For those of you that sent in documentation requesting accommodations did you get a decision in line with the 14 day deadline? Is it normal for LSAC to go over 14 days because I am hearing from others that submitted weeks ago that they haven't gotten any news. I am still waiting to hear back and despite repeated calls and emails to follow-up I have gotten ZERO clarity on a decision or when it will be made.

Fellow 7Sagers,

I have not struggled with an LG section in such a long time. I just retook the LG section from PT 57 (Which I did first time around so long ago), and I struggled with the time allotted. I am used to finishing LG in 25-30 minutes at most. I am wondering whether it was the product of me just feeling tired today, or is the section more difficult than average? I found the section a bit more difficult than the usual.

All input is much appreciated.

Hello, I'm wondering, what and how should we study in this last month? Just reviewing?

Suppose we can devote full-time for studying...what would be the best way to use those time for prep for LSAT?

Thanks,

If anyone on here speaks Spanish, would you please help me translate this to English and then lawgic:

"Cuando el orden es injusto, el desórden es un comienzo de justicia."

I think it would be: "When order is unjust, disorder gives way to justice."

If that's the proper translation from Spanish to English, I am confused on how to translate it into Lawgic.

Ok so I'm doing my blind review, and when I initially did the test I chose the correct answer even though I wasn't happy with it because it seemed more like a sufficient assumption to me. I don't have the ultimate package so I don't have the explanation for this so if someone could help me out that would be much appreciated.

When I read this question I immediately found the gap between choose more wisely and emotions unchanged

I was hoping for an answer that bridged the gap ever so slightly without being obnoxious and of course E bridged that gap but the only if really annoyed me

I interpreted E as an SA in my BR because I diagrammed the following:

human emotions unchanged --> humans unable to choose more wisely

contrapositive: humans able to choose more wisely --> humans emotions have changed

This is precisely what E does and so I went with D thinking it was a little better (now I see why it fails)

I guess D when put to the negation test says something along the lines of "humans do not always choose on the basis of their emotions" and in the conclusion it says: "humans are GENERALLY unable to choose more wisely" so the not always wouldn't really be good enough because the conclusion isn't always saying that it's the case that people do not choose more wisely today, it just needs to be true in at least one case.

When E was put to the negation test it seems like it would be something similar to: it's not the case that humans would now be able to make wiser choices than in centuries past only if an essential change had taken place in their emotions, so we can choose wisely without a change in emotions

Overall, really annoyed by this question...would appreciate any input/feedback on what I mentioned above

Thanks!

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-72-section-2-question-12/

Edit&additional questions:

Let me change the title and ask a bit different question since it seems we can only post 2 threads per day...

for RC, do you think reading questions first would help me to understand what passage would say better?

Especially for those hard passages...

I know ppl recommend not reading questions first, but I'm terribly weak at hard RC...would it be helpful?

Original post:

Hi, this may sound a little weird question, but...

Which makes you comprehend the reading better, read it faster or slower?

Especially for those hard questions and passages in LR and RC...

I found sometimes even though I decrease the speed to understand better, it sometimes makes me even more confusing when I read slow. (and sometimes it's the same) But sometimes reading slower works better...

So I was wondering how others read...when you do not understand something in the passage, do you decrease your speed?

Or push reading?

Thanks

How do I get the LSAT Trainer in PDF format does anybody know?

Do you think there will be a really hard LG this time around like there was for Sept 2016 (the computer virus game)?

Hello 7sagers, do any of you guys have any tips on how to improve LG timing? I'm always pushing the 35 minute mark if not going over it. I'm honestly not sure if I'm diagramming too much or if I'm just moving to slow. I have the games pretty much down its just the timing issues I'm struggling with. Thanks for reading

So on page 180 (the irony) of the trainer, the last question of the second scenario brings up an interesting point. The scenario is sequencing with in out and the last question of the drill says "If N is performed before M, P will be performed before Q." Where only 5 elements are to be selected, does this mean that N-M guarantees that both P and Q are in? Or if one of P or Q are out, is the necessary still satisfied?

I know this is completely hypothetical and is supposed to be a drill. But I'm not sure if something similar will come up on an actual exam. Sorry if this is a silly question!

Hi friends!

So i've been working way through the curriculum and LR is my worst by far. I am actually alright in the other two areas. I just want to know, what can I do to gain fluency in LR? Just drill? I try going over the core curriculum, but I find myself not really gaining anything from it.. It's not a specific question type either, like some MBT I'll be okay on and some I'll just end up missing five in a row. I'm not sure what to do to make LR a strength for me? Do y'all know of any resources or books that I could get and work through? I haven't used anything but 7sage.

i was wondering if you guys know how the testing will differ from normal testing. i received an email yesterday from lsac with the following:

"We have determined that you are currently eligible for the following accommodations on the December 3, 2016 LSAT:

50% Additional Test time on all sections of the test as follows:

Section 1 53 minutes total

Section 2 53 minutes total

Section 3 53 minutes total

Section 4 53 minutes total

Section 5 53 minutes total

Writing Sample 35 minutes total

Break time as follows:

After Section 1 10 minutes total

After Section 2 10 minutes total

After Section 3 15 minutes total standard break

After Section 4 10 minutes total

After Section 5 10 minutes total

....."

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i replied back to their email saying that i accept the accommodations i am eligible for and hope to hear back with knowledge that i have been fully approved. hopefully i hear back from them this week with a full confirmation.

How does it go on from here though. i would assume that the test will start on the same day and time like everyone else but would i be placed in a different room from everyone else and/or given a different test? the lsac website isnt really clear on this. if i was to finish my section before the time limit for each section (after reviewing and checking my answers of course) would i be allowed to tell the proctor that i finished and be able to move on to the next section?

Also for those who are writing theirs under accommodated conditions or have done it in the past, how did you change/adjust your study approach to the lsat. seeing how i am just finding out now i have only a month left to work under the new timed conditions for myself so any advice/tips/tricks on how to approach the lsat during test time would be gladly appreciated :)

Hello everyone,

I've been studying for this test for the entirety of this year and have moved from a 142 Diagnostic into the 156-159 range. However my BR scores have gone from the mid 160s into the 172-177 range without any movement in my actual score in months. My weakness used to be LG but recently has shifted to RC but I have an overarching timing problem and never finish with time to spare and often have to guess on entire passages/games.

The December test is probably not going to be enough time to fix my issues so I was looking for some advice is bridging this gap. My BR scores are promising but it's so discouraging to continuously crank out scores in the 150s knowing my potential is much higher.

Hi,

So I was doing LG today and met this substitution question...

In sequence games or games you combine rules do you combine rules as you read new rules or you write them separately so when you have this question you can easily notice which rule is substituted?

I was doing PT 73 game 2 and the last question, and I was not sure between B and E because both seem true :(

Hey guys, so I started studying around June and have been going pretty consistently for about 4+ hours a day since then and I've noticed that I sometimes some neck pains that get pretty bad and result in me having to just stop studying all together for that day. Do things like that happen to you guys after a while of studying? Do you get any kind of physical pain after a lot of studying or is it just me?

For those getting consistently - 0 in LG, how do you guys do in timing?

Do you usually have bunch of time left after doing all 4 games? or do you need full 34 min (excluding 1min for bubbling)?

Hi guys,

do you guys notice any trends in your PT scores from 60s to 70s in different sections?

Hi all,

The logic game section has been the hardest section for me. As soon as I realized LG kept me from reaching 170+, I have been drilling TONs of games for the past several months. I've done drilling every single game from 1-40 for 6 times + almost all sections in 40s, all sections in 50s, and some sections in 60s (I guess that's about 1500 games). I also analyzed my mistakes by creating review notes.

So now I can finish any game and usually have 5-6minutes left after filling in the bubbles. But the problem is I constantly miss 3-4 questions... The worst part is that the questions that I miss are those that I answered with great confidence. I've thought about redoing questions after finishing the section but I think it's a very risky strategy since I can't expect I would have 5-6minutes left on the test day. Also, because I am certain that I have answered all questions correctly, I don't even know which questions I want to re-do and check my work...I have only one month left till the test day and it's really frustrating...

Does anyone have advice...?

Thanks so much!!!

Hey guys I'm having a hard time with this one

For anyone who is willing to try it out can you show me how you diagrammed it and came to choosing A over the others.

Thanks in advance!!

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-63-section-3-question-22/

For this question, I was able to see that the flaw was a equivocation between a substantial budget and an adequate one. Answer choice E seemed to reflect that train of thought, but I didn't find the wording to be clear. In particular, the answer choice mentions that the meaning of "adequate" needs to be reevaluated in the new context. Wasn't the word adequate brought up only in the conclusion? Where has the stimulus evaluated the use of adequate prior to the conclusion? Additionally, would the "new context" be the during the dissolving of the Soviet threat of confrontation?

Hi,

When you do LG do you always have complete, perfect diagram like JY's?

I found I often have diagrams that are incomplete...very similar to JY's but did not have enough inference or did not divide into sub game boards etc.

Does this happen to you or am I just not mature enough on LG yet?

Thanks

Who is going to the LSAC forum in LA this Saturday? Here are the details:

Saturday, November 5, 2016

9:00 am–4:00 pm: Workshops

11:00 am–4:00 pm: Meet with Law Schools

The Westin Bonaventure Hotel

404 South Figueroa Street

Los Angeles, CA 90071

To register, http://www.lsac.org/2016forums/city/los-angeles.html

It’d be a great opportunity for 7Sagers to meet in person. Maybe we can all meet for lunch at one of these places nearby?

Cilantro Lime

934 Los Angeles St, Suite 2

(0.9 miles)

Angry Chef Grill

404 S. Figueroa St, Suite 417

(0.02 miles)

I’ll be the bald 40 year old guy in a sweater vest.

Hope to see you there!

Hey! I am currently working on my personal statement and would love some feedback. I am also more than happy to take a look at yours too and do a little switcha-roo!

Am I the only one who from time to time wishes it could just be a research paper....lol

What is the consensus on talking about things not explicitly mentioned in your application? In a discussion about social justice, I have a sentence that goes something along the lines of:

"... I have always been inclined to help when I can. For instance, I spent a year as an ****** at *******, I have grown up serving food at ******, and I have helped organize a demonstration on campus to...."

I have listed the first under the extra-curricular section of my application, but the other two have not been mentioned because (a) I don't have a contact for the second one because I don't go on a consistent basis, and (b) there is not a relevant place for me to mention the third one. Should I just leave these two out, or are they worth keeping in there? If it helps, it is part of a larger discussion about why I want to be a lawyer, and less about listing off my accomplishments.

For this particular problem, I wasn't able to clearly articulate why answer choice C was incorrect. I interpreted the conclusion to be a causal one, specifically one that claims that the author's political party is responsible for the decrease in unemployment. I do see how the premises contradict the observation that unemployment decreased, but I'm not sure why answer choice C is incorrect. I saw answer choice C as providing an alternate cause and showed how the perceived changes in employment is not due to the author's party but rather seasonal fluctuations.