. At best, all those letters can truthfully say is, “he was a great student ten years ago." I can get great professional letters all day long, but I’ve been doing the same work since I graduated and it’s nothing so impressive that I want multiples. So, I’m really not sure what to do.

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Date of exam: 9/24/16

Proctors:

I think I drew the short straw and had to sit in the front row where the proctors were pacing back and forth -- it was extremely distracting. I'm pretty certain that they were not pacing through the other rows behind me because there wasn't enough space between rows. There was also another proctor sitting on the Professors desk at the front swinging her legs, like she was really bored to be there, extremely annoying and distracting.

They did a good job keeping time. There was also a big clock in the room that you could go by.

Facilities:

Modern building downtown. You had to go up elevators to get to the classrooms. Toilets located just opposite the rooms.

What kind of room:

Large, tiered-row seating. Looked like it could seat about 50. Each row was divided into three sections, one larger middle section and two smaller wings. Seats were adjustable which was very helpful! Bright, well lit room.

How many in the room:

I think every person in Texas decided to take their lsat at A&M, there were three classes with about 30 people in each class, and there were 3 different classrooms. There was one space between you and the person next to you, I felt like it could've been a little more, but it was enough as to not be distracted.

Desks:

Tables were the long joined ones and you were seated with one space between you and the other test taker.

Left-handed accommodation:

Yes.

Noise levels:

Quiet. (Except for the person with the cold who wouldn't stop sniffling).

Parking:

Plenty. Right across from the school there were huge parking lots. And also available on the street.

Time elapsed from arrival to test:

Too long in my opinion. It was almost an hour from check in until we received instructions. Part of that would've been because there were so many people that they needed to process. I do think they still let people in after 8:30AM. We were left in the room with awkward silence waiting for what felt like an eternity for everyone to come in.

Irregularities or mishaps:

Felt as though they took way too long to get started on the exam. The proctors were very thorough with the check-in process, really looked through your ziplock bag and made sure there was nothing that shouldn't have been in there -- that may have added to the delay.

Would you take the test here again?

Not sure. I'm really tempted to try another test center, there is one in Arlington which is about 20 minutes away. However, I think their facilities are a little more outdated. The adjustable chairs are a big factor for me -- you didn't need to be too far hunched over if you're taller.

And I'm really banking on not being seated right at the front. That was extremely distracting for me with the proctors pacing and looking down at you constantly. And the other proctor sitting at the front swinging her legs like she was really bored to be there.

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need help!

Hey guys! This is my first time posting here I've been watching the game videos for awhile now but just signed up for the course. So happy I did! This community is amazing! So have few questions. 1. I've been studying on and off now for good few months now and I'm planning on taking December my first diagnostic I got a 149 and since then my top score has been a 157 that was about 2-3 months ago. When I do untimed LR I usually 1-2 wrong timed like 4-6 . My LG is where i was lacking a lot been drilling that a lot and definitely getting better (especially bec of the videos) and my RC untimed usually pretty good but timed I'm in trouble. So my question is how should I go about studying the next month and a half. And specifically how should I be studying for the LG and also how does the BR work for the LG. Thanks so much!!

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    My reach schools were Columbia/NYU

    My target schools were Michigan/Berkeley/Duke/Austin

    I'd apply Mid November.

    I'm already registered for the December retake.

    My softs are okay & work experience

    My last 10 PT average was ~169 with two low 160's days before the test. I definitely suffered from nervousness as over half the questions I missed were in the first 10 of each section.

    I'm leaning towards waiting another year to save on app money. I'd use that saved money to purchase the admissions package for PS writing.

    I appreciate any advice or insight. Thank you.

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    Hey Gang,

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    And if you’d like to see the full schedule for upcoming reviews, here it is: https://calendar.google.com/calendar/embed?src=h14k4idvt1lb4hp5ujds97qt7k@group.calendar.google.com&ctz=America/New_York

    Note:

  • For everyone: take the PT under timed conditions; BR as you are able on your own; then join us for all or part of the call—everyone is welcome.
  • Note: For the purposes of the call, we like to check our group blind review score together at the very end of the call :) So at least don't say ... "No guys, really, it's D, I checked it.” KEEP THE CORRECT ANSWER TO YOURSELF. Win the argument with your reasoning.
  • These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).
  • The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via GoToMeeting and intellectually slaughter each test.
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    Hey everyone, pretty new to the application process and thought you all could help with my question. I am currently towards the GPA 25th percentile (3.45) and the median LSAT (164) for my target/reach schools. I have been working for a few years now, and I think I have time to study hard for the December LSAT to boost my score a few more points. However, I know applications are reviewed on a rolling basis and would prefer to submit my application as soon as possible.

    Is it recommended to apply after I have received my December scores, before I receive my December scores or just go with what I currently have?

    Any input would be a huge help, thanks!

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    Looking for some advice. I was averaging about a 168 with a high of 172 and BR scores around 175 in the PT 30-40's. When I started on the 70's about a month before the September test my average and BR dropped to about a 162 and 170 respectively. I just received my score and was disappointed to learn that I got a 159. I am set on applying this cycle and have been studying since March (diagnostic of 151 if it matters) of last year. I am looking for advice about what my game plan should be between now and December in order to ensure that I am not disappointed next time around. In addition, is it worth applying with a 159 even with a note that I'm retaking?

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    Thank you 7 Sage community!

    My sincerest thanks to YJ, the mentors and the general 7 Sage community. I hit my target score of 170 and hope that everyone else did as well or better than they had hoped. Goodbye forever!

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    Hi all!

    One of the schools that I'm applying to asks specifically for applicants to answer how they see themselves using their law degree in the future. The other part of the question is why you're interested in pursuing a legal education which I feel I've answered well but I'm more worried about the first part.

    I don't necessarily have specific areas of law that I'm interested in pursuing at the moment. There are a number that I'm interested in but I'm really hoping to get some concrete goals when I'm actually in law school and see more realistically what that kind of work would entail. My worry is articulating this in my PS without seeming like I'm completely directionless. One thing I'm thinking of mentioning is that I'm interested in law with an element of dispute resolution and arbitration which ties in with my background but I'm not sure if this is specific enough. Should I mention a specific area that interests me (e.g. aboriginal law) or is there a way that I can say I don't really know exactly yet where I'm headed? Hopefully this worry makes sense but if not, I'm happy to clarify anything that's unclear. Thanks so much for your help! I really appreciate any insight :)

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    Should I retake?

    I got one point above my highest PT score, so I am actually really happy! However, I am 2 points away from being in my top school's 75th percentile. With my GPA I am currently in between 50-75 percentile. I honestly do not want to retake, but I would also like in state tuition for this school. Will 2 points be a big deciding factor?

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    PT79 The Virus Game

    I'd like to share my method I used for this game. I thought this game fell into the category of "sounds weird and looks weird, but is actually simple". This seems to be a pattern seen in the 4th game of many 70s.

    A very simple way to look at this game would be to think of it as a sequencing game.

    Ex. If it says A transferred to B, I would diagram it as A-B

    If says A transferred it to 2 other computers, then I would think of the diagram as A connected to exactly 2 lines on the right.

    For the rule "S transmitted...", I would have S with exactly ONE letter connected to the right (ie S-__). Also note, I could have something connected to the __ because that wouldn't be connected to S.

    For the rule "..to R also .. S", this would be diagrammed as __-R with that same "__" connected as __-S. That should look like __ with 2 things to the right of it (those 2 things being R and S). Now combine this rule with the previous rule about S and your result should look like __ connected to R and connected to S. And S connected to exactly one other thing (don't know what yet).

    At this point you might want to think about what could be the first __ that transfers a virus to R and S. Our remaining letters are P,Q,T,U. As for what S will transfer to will also be one of those 4 letters (at this point). Please also remember that each letter can only receive the virus once, meaning there is at most only one letter directly connected to left of a given letter.

    Finally, we find out either R or T transmits to Q and either T or U transmits to P. This gives us a lot of information because now we can start to figure out what goes in each blank. By simply placing 1 letter that transfers to both R and S, almost everything else will trigger and fall into place.

    I hope this helps simplify the virus game. If you're still a little confused, I can go into more details and break everything down.

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    So I am retaking my LSAT in December and I just need to improve my LR. I am going through powerscore books and re-learning each question type because I didn't really study LR by question type last time. So I am reading the chapter for example right now on Must be True/Most Strongly Supported which I think some people call inference questions, and then practicing a ton of questions in that category, then once I am answering with good accuracy I will move on to next question type. Then I plan to take a practice test. My worst section is technically reading comp so I every day I will do one practice passage to try and improve that and mix in logic games here and there but thats my best section. Does this sound like a solid plan/does anyone have further advice for improving LR? Bear in mind that I can't afford any more books or programs, I wish I could because I would def do 7sage but that retake cost killed me.

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    hey guys so I wrote for the first time in September.

    I was averaging at 153-157 in my practice test. my last practice test i wrote 3 days before the actual test I got a 157.

    my diagnostic was a 142. but by September I did about 6 practice test and never hit the 140s once.

    I was so happy with my improvement. With my gpa (3.8) I know a mid to high one 150s would make me very competitive in Canadian schools like Ottawa and Windsor.

    and on test day...... I got a 149. I was shattered. I was expecting tleast a 150 something.

    I struggle a lot with depression and anxiety so this has been a difficult process for me.

    My goal is a 157. do you think is possible to achieve that in December

    No I don't want to study for 2 years and write later,

    any positive suggestions will be great.

    I killed arguments, did okay on games. it was reading comp that killed me I only got 8 correct in that section (the worst ive ever done)

    In serious need of prep talk.

    thanks,

    a sad Scorer

    I am already registered to write in

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    Hi folks:

    Here's a long question but it seems like a lot of smart people weigh in here and I wanted to provide the data.

    I took the Sept LSAT. Got a 167. I took despite all warnings re: "wait until you're -0 or -1 on LGs, wait until you've peaked on PTs" - I needed to have something concrete in front of me to keep working on this decision. I self-studied from the Trainer, the PS LR bible, and the 7sage LG videos. This was up 10 pts from my diagnostic and to be honest I only really studied from early August on so a short (but very intense) run. I went -6 LR overall, -3 RC (that Mesolithic one really got me; I've been PTing a steady -0), -6 LG (ran out of time/the viruses got me). Of the LR I missed, 2 were MSS, 2 were RA, two were "what does this piece do in this argument" (one comparative, one on its own). Clearly, there are some fundamentals to be polished. I was PTing around 170 and doing more like -1 or -2 on LR for timed sections and it was the MSS/RAs giving me the most trouble along with being slow on games.

    I am leaning towards retake because I am frustrated at these errors and frustrated that I am so close to being eligible for these top schools but not quite there. I am excited by the flexibility, options, and access they get me (like everyone else). I worry that if I cram for December I won't see the gains I would if I wait for February or June and do this all next year. I also worry that waiting for a December LSAT and applying then makes me too late w/my GPA and that I wouldn't see a big enough increase - but then conversely, Everyone Says that if that increased score is a 170+, it is ok to be late. I'm an older student with an Interesting History, a splitter (3.63 LSAC), and I get the impression that I will be taken as a little bit of an anomaly generally speaking.

    Given this, what do you think? I am in a moment where I actually have the time to study 20-25 hours/week or so and there are so many reasons this is the moment for a big change in my life but I am 100% buying the romance of "your whole life will be different at HYCCCN" and would hate to close doors just because I am impatient. Wait? Cram? Sit it in December and if the score isn't there, chill out a minute and plan for June?

    Thanks a million in advance.

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